[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #107 from JeffD --- (In reply to Michael Meeks from comment #100) > AFAICS the griping about LibreOffice being a volunteer project in the bug is > counter-productive when it comes to interesting volunteer developers in > fixing it - also by now this bug is far too long to read in any tractable > time for a volunteer. I would suggest that we close this bug, and create a > series of new issues. > > Ultimately - I'm fairly convinced that Microsoft's new / DirectWrite > rendering is a performance horror, and that by far the best approach would > be to go to freetype-everywhere. Unfortuantely that is a chunk of work, and > leaves us with some serious printing problems - Windows not providing any > sensible print / output API unfortunately such as eg. PDF (and XPS hardly > counts). AFAICS, the "griping" was not about LO being a volunteer project, but about the quality of the software. And as for the "griping" being "counter-productive", it appears that the problem would never have been taken at all seriously otherwise. But now, after over a year and a half there is at least a workaround, even as other regressions have been as much as promised. But I'll try to leave it alone now, as I have returned to OpenOffice so I don't have to deal with the continual regressions and be accused of "griping" for expecting a functional product. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #106 from V Stuart Foote --- Please do not reply on this resolved BZ issue. But fyi, for those affected (and unable to run OpenGL). The patch [1] just applied against a 5.3.7 release-- tdf#112486 Do not force GDI in no OpenGL, restores rendering quality. TDF TinderBox 62 builds available for testing both 32-bit and 64-bit build with the patch [2]. Assuming no issues are identified with this patch it will be included in the final 5.3 release, but _not yet_ in any fashion for the 5.4 or 6.0 builds. Please test, but respond on the open bz issue bug 112492, not here. =-ref-= [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=5440837e02dee8bc884e02be697bfd4def621d26&h=libreoffice-5-3 [2] http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/libreoffice-5-3/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Xisco FaulĂ changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED CC||xiscofa...@libreoffice.org Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE --- Comment #105 from Xisco FaulĂ --- Due to the great number of comments in this report, I've been forced to created a follow-up bug based on the latest constructive comment in here. Please, in the new report, comment only if the information provided helps to fix the issue, otherwise it's not of much help. Thanks *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 112492 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #104 from Andy --- I have no technical knowledge of what is implied, but as things stand at present, I totally agree with Lenge comment n. 101: "If that is the case, then the one and only solution to *this* bug is to fully revert any and all rendering to how it was in the 5.3.1 release - and leave it that way until a new solution is (1) available, (2) sufficiently usable, and (3) provides the same level of quality as 5.3.1 default rendering." The whole thing has really been a bad dream. Part of it, users like me cannot grasp what advantages we are benefiting to outbalance all the trouble, anguish and stress in discovering, following and coping with the issue. Please understand that I do not want to sound negative or polemic at all. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Telesto changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||112486 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112486 [Bug 112486] [META] Bugs caused/worsened by forcing GDI when needed -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #103 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Pierre C from comment #102) issue with text rendering to Impress canvas with Hardware Acceleration active is bug 107090 -- not this issue. But 'til fixed, can either use OpenGL rendering or use just CPU rendering for your presentations. With CPU only you may need to adjust some of the transitions. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #102 from Pierre C --- LO Team as made a great work to improve LO. They spent many efforts to promote LO. But, every day, when I use Impress, it said to my students : "Can you see how poor quality I am ? Of course, rendering is very bad. but that's not all On Friday, I had, an animation. Just text going to one place to another one. It was so ugly that some students laugh... Today : new lesson, with fading transition between slides. Very ugly flickering.. (Oh I forgot to switch off these transitions, it doesn't work any more) This is an exercise slides. where answers appears at each click A student ask me to go back one slide. Then after a few second, I go forward, and all the answers appears (Oh yeah, another regression I knew it... Grrr) despite the great LO team effort's, every day, Impress tells to my students "Can you see how ugly I am ?" In 5 years the total regressions had raised from 150 to 850... Is it sustainable ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #101 from Lenge --- (In reply to Michael Meeks from comment #100) > ... griping about LibreOffice ... is counter-productive ... Agreed. Yet as this is a major issue that affects many users, it should be taken seriously. Which in turn means ... > I would suggest that we close this bug, and create a series of new issues. ... that closing it would be the worst thing to do. While I agree that the discussion here has become quite complex, the plain facts are: 1. This bug exactly describes the problem as it (still) is. 2. It is a major issue that affects many users. 3. It is a regression introduced by a minor version update (5.3.1 to 5.3.2). 4. None of the actions taken so far (subsequent updates, alleged fixes etc.) has improved anything. In short, it has not been fixed in any way. 5. Numerous spin-off issues have already been created that focus on certain follow-up aspects such as DirectWrite improvements. Closing this bug would only send the message that this thing is not taken seriously. Any subsequent issues would only unnecessarily reproduce all the examinations, examples and attachments that are already here. > Ultimately - I'm fairly convinced that Microsoft's new / DirectWrite > rendering is a performance horror, and that by far the best approach would > be to go to freetype-everywhere. [...] If that is the case, then the one and only solution to *this* bug is to fully revert any and all rendering to how it was in the 5.3.1 release - and leave it that way until a new solution is (1) available, (2) sufficiently usable, and (3) provides the same level of quality as 5.3.1 default rendering. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #100 from Michael Meeks --- AFAICS the griping about LibreOffice being a volunteer project in the bug is counter-productive when it comes to interesting volunteer developers in fixing it - also by now this bug is far too long to read in any tractable time for a volunteer. I would suggest that we close this bug, and create a series of new issues. Ultimately - I'm fairly convinced that Microsoft's new / DirectWrite rendering is a performance horror, and that by far the best approach would be to go to freetype-everywhere. Unfortuantely that is a chunk of work, and leaves us with some serious printing problems - Windows not providing any sensible print / output API unfortunately such as eg. PDF (and XPS hardly counts). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #99 from JeffD --- (In reply to Andy from comment #98) > > Please notice that problems 1) and 2) are not mitigated in ANY combination > of display settings (hardware accel and opengl. All together , IMHO this > problems make for a compelling case supporting the need to solve this. > In terms of critical nature, for power users n. 2 is the worst, and there > seems to be NO workaround whatsoever. If I may add; even if there was some magic combination of settings that made LO usable, I doubt the average user considering switching to a free open source solution and trying LO out for the first time would likely be compelled to search for that magic combination before deciding they need to keep forking out money for a commercial office product. Their first impression of LO would be that it is a low quality product. Users simply aren't accustomed to products that have such problems on their default settings. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #98 from Andy --- I am sorry to mix things up a bit, but I would like to summarize the main problems I experiences with the modified fonts display technique in latest releases (lo5.3.2 and further). I am doing this because taken togheter they are quite problematic. Everything is based on trails conducted on 2 different windows 7 PC (there is no difference in outcome between the 2): 1)font rendering for all GUI of the suite are ugly and unpolished, and things are a bit worse also for document contens (even if the latter is less evident than in the GUI rendering - menus, dialog windows etc.) 2) the scrolling of content displayed on a document, especially calc sheets, has slowed down and become jerky. This slowing down makes LO downright unusable when the screen shows a lot of data (see the details I posted in bug 107521), causing scrolling to be around 13 THIRTEEN times slower than with lo5.3.1. At those speed keyboard buffer becomes impossible to control and is extremely difficult to navigate your spreadsheets 3) full screen impress presentations are rendered in a dramatically bad fashion when hardware display accel is enabled. This can be avoided disabling Hardware accel, but I still have to understand what this disabling implies for other functions. Or is a totally useless option? Please notice that problems 1) and 2) are not mitigated in ANY combination of display settings (hardware accel and opengl. All together , IMHO this problems make for a compelling case supporting the need to solve this. In terms of critical nature, for power users n. 2 is the worst, and there seems to be NO workaround whatsoever. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #97 from JeffD --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #96) > (In reply to JeffD from comment #95) > > Well good luck with AOO, especially when you attempt any substantive work > with OOXML, or any cloud hosted files, or any of the dozens of other > unsupported file formats that LibreOffice handles cleanly. > > Personally I've dropped use of the 5.3 branch, and would recommend a slide > forward onto 5.4 branch where any development effort--drawn from > 6.0/master--that will see this resolved would be back-ported. > > LibreOffice continues to work well for me and most others, but YMMV and as > you note there are alternatives. Yes, I don't use the cloud and try to stick to native Open Document formats, and apparently "most others" means everyone who doesn't use MS Windows, as, from what I can see, it appears everyone on Windows seems to be affected. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #96 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to JeffD from comment #95) > I never thought I'd do this, but I've actually started using AOO after > telling everyone else that I thought it was pretty much dead and they should > go with LO. Well good luck with AOO, especially when you attempt any substantive work with OOXML, or any cloud hosted files, or any of the dozens of other unsupported file formats that LibreOffice handles cleanly. Personally I've dropped use of the 5.3 branch, and would recommend a slide forward onto 5.4 branch where any development effort--drawn from 6.0/master--that will see this resolved would be back-ported. LibreOffice continues to work well for me and most others, but YMMV and as you note there are alternatives. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #95 from JeffD --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #94) > (In reply to JeffD from comment #93) > > > > I personally would use the "Still" version of LO, if "Still" meant "stable", > > but the difference between the "Still" and "Fresh" version is that the new > > bugs in the "Fresh" version may be different than the unfixed bugs in the > > "Still" version, and the updates are still frequent in the "Still" version. > > Perhaps you'd be more comfortable remaining on the 5.2.7 release, it is EOL > but should be stable for you. > > http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.2.7.2/win/ Thanks for the suggestion, but I believe that version had the bug that won't retain formatting when pasting RTF, as I mentioned above (bug 101828). So it seems I have to go back further or just keep swapping one bug for another. I never thought I'd do this, but I've actually started using AOO after telling everyone else that I thought it was pretty much dead and they should go with LO. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #94 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to JeffD from comment #93) > > I personally would use the "Still" version of LO, if "Still" meant "stable", > but the difference between the "Still" and "Fresh" version is that the new > bugs in the "Fresh" version may be different than the unfixed bugs in the > "Still" version, and the updates are still frequent in the "Still" version. Perhaps you'd be more comfortable remaining on the 5.2.7 release, it is EOL but should be stable for you. http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.2.7.2/win/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #93 from JeffD --- How is it that bugs are introduced in minor point releases that are supposed to be "bug fix only" releases, and then they take several more updates to be fixed, if ever? Even if you go back to an earlier release where fonts are rendered clearly, then you have another bug where RTF isn't pasted correctly. How are ugly fonts and improper pasting not serious issues in what is supposed to be a professional office product, and how do such serious bugs keep getting closed out by people who obviously didn't experience the bugs on their systems to begin with? While having been a big promoter of LibreOffice, I've come to see how forced updates every few weeks on a schedule no matter what, don't necessarily work that well in practice. The claim is that these forced releases result in "quality free software", and in fact, it does seem LibreOffice is tending to become quality free. It would be good if bugs were actually fixed before releasing "bug fix" updates instead of introducing new bugs, and even if new bugs are at times unavoidably introduced, why is it so hard to reverse what caused the bugs? No wonder why OpenOffice continues to be so popular despite the lack of resources committed to it. Some users just seem to want something that works for them over constant updates. I personally would use the "Still" version of LO, if "Still" meant "stable", but the difference between the "Still" and "Fresh" version is that the new bugs in the "Fresh" version may be different than the unfixed bugs in the "Still" version, and the updates are still frequent in the "Still" version. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #92 from timofort --- Hello Same problem here with any version since 5.3.2 With or without OGL, fonts are fuzzy. Windows 8.1 & Intel HD Graphics I have to stay with 5.3.1 version. I don't understand why setup or options don't propose to disable cleartype greyscale ? Sad :( -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #91 from MaximeJ --- Just tried 5.4.1, the issue is still present. In my configuration, LO x86 on W10 x64 with an intel HD 3000, GL is disabled by blacklist and can only be activated if I ignore blacklist. Anyway, I think we should leave OpenGL out of this bug, the issue appeared after the change to the default rendering between 5.3.1.2 and 5.3.2 so we only complexify the procedure by testing and comparing with GL enabled. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #90 from Lenge --- Created attachment 135979 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135979&action=edit Detailed comparison with more options Ok, here is a more detailed comparison with options separately enabled/disabled. Caution: The screenshots incorrectly say "5.4.2.1", but "5.4.1.2" is correct! The results are as follows: LibreOffice 5.4.1.2 (current release) a) OpenGL off: - Rendering is ugly and blurry (both UI and in-document) - "Hardware acceleration" on/off has no effect - "Anti-aliasing" on/off has no effect b) OpenGL on: - Rendering is slightly different (but still ugly and blurry) - Horizontal ruler: Different rendering of vertical lines - "Hardware acceleration" is disabled - "Anti-aliasing" on/off has no effect LibreOffice 5.3.1.2 (last known good) a) OpenGL off: - Rendering is crispy and sharp (both UI and in-document) - "Hardware acceleration" on/off has no effect - "Anti-aliasing" on/off has no effect b) OpenGL on: - Rendering is ugly and blurry as in 5.4.1.2 (no extra screenshots) So the only way to get sharp rendering is to (1) use LO before 5.3.2 and (2) disable OpenGL (which has always been ugly and blurry, as already said in my previous comments). However, I couldn't observe any specific differences caused by hardware acceleration, anti-aliasing, or between UI and in-document content. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #89 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Lenge from comment #88) > Created attachment 135977 [details] > Comparison of 5.3.1.2 vs. 5.4.1.2 > > To demonstrate what I mean, I did another side-by-side comparison of the > 5.3.1.2 release ("last known good" before the rendering problems started) > and the current 5.4.1.2 release. > > The screenshots were taken on the same machine and with identical settings > (hardware acceleration ON, anti-aliasing ON, OpenGL OFF). While the > difference is quite visible in the UI itself (sharpness of menus and dialog > texts), it is almost extreme for in-document rendering. > > (BTW: Turning anti-aliasing on or off seems to have no effect in 5.4.1.2 > when OpenGL is disabled.) Please disable Hardware Acceleration, so CPU only, and repeat the clip. And the same with OpenGL enabled. Do CPU only and OpenGL match--leaving just the Hardware Acceleration at issue in rendering canvas, not the UI--which actually is consistent with bug 107090. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #88 from Lenge --- Created attachment 135977 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135977&action=edit Comparison of 5.3.1.2 vs. 5.4.1.2 To demonstrate what I mean, I did another side-by-side comparison of the 5.3.1.2 release ("last known good" before the rendering problems started) and the current 5.4.1.2 release. The screenshots were taken on the same machine and with identical settings (hardware acceleration ON, anti-aliasing ON, OpenGL OFF). While the difference is quite visible in the UI itself (sharpness of menus and dialog texts), it is almost extreme for in-document rendering. (BTW: Turning anti-aliasing on or off seems to have no effect in 5.4.1.2 when OpenGL is disabled.) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #87 from V Stuart Foote --- Created attachment 135976 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135976&action=edit samples from 1920x1080 desktop Intel HD 620 GPU Do not see any problems with rendering. Attached zip shows Windows 10 (Intel HD 620 GPU) at 1920x1080 resolution--LibreOffice 5.4.1.2 main menu above a FireFox 55.0.3 main menu. The 3 clips show each of: CPU only rendering, Hardware Acceleration, and OpenGL rendering of the SegoeUI fonts. There is no noticeable differences between the FireFox and the LibreOffice rendering of the same text. I do not see the claimed "ugly and blurry" rendering. Pretty clear this is resolved--Fixed and our restoration of Greycale rendering is having the desired effects. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #86 from Andy --- I have tried 5.4.1.2, I can confirm the system fonts are looking bad, unfortunately -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Lenge changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- --- Comment #85 from Lenge --- Just checked with 5.4.1.2 on Windows 8.1-64: - Settings: Hardware acceleration, anti-aliasing, no OpenGL - Result: Absolutely NO improvement compared to 5.3.2.2 - All my previous comments still apply So this issue obviously isn't fixed, neither in 5.4.0.3 nor in 5.4.1.2 releases. Reopening; could somebody please have a look if it's really unfixed or if it's just me doing something wrong? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11 ||1317 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #84 from Lenge --- Just checked with 5.4.0.3 on Windows 8.1-64: - Settings: Hardware acceleration, anti-aliasing, no OpenGL - Result: Absolutely NO improvement compared to 5.3.2.2 - All my previous comments still apply Given that this issue has been set to "RESOLVED FIXED", is this really the expected result for 5.4.0.3? In other words, Will the fix only be available in 6.x? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #83 from Erkhyan --- Windows 7 64-bit, LibreOffice x64 On my machine, I confirm that 5.3.4.2 was the first version with correct font anti aliasing. Which makes it frustrating that 5.4.0.3 seems to have reverted to pre-5.3.4 bad antialiasing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Aron Budea changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||109234 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109234 [Bug 109234] [META] DirectWrite rendering bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #82 from Aron Budea --- With reference to the commit in comment 70, I wonder if the following could be a clue why it is causing a regression similar to bug 107166 together with the fix of that bug on some remote desktop connections: "IDWriteFactory::CreateRenderingParams method Creates a rendering parameters object with default settings for the primary monitor. Different monitors may have different rendering parameters, for more information see the How to Add Support for Multiple Monitors topic." https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd368201(v=vs.85).aspx -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|FIXED |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Bug 106990 depends on bug 107166, which changed state. Bug 107166 Summary: Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||martin_stimm...@yahoo.de --- Comment #81 from V Stuart Foote --- *** Bug 109086 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #80 from LRN --- Windows 10, libo-master64~2017-07-12_08.45.38_LibreOfficeDev_6.0.0.0.alpha0_Win_x64 Use hardware acceleration: yes Use anti-aliasing: yes Use OpenGL for all rendering: no subpixel antialiasing is back and looks as good as ever. There's more flickering when, for example, menu items are highlighted though. when "Use OpenGL for all rendering" is switched to "yes", subpixel antialiasing disappears, greyscale antialiasing is used instead. Text sharpness in OpenGL mode is *still* better than it used to be in 5.3.2.x, but, obviously, worse than what subpixel antialiasing provides. Looks like it's a feature that we're going to be stuck with for the rest of our lives - either fast GL rendering, or sharp text, but not both. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #79 from Timur --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #61) > The issue in Impress slide rendered with GPU "Use hardware acceleration" is > open as bug 107090 -- likely related to DirectWrite handling but not the > issue here. Only saw this now, sorry. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added CC||gti...@gmail.com --- Comment #78 from Timur --- Windows 7 here with Intel HD graphics used, AMD Radeon also available. I still see the problem in Impress as in Comment 11. Master, default rendering. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #77 from V Stuart Foote --- The 5.4.0.2 rc is posted to the prerelease server for any interested. Corrected DirectWrite rendering is evident, it functions correctly on Win8, 8.1 and 10. But users on XP and Vista may not see much change. We are interested in what Win7 users report. Side-by-side screen clips 5.4.0.1 and earlier vs. 5.4.0.2 and later in different rendering modes (OpenGL, GPU, CPU with and without anti-aliasing) appreciated when critiquing. =-ref-= http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #76 from Andy --- Hello, I tried release 5.4.0.2 yesterday, with all possible combinations of hardware acceleration, openGL and anti-alias option, but the meno fonts remained unchanged and bad to look at. Sorry... on windows 7 by the way -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #75 from V Stuart Foote --- Verified we have the correct behavior, including responding to system settings for use of ClearType. on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit en-US with Version: 6.0.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 7ab9f12b57b1cb25b8b29f8bcbf006968db6b679 CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 6.19; UI render: default; TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2017-07-07_05:27:37 Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: CL side-by-side with yesterdays Version: 6.0.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: eda9605ad51c82c4dc7dedcb8910f2384d6cc460 CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 6.19; UI render: default; TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2017-07-06_06:23:13 Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: CL With OpenGL rendering disabled, using default w/Hardware acceleration or just CPU for rendering, examine the menubar in Start Center looking at the "O" in open, and "C" in ctrl+ shortcuts. Also, any open module's menubar the "O", "C" or "G" glyphs. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #74 from Commit Notification --- TomaĹľ Vajngerl committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "libreoffice-5-4": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=238d6e367b3bcbc14cc7579dda866488a2c7f4c3&h=libreoffice-5-4 tdf#106990 set cleartype setting / force to use GDI render mode It will be available in 5.4.0.2. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Commit Notification changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard|target:6.0.0|target:6.0.0 target:5.4.0.2 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #73 from f...@foramnagaidhlig.net --- It means that they are trying to copy the fix over to the version 5 development cycle, so that users can benefit from it faster and won't have to wait for version 6. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #72 from Andy --- Sorry, what is the meaning of "cherry-picking" in this case? I am a bit clueless sorry again -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Michael Meeks changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |FIXED --- Comment #71 from Michael Meeks --- Cherry-pick in progress for 5-4; thanks for the report - and to Tomaz for fixing =) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #70 from Commit Notification --- TomaĹľ Vajngerl committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=a5a3e82e99e7a60ec65c339dd0463af5c680cead tdf#106990 set cleartype setting / force to use GDI render mode It will be available in 6.0.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Commit Notification changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard||target:6.0.0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #69 from Andy --- Alas I tried and installed lo 5.4.0.1 but everything is still the same, ugly font rendering of menus and dialogs (you can apply some substitutions, but the ugliness remains, and besides you may NOT want that substitution active for your documents as well), awful looking impress full screen presentations with hardware acceleration activated. Promptly downgraded back to the last good version, 5.3.1. BTW, 5.4.0.1 in Italian is still very preliminary, with dozens of untranslated words scattered along the GUI, but this is another matter -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Ivan Saggiorato changed: What|Removed |Added CC||saggioratoi...@gmail.com --- Comment #68 from Ivan Saggiorato --- Just here to suggest to give this bug report a more high priority than normal for a more fast assignment. For some people with severe sight problems like me this bug have a big impact for the productivity, pushing me to use other office suite on Windows or turn on a Linux machine in the meanwhile. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #67 from wroot --- Adding comment to confirm same issue on my end (Nvidia 550Ti with latest drivers, Win7 x64, 1680x1050). I had to disable OpenGL via registry hack since 5.1 to make LO even show menus. Now the text is fuzzy and menu flickers with or without HA and AA. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected) (devEval comment 60)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW CC||je...@softcatala.org Summary|font rendering got worse|font rendering got worse |looking in 5.3.2.2 (for |looking in 5.3.2.2 (for |Default rendering, OpenGL |Default rendering, OpenGL |not affected) |not affected) (devEval ||comment 60) Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #66 from V Stuart Foote --- Confirmed many times, but to NEW rather than WONTFIX. See Michael M's. hint as in comment 60 and what IMHO are structural issues with our DirectWrite implementation as in bug 107521 and where we seem to now have wonky defaults initializing the DirectWrite rendering. =-ref-= http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/vcl/inc/win/winlayout.hxx#199 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 odinatlas changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|UNCONFIRMED Ever confirmed|1 |0 --- Comment #65 from odinatlas --- In ms office. when zoon out ,small text and program menu , dialog etc ,no anti-aliasing. when zoon in ,biger text anti-aliasing. Maybe LO can refer to ms office. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Aron Budea changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 ||8236 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #64 from Andy --- hi, does anyone know if something has happened on this problem with release 5.4.0.0? Thanks -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Depends on||107166 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107166 [Bug 107166] Text is invisible, both in UI and in editor on update to 5.3.2, older AMD and Intel GPUs -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||stevenx...@gmail.com --- Comment #63 from V Stuart Foote --- *** Bug 107760 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 ||7744 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #62 from Lenge --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #53) > For folks not happy with the OpenGL and Default rendering of Seoge UI [...] Sorry, but noone has complained about the rendering of only one font. Instead, my experience was (and still is): (1.) For all versions up to (and including) 5.3.1, ANY AND ALL font rendering (both UI and in-document) was (a) sharp and clear when OpenGL was turned off, and (b) ugly and blurry when OpenGL was turned on. (2.) Since 5.3.2, ANY AND ALL font rendering (both UI and in-document) has become ugly and blurry regardless of OpenGL being on or off. This experience is NOT dependent on one or more specific fonts, and it doesn't change with hardware acceleration enabled or disabled. Several comments have already pointed out that font substitution (as you proposed) does not improve anything. So, whatever changes have been introduced between 5.3.1 and 5.3.2, these didn't improve the ugly and blurry OpenGL font rendering (which was already broken before), but instead substantially degraded non-OpenGL font rendering. In effect, this leaves no more option to get sharp and clear fonts by turning OpenGL off. So I'd strongly suggest to: - As first aid, restore non-OpenGL font rendering as it was in 5.3.1 in order to quickly make LO at least usable again. - In the long run, improve OpenGL rendering so that it becomes similarly clear and sharp as non-OpenGL before 5.3.2. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #61 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Andy from comment #55) > Ehm I have the feeling that we do not have a shared awareness of the problem > here... > please have a look at my attach "a side by side comparison of impress slide > showing the deterioration of its rendering" > It the font substitution solving this and does it bring impress full screen > rendering back to its old glory? > > To me this is the main point now. The issue in Impress slide rendered with GPU "Use hardware acceleration" is open as bug 107090 -- likely related to DirectWrite handling but not the issue here. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #60 from Michael Meeks --- Tone aside; it should be reasonably easy to fix by passing a different parameter (enabling cleartype) to the DirectWrite renderer - in the case that we're not using OGL rendering; ClearType for in-document text rendering is deeply problematic, and is disabled in recent MS Office's as well by default (FWIW) - but in the GDI fallback case this should be fairly simple. git grep ANTIALIASED_QUALITY gives the code-site; I suspect we want that sets the quality member on the LOGFONT cf. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/dd145037(v=vs.85).aspx we could use CLEARTYPE_QUALITY - but it is unclear to me why the DEFAULT_QUALITY is not this so ... ;-) worth a try perhaps ? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #59 from Serg Bormant --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #53) > For folks not happy with the OpenGL and Default rendering of Seoge UI > (system font from Win 7 -> Win 10) it is a simple process to set a font > replacement for Segoe UI which is not well rendered. > > Tools -> Options -> Fonts: "Apply replacement table" checked active, > > Select "Segoe UI" for the "From:" entry, and a suitable San-Serif font for > "Replace with:", then OK to apply. > > "Noto Sans" is a good fit if installed, or the "Open Sans" font (bundled > with LibreOffice). "DejaVu Sans" (also bundled) works as well but has > smaller metrics than "Segoe UI" and the UI shrinks. The old "Tahoma" font is > used for Windows XP and earlier but folks might like that as well. These are not workaround for ugly UI rendering. Reinstall 5.3.2.2, apply font replacement, restart LO. No changes. LO 5.3.2.2 on Windows 10 x64 Home, nVidia 310M, FullHD Low DPI LCD, added Open Sans, Noto Sans UI, Noto Sans screenshots. Back to 5.3.1 here again. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #57 from Serg Bormant --- Created attachment 133089 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=133089&action=edit Noto Sans UI, LO 5.3.2.2 on Windows 10 x64 Home, nVidia 310M, FullHD Low DPI LCD -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #58 from Serg Bormant --- Created attachment 133090 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=133090&action=edit Noto Sans, LO 5.3.2.2 on Windows 10 x64 Home, nVidia 310M, FullHD Low DPI LCD -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #56 from Serg Bormant --- Created attachment 133088 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=133088&action=edit Open Sans, LO 5.3.2.2 on Windows 10 x64 Home, nVidia 310M, FullHD Low DPI LCD -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #55 from Andy --- Ehm I have the feeling that we do not have a shared awareness of the problem here... please have a look at my attach "a side by side comparison of impress slide showing the deterioration of its rendering" It the font substitution solving this and does it bring impress full screen rendering back to its old glory? To me this is the main point now. That said, if the rendering of Segoe UI has to get worse necessarily, I do not completely understand why and how other fonts used as system font should instead perform marvellously... is it a problem with Segoe UI only??? Please help me to understand,thank you all -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 f...@foramnagaidhlig.net changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX |--- --- Comment #54 from f...@foramnagaidhlig.net --- What do you mean, won't fix? >From the users' perspective, it was fixed before, so LibreOffice has now suddenly become unusable for an undetermined amount of time, because it's impossible to even look at the ting for any amount of time? Looking at the number of complaints, those are just by users who how to work a bug tracker. If there is no solution by the next release which should better come quick, the average user will just throw up their arms in despair and eventually return to non-free software. I know that graphics stuff isn't easy to implement, but there should at least be a workaround or a return to the old code until bug 107521 can be fixed. A possible workaround would be to have the installer take the steps you suggested automatically for the user. Please ping me if you want me to test something on that end. And this affects Windows 7 too (which I'm on), not just the Segue UI fonts. Yes, I'm on crappy laptop Intel graphics. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 ||7521 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #53 from V Stuart Foote --- For folks not happy with the OpenGL and Default rendering of Seoge UI (system font from Win 7 -> Win 10) it is a simple process to set a font replacement for Segoe UI which is not well rendered. Tools -> Options -> Fonts: "Apply replacement table" checked active, Select "Segoe UI" for the "From:" entry, and a suitable San-Serif font for "Replace with:", then OK to apply. "Noto Sans" is a good fit if installed, or the "Open Sans" font (bundled with LibreOffice). "DejaVu Sans" (also bundled) works as well but has smaller metrics than "Segoe UI" and the UI shrinks. The old "Tahoma" font is used for Windows XP and earlier but folks might like that as well. Until work for bug 107521 can improve DirectWrite rendering and restore more appealing rendering of the native Segoe UI system font (for both OpenGL and Default rendering) these alternate fonts are DirectWrite grayscale rendered by LibreOffice cleaner than the Windows system font Segoe UI. Moving this to WONTFIX -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Oliver Brinzing changed: What|Removed |Added CC||oliver.brinz...@gmx.de --- Comment #52 from Oliver Brinzing --- adding me cc -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #51 from Gabriela --- (In reply to Andy from comment #50) > I am sorry to bother, I just wondered if release 5.3.3.1 involves any change > concerning the problem described here. > If it does, I will test it eagerly otherwise, I'll skip it. > Thanks for any info! Hi Andy! I reviewed the version of LibreOffice 5.3.3.1, and on my computer I found the same problem I had with version 5.3.2.2. Maybe someone else had different result. In fact, I installed the previous version, 5.3.1.2. I think that soon there will be a new version fixing the problem. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #50 from Andy --- I am sorry to bother, I just wondered if release 5.3.3.1 involves any change concerning the problem described here. If it does, I will test it eagerly otherwise, I'll skip it. Thanks for any info! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Thomas Lendo changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|thomas.le...@gmail.com |libreoffice-b...@lists.free ||desktop.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Thomas Lendo changed: What|Removed |Added CC||thomas.le...@gmail.com Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |thomas.le...@gmail.com |desktop.org | --- Comment #49 from Thomas Lendo --- Created attachment 132822 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=132822&action=edit LO 5.3.2.2 on Windows 10 Pro x64, Nvidoa Quadro FX 3800 Another example of bad rendering and flickering in menu bar. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added CC||f...@foramnagaidhlig.net --- Comment #48 from Buovjaga --- *** Bug 107382 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added OS|All |Windows (All) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 odinatlas changed: What|Removed |Added CC||odinat...@gmail.com OS|Windows (All) |All -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #47 from Andy --- Thanks a lot! It remains the fact that the 5.3.1 links on the website are going nowhere and people will easily get lost -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #46 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Andy from comment #45) > After long and frantic search, I was able to find a win install file for > version 5.3.1 which has dead links on all mirrors. > However, the help file (at least for Italian language) in nowhere, > impossible to find I have no more offline help right now. Any suggestion > appreciated... Project maintains an archive for these issues, the SDK and help file installers are there as well: https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.3.1.2/win/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #45 from Andy --- After long and frantic search, I was able to find a win install file for version 5.3.1 which has dead links on all mirrors. However, the help file (at least for Italian language) in nowhere, impossible to find I have no more offline help right now. Any suggestion appreciated... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #44 from Andy --- Hello, I am assessing the problem further: - on windows 7, lenovo thinkpad 540, I upgraded video drivers today. Display problems with 5.3.2.2 remain unchanged, UI is rendered very ugly, text is Writer is markedly worse than in 5.3.1, full screen odp is totally unusable. openGl settings changes nothing. In this configuration, 5.3.2.2 cannot be used at least for presentation, and I am trying again to downgrade again to 5.3.1. At the moment this is impossible, the 5.3.1. link on the webpage is dead, and all mirrors do not contain 5.3.1 anymore. HELP!!! - on windows 10 hp notebook, rendering with the two version is exactly the same for menus and writer text, but full screen presentations are again quite bad, not quite as horrible as on win7, but still certainly not ready for prime time... On the whole, the changes introduced seem to me decidedly negative. And at the moment the unavailability of 5.3.1 is highly problematic. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #43 from LRN --- Windows 10 x86_64 here, i wholeheartedly agree with comment 40 - Writer became ultimately unusable without subpixel anti-aliasing in 5.3.2.x. I do not necessarily insist on getting exactly the output that LibreOffice used to produce before 5.3.2.x, but i do insist on *some* form of subpixel anti-aliasing (for example, i generally like FreeType2 subpixel rendering more than ClearType; not sure what LibreOffice used to use), especially for the work area. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||lrn1...@gmail.com --- Comment #42 from V Stuart Foote --- *** Bug 107235 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added See Also|https://bugs.documentfounda |https://bugs.documentfounda |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 |7024|5863 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added CC||briandita...@hotmail.com --- Comment #41 from V Stuart Foote --- *** Bug 107121 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Lenge changed: What|Removed |Added CC||spam...@gmx.net --- Comment #40 from Lenge --- I can confirm this bug on Windows 8 and 8.1. On all versions before 5.3.2, default (non-OpenGL) font rendering was crispy, sharp and clear. Since 5.3.2, it looks ugly and blurry. With OpenGL turned on, it *always* looked ugly and blurry (which is why I always left GL turned off). This experience is exactly the same on at least six different monitors (all of which are traditional non-HiDPI). The rendering of all other applications (including Windows itself, Firefox, and Thunderbird) is still sharp and clear on the same monitors. Please fix this bug! Current rendering becomes a pain in the eye after some time and makes it extremely hard to work for a longer time. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10 ||7090 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Serg Bormant changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|NEW -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #39 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Serg Bormant from comment #38) > Really? > > How to get image/behavior as LO 5.3.1.2 with > [v] Use hardware acceleration > [v] Use anti-aliasing > > You don't see ugly fonts with FullHD on 13", but try to see LO 5.3.2.2 > picture on low DPI LCD -- it is terrible ugly. That is the point, you can not. Hence my assessment this is not a bad thing and a WONTFIX of rolling it back, but we'll let the devs decide that ;-) DirectWrite has more completely replaced comparable GDI calls, and now at 5.3.2.2 the Default and CPU rendering matches the rendering as for OpenGL. That is intended and by design, but there is agreement that the DirectWrite calls need attention. It remains to resolve is if the DirectWrite calls can be made more functional for earlier Windows--notably XP, or if support for XP will be dropped. And to determine if a buffering scheme similar to OpenGL must be implemented for the Default rendering to remove the flicker of bug 107024 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 Serg Bormant changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|WONTFIX |--- -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 --- Comment #38 from Serg Bormant --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #37) > content with closing WONTFIX? Really? How to get image/behavior as LO 5.3.1.2 with [v] Use hardware acceleration [v] Use anti-aliasing You don't see ugly fonts with FullHD on 13", but try to see LO 5.3.2.2 picture on low DPI LCD -- it is terrible ugly. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 106990] font rendering got worse looking in 5.3.2.2 ( for Default rendering, OpenGL not affected)
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106990 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WONTFIX --- Comment #37 from V Stuart Foote --- (In reply to Serg Bormant from comment #36) > > Need to compare the OpenGL result from that against the OpenGL result for > > 5.3.2, to asses degradation. > > The same fragments from LO 5.3.1.2 are attached. Thank you. So that set of clips confirms--there is no degradation of the OpenGL rendering, and that at 5.3.2.2 the DriectWrite/Direct2D font shaping is now more fully used with the Default HW and CPU only rendering. Fonts just look different between the two engines. The flickering of bug 107024 is an unintended consequence, but IMHO this is not a bug as it is by design. @Khaled, Michael, Tor, * -- content with closing WONTFIX? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs