[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 Leandro Martín Drudi changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sanipache...@outlook.com.ar --- Comment #1 from Leandro Martín Drudi --- Created attachment 145915 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=145915&action=edit Undo list The phrase is: "pensó en salir corriendo. Pero" Undo word by word in this phrase 10 undo actions when only one can be much more useful. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 Dieter Praas changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de, ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 Adolfo Jayme changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||105948 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105948 [Bug 105948] [META] Undo/Redo bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 --- Comment #2 from Telesto --- FWIW: It's possible to extent the number of undo steps. Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Open Expert Configuration -> Search for "Undo" Scroll down the list -> Search for "100" as value. Replace it for the amount of Undo steps expected It's a global setting. A large number of undo steps is less ideal for large data-amounts (for example when working with Calc) but fine for Writer (I think), except when working with large number of pictures and such. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 --- Comment #3 from Leandro Martín Drudi --- (In reply to Telesto from comment #2) > FWIW: It's possible to extent the number of undo steps. > Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> Open Expert Configuration -> Search for > "Undo" > Scroll down the list -> Search for "100" as value. Replace it for the amount > of Undo steps expected > > It's a global setting. A large number of undo steps is less ideal for large > data-amounts (for example when working with Calc) but fine for Writer (I > think), except when working with large number of pictures and such. [ES] Tener 10.000 opciones de deshacer es tan INEFICIENTE como tener 100 si cada acción solo almacena 1 palabra o 1 caracter. Como escritor resulta sumamente contraproducente e inutil el sistema actual pues cada clic deshace apenas una palabra o un caracter. [EN] Having 10,000 undo options is as INEFFICIENT as having 100 if each action only stores 1 word or 1 character. As a writer, the current system is extremely counterproductive and useless, as each click undoes just one word or one character. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- Maybe I don't get your envisioned algorithm but let's think about pauses, meaning you undo until the last pause of typing. This likely fails for most users as the speed is different - could be adaptive, of course - and since reverting phrases/sentences or anything longer than a word is more precisely achieved with selection and delete. OTOH, do you have an example where the undo functions works as expected? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW --- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze --- Topic is scheduled for the next design meeting (postponed from this week); setting to NEW meanwhile. Would be good to get your reply on comment 4, Leandro. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 --- Comment #6 from Leandro Martín Drudi --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > Maybe I don't get your envisioned algorithm but let's think about pauses, > meaning you undo until the last pause of typing. This likely fails for most > users as the speed is different - could be adaptive, of course - and since > reverting phrases/sentences or anything longer than a word is more precisely > achieved with selection and delete. OTOH, do you have an example where the > undo functions works as expected? [ES] No comprendo mucho lo que dices porque Google no traduce demasiado bien (supongo que desde el Español al Inglés sucede lo mismo). Pero, en MS Word el comando deshacer utiliza una forma similar a la que he propuesto. Escribir una página antera puede ser deshecho en 2 o 3 acciones de deshacer. Ahora, qué método usa, cómo lo logra, no lo sé. Solo se que esta forma de hacerlo de LibreOffice simplemente entorpece la fluidez de mi trabajo. No sé si usarán pausas, ciertas teclas, ciertos caracteres, no lo sé. Solo puedo decir que la forma actual de manejarlo, es demasiado ineficiente. En Calc creo que es muy útil: cada acción es lo escrito en una celda. Pero transportar esto a otro programa creo que no es una buena decisión. [EN] I do not understand much what you say because Google does not translate too well (I suppose that from Spanish to English the same thing happens). But, in MS Word, the undo command uses a form similar to the one I have proposed. Writing an anther page can be undone in 2 or 3 undo actions. Now, what method do you use, how do you do it, I do not know. I just know that this way of doing it from LibreOffice simply hinders the fluidity of my work. I do not know if they will use pauses, certain keys, certain characters, I do not know. I can only say that the current way of handling it is too inefficient. In Calc I think it is very useful: every action is what is written in a cell. But transporting this to another program I think is not a good decision. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 --- Comment #7 from Leandro Martín Drudi --- Created attachment 146013 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=146013&action=edit Word and Writer [ES] Vean ustedes mismos: Word usa 1 acción de deshacer para 15 palabras (porque esas escribí, seguramente si continuaba sin pausar, usaría la misma acción para un bloque grande de contenido). Por otro lado, Writer usa 10 acciones de deshacer para solo 5 palabras. [EN] See yourselves: Word uses 1 undo action for 15 words (because I wrote those, surely if I continued without pausing, I would use the same action for a large block of content). On the other hand, Writer uses 10 undo actions for only 5 words. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 120809] Undo and redo enhancement
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120809 --- Comment #8 from Leandro Martín Drudi --- Created attachment 146014 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=146014&action=edit Excel and Calc [ES] No está nada mal. Pero no sería una mala idea añadir esa descripción de la acción. [EN] It's not bad at all. But it would not be a bad idea to add that description of the action. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
