[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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--- Comment #15 from m.a.riosv  ---
*** Bug 116250 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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--- Comment #14 from Karsten  ---
An option scroll behaviour with 3 choices would solve the problem:
* keyboard (as read from desktop system)
* on (permanent on)
* off (permanent off)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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--- Comment #13 from Eike Rathke  ---
Availabilty still doesn't tell anything about whether it behaves as expected or
is unexpectedly abused by some Window manager or other means as an LED
indicator activating the lock.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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--- Comment #12 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Would be nice if the option gets predefined depending on the system capability
whether scroll lock is available or not.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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--- Comment #11 from kol...@numericable.fr ---
This is not the disturbing of a normal feature: some people assigned a feature
to the Scroll Lock key  because of a bug in X11 and Wayland which prevents the
key from working as expected. The normal feature, as originally intended, is to
modify the behavior of arrow keys and that’s what LO Calc now does.

Also, adding an option to disable this feature means more complexity. Is the
feature on or off, how will the ordinary user (possibly used to Excel which
supports it) will figure it out? Not everybody reads the release notes. And
what happens when or if the bug is fixed in X11 or in Wayland? (See
 and
).

So, IMHO, no option to disable this is needed for the reasons explained above.
If, however, developers decided to add such an option I think it should be
disabled by default and the decision to enable it should be left to distro
maintainers and/or the end users in order to avoid confusing the huge majority
of the user base. Just my 2 cents.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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--- Comment #10 from Norbert X  ---
Scroll Lock option is needed.

(see my comment 8 at bug 111627 -
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=111627#c8 for details).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103238
[Bug 103238] [META] Customize dialog bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113943
[Bug 113943] [META] Options dialog's Calc settings bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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--- Comment #9 from Sergey  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> (In reply to Sergey from comment #7)
> > So I don't see why LibreOffice should make its default configuration 
> > conflicting
> > with all these systems.
> 
> When a user wants to configure the scroll key him or herself, why not? By
> default it will be empty, of course.
> 
> Removing UX, dev please add scrollkey to customization.

Yes, I was talking about default setting. User should be able to customize it,
no question.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |needsDevEval
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
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 Blocks||103238

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Sergey from comment #7)
> So I don't see why LibreOffice should make its default configuration 
> conflicting
> with all these systems.

When a user wants to configure the scroll key him or herself, why not? By
default it will be empty, of course.

Removing UX, dev please add scrollkey to customization.


Referenced Bugs:

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[Bug 103238] [META] Customize dialog bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #7 from Sergey  ---
LED indication of the keyboard layout is the default for Debian based distros
which is a significant percentage in terms of number of users. So I don't see
why LibreOffice should make its default configuration conflicting with all
these systems.
Besides, as is was pointed out, it is just a third way to scroll. It is an open
question how many people prefer this one.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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Aron Budea  changed:

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Version|5.4.1.2 release |5.3.0.3 release

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Dmitry  changed:

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Version|5.3.0.3 release |5.4.1.2 release

--- Comment #6 from Dmitry  ---
I didn't know how to point that I have this issue for 5.4.1.2 release and then
I changed "Version" to 5.4.1.2, but I forgot what was the previous version
pointed, sorry. (Something like 5.3.1 or something..)

This "new feature" is really annoying. Why do I must change my system settings
to appease this one program only? (I use Lubuntu 17.10 and GTK2)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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--- Comment #5 from Shay G  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> What I understand is that Shay wants to reconfigure the shortcut. For other
> functions that's done via tools > customize (greatly improved for 6.0) where
> .uno:ScrollLock should be bound to .key:ScrollLock (or whatever this is
> labeled internally). And this assignment can be removed or redefined.

Yes.

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--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
What I understand is that Shay wants to reconfigure the shortcut. For other
functions that's done via tools > customize (greatly improved for 6.0) where
.uno:ScrollLock should be bound to .key:ScrollLock (or whatever this is labeled
internally). And this assignment can be removed or redefined.

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--- Comment #3 from erbe  ---
Hi,

I would say, to keep it simple, the option shall be enabled by default (like in
MS Excel) in all distributions - if needed a user could disable it somewhere in
configuration - and for this we would need an option somewhere in preferences. 

I also do use Debian with two keyboard layouts and don't use the scroll lock's
LED to show me which keyboard layout I use. I can see it in Gnome or XFCE
taskbar.

Regards

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--- Comment #2 from Shay G  ---
In debian, in a multi language config it should be disabled by default as
debian uses scroll lock like this by default. On other distros it shouldn't.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 112876] Add configuration to disable scroll lock function

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Aron Budea  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|filter:ods  |needsUXEval
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||ba...@caesar.elte.hu,
   ||forum+document@home.decotra
   ||in.de,
   ||johndo...@rambler.ru,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
Version|5.3.6.1 release |5.3.0.3 release
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46
   ||200,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   ||1627
Summary|Disable scroll lock |Add configuration to
   |function|disable scroll lock
   ||function
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Aron Budea  ---
Seems reasonable, it was also requested in bug 46200 comment 31 and in bug
111627 (which also seems to be about a bug, but needs more details from the
reporter).
I'm not sure why the feature should be deactivated by default, though, that
needs further reasoning. CCing the others who requested this before.

UX team, please suggest a configuration option for this.

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