[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/Hatches or add restore tool

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Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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--- Comment #9 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
The context menus still here in

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/Hatches or add restore tool

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--- Comment #7 from Thomas Lendo  ---
(In reply to andreas_k from comment #6)
> I don't see the point if an user want to delete an default (system
> installed) preset.
> 
> If you want to delete an preset there is an additional dialog which ask if
> you really want to delete the preset. So from my point of view it's not
> possible that an user will delete something by mistake cause there is this
> additional dialog.
Question dialogs never make something really safe. I don't know anybody
(including me) who hasn't ever not read the dialog warning text or accidentally
clicked at OK in such dialogs. :)

My point is that if you give the user the power to modify single factory
settings, the user should be able to restore this stage without discarding the
whole user profile at once. This is good usability for me.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/Hatches or add restore tool

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andreas_k  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from andreas_k  ---
I don't see the point if an user want to delete an default (system installed)
preset.

If you want to delete an preset there is an additional dialog which ask if you
really want to delete the preset. So from my point of view it's not possible
that an user will delete something by mistake cause there is this additional
dialog.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/Hatches or add restore tool

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/Hatches or add restore tool

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|difficultyInteresting,  |
   |easyHack, needsDevEval, |
   |skillCpp|

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/Hatches or add restore tool

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Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86349
[Bug 86349] [META] Context menu bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/Hatches or add restore tool

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyInteresting,
   ||easyHack, needsDevEval,
   ||skillCpp
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |mentoring@documentfoundatio
   |.freedesktop.org|n.org,
   ||tietze.he...@gmail.com

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Issue is a bit worse as renamed title is not stored. But saving a document
takes the current name. So we should disable renaming of inbuilt artwork.

Maybe an easyhack

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/ Hatches or add restore tool

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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #3)
> For option 1 (my preferred option): Was there an intention why it is
> possible to delete or change the default sets?

Don't recall an intentional decision. The mockups contain a big add and a small
trash button, rename was not taken into consideration at this time. Reason was
that users should be able to create own presets and manipulate what we ship by
default. The typical workflow for Benjamin is that he just selects what is in
the left list.

The question is not only restricted to this feature but also to what comes next
(having bullets and numbering in mind). Do we want to add a function to restore
factory settings? And what does that mean: a) full restore, where modifications
to factory presets are completely undone and also user defined presets deleted,
b) "half" restore which affects factory presets only, and c) "specific" restore
what is selected. I would understand "factory reset" as a) but the function
should be c). In any case it has to be clear for the user. And feasible to
implement without too much effort.

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--- Comment #3 from Thomas Lendo  ---
For all options except 1: From my point of view as a user, how can I undo a
change in default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/Hatches? Maybe a change was a
mistake, what can I do? The safe mode (a possible solution) would never come
into my mind for that.

For option 1 (my preferred option): Was there an intention why it is possible
to delete or change the default sets?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/ Hatches or add restore tool

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Option 1: I could life with that.
Option 2: Sounds like an overkill. If we restore factory settings that should
be done rather in the safe mode dialog but not at the various places where
users in most cases intentionally tweak the configuration.

Option 3: Color is an exception and we keep all as it is.
Option 4a: Color names can be changed for predefined palettes.
Option 4b: Color names and values can be changed for predefined palettes.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106571] Remove context menu for default Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/ Hatches or add restore tool

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Thomas Lendo  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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 Blocks||103223
Summary|No context menu for default |Remove context menu for
   |Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/ |default
   |Hatches |Gradients/Bitmaps/Patterns/
   ||Hatches or add restore tool

--- Comment #1 from Thomas Lendo  ---
Change bug title and add meta bug (hope it's the right one).


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103223
[Bug 103223] [META] Area fill tab bugs and enhancements
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