[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff) and required punctuation and quotation marks.

2019-02-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

Kovács Viktor  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff) and required punctuation and quotation marks.

2019-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

--- Comment #13 from Kovács Viktor  ---
cc:Stuart
Then, what I need to do? ( to close this bug, or not)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff) and required punctuation and quotation marks.

2019-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

--- Comment #12 from Kovács Viktor  ---
cc:Stuart 
http://mek.oszk.hu is the official homepage of the Hungarian National Library
called "Országos Széchenyi Könyvtár" (OSZK.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff) and required punctuation and quotation marks.

2019-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

--- Comment #11 from Kovács Viktor  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #7)
> Sorry Viktor, but completing the integration into DejaVu remains the most
> feasible way for LibreOffice to provide coverage of rovás in the "Old
> Hungarian" UCS block.

I understand.

> Bundling specialized fonts to support the User Interface for a single
> Unicode block is not an effective way to do things.

I understand.


> Meaning--for its broader distribution, and its deployment by
> LibreOffice--DejaVu is a better choice. Your Kende, Maros, and Attila fonts
> with specialized coverage of the UCS block are not going to be helpful--they
> would not be built/bundled by any Linux distro, and would likely not be
> built into the projects official builds. 

I understand.

> Despite its limitations, absent the work needed to implement a User
> Interface in Hungarian rovás (bug 103405), the CTL handling of the script
> does detect the UCS block and correctly applies the ICU bidi filters to text
> runs for the range. It will also assign a "Hungarian Rovas" language tag if
> that is set as the default CTL.

I understand.

> Also regards a supporting font Tamas needs to clarify the additional glyphs
> necessary to provide as PUA and where in the 20 remaining reserved spots of
> the "Old Hungarian" block they could be mapped and manipulated. We
> understand the argument that Unicode TC may have gotten it wrong during
> voting to release at UCS version 8.0--but working within the defined block
> is the only effective way to implement and then to make the case for
> expansion or relocation of the block.

I disagree with Tamás. I don't understand, what's the problem about "missing"
20 characters. The 108 characters are more, than for texts written in rovás
required. Widely less characters are used. (See downloadable e-books from
http://mek.oszk.hu page. Look it up in the "title" keyword Rovásírással.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff) and required punctuation and quotation marks.

2019-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

--- Comment #10 from Kovács Viktor  ---
cc: V Stuart Foote
This fonts extended by required punctuation and quotation marks, as suggested
by 
http://www.unicode.org/wg2/docs/n4268.pdf
document.
These glyphs are:
U+0021 EXCLAMATION MARK
U+002D HYPHEN - MINUS
U+002E FULL STOP
U+003A COLON 
U+201F DOUBLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK 
U+204F REVERSED SEMICOLON 
U+2E2E REVERSED QUESTION MARK 
U+2E41 REVERSED COMMA 
U+2E42 DOUBLE LOW-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK 
And, for backward compatibility with xkeyboards' Old Hungarian layout (that's
between the e extras) DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK U+0022.
It also implements a SPACE (U+0020).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff) and required punctuation and quotation marks.

2019-02-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

Kovács Viktor  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Provide font support of |Provide font support of
   |Unicode "Old Hungarian" |Unicode "Old Hungarian"
   |block (10c80-10cff) |block (10c80-10cff) and
   ||required punctuation and
   ||quotation marks.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff)

2019-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also|https://bugs.documentfounda |
   |tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11 |
   |3017|

--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 113017 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff)

2019-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

--- Comment #9 from V Stuart Foote  ---
*** Bug 123203 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 123219] Provide font support of Unicode "Old Hungarian" block (10c80-10cff)

2019-02-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123219

V Stuart Foote  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|There arn't a font for Old  |Provide font support of
   |Hungarian area  |Unicode "Old Hungarian"
   ||block (10c80-10cff)
Version|6.2.0.3 release |5.3.0.3 release
URL||https://bugs.freedesktop.or
   ||g/show_bug.cgi?id=107496
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11
   ||3017,
   ||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97
   ||406
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Blocks||102854, 103405
 CC||johann.alfred.seemann@outlo
   ||ok.com, ovari...@zoho.com,
   ||rovasi...@gmail.com

--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Sorry Viktor, but completing the integration into DejaVu remains the most
feasible way for LibreOffice to provide coverage of rovás in the "Old
Hungarian" UCS block.

Bundling specialized fonts to support the User Interface for a single Unicode
block is not an effective way to do things.

IMHO that specialized effort belongs bundled as an Extension that would include
any hu-Hung (SH) rovás transliteration tools (bug 97406 c#28) along with any
grammar & dictionary/spelling data. And likewise the same for hu-hung (CB)
should that gain usage.

Meaning--for its broader distribution, and its deployment by
LibreOffice--DejaVu is a better choice. Your Kende, Maros, and Attila fonts
with specialized coverage of the UCS block are not going to be helpful--they
would not be built/bundled by any Linux distro, and would likely not be built
into the projects official builds. 

Despite its limitations, absent the work needed to implement a User Interface
in Hungarian rovás (bug 103405), the CTL handling of the script does detect the
UCS block and correctly applies the ICU bidi filters to text runs for the
range. It will also assign a "Hungarian Rovas" language tag if that is set as
the default CTL.

Also regards a supporting font Tamas needs to clarify the additional glyphs
necessary to provide as PUA and where in the 20 remaining reserved spots of the
"Old Hungarian" block they could be mapped and manipulated. We understand the
argument that Unicode TC may have gotten it wrong during voting to release at
UCS version 8.0--but working within the defined block is the only effective way
to implement and then to make the case for expansion or relocation of the
block.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102854
[Bug 102854] [META] i18n: language “Székely-magyar rovás” Hungarian (Hungarian
Rovas) [hu-Hung-HU]
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103405
[Bug 103405] L10n: Add additional user interface language Hungarian Rovas
[hu-Hung-HU]
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