[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127073] Redaction done right

2019-09-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127073

--- Comment #7 from Ulrich Windl  ---
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #6)
> Ulrich, I agree that redacted PDF should be searchable (actual it is not).
> Is this - in short - your proposal in this bug report?

My basic point was that a PDF page is much more than a pixel image, but
redaction as implemented now just seems to create such.
Being able to search is probably the pint most noticeable to the user, but
document structure, and file size are also important issues. Finally I wonder
whether you'll be able to make good-looking high-resolution prints of such
redacted documents.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127073] Redaction done right

2019-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127073

--- Comment #6 from Dieter Praas  ---
Ulrich, I agree that redacted PDF should be searchable (actual it is not). Is
this - in short - your proposal in this bug report?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127073] Redaction done right

2019-08-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127073

--- Comment #5 from Ulrich Windl  ---
Created attachment 153686
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=153686=edit
ZIP-Archive with test documents (ODT, PDFs)

The ZIP contains:
Testpage.odt: A simple text document with images used for PDF export
Testpage.pdf: PDF produced from LO6.2
Testpage-Distiller.pdf: PDF produced by Adobe's Distiller

Note: For some reason the Adobe tool cannot redact parts of an image for the
PDF created by LO, but it can for the PDF created by Distiller. Thus the extra
file.

Testpage-Distiller-redacted.pdf: Parts of the text and parts of the images
being redacted.

  Length  DateTimeName
-  -- -   
   312544  2019-08-27 13:41   Testpage-Distiller-redacted.pdf
89760  2019-08-27 13:33   Testpage-Distiller.pdf
17055  2019-08-27 13:18   Testpage.odt
   135472  2019-08-27 13:19   Testpage.pdf
- ---

Try the redacted PDF, searching for text: You can find any text that had not
been redacted, while you cannot find text that had been redacted. I think
THAT's the way to go.

Note: I just realized that the original ODT had images linked; thus they are
missing in the ZIP. However, any image will do...

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127073] Redaction done right

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127073

--- Comment #4 from Ulrich Windl  ---
(In reply to Muhammet Kara from comment #2)
> What the reporter describes might be a nice (but risky -check the internet
> for security incidents of similar implementations-) implementation of a
> redaction feature, but not this one. Unless there is a strong will, and
> necessary resources to implement another version of the redaction feature,
> this is a WONTFIX for me.

Well I think another "poor man's solution" was selected for this interesting
feature. I can make an offer: Provide a simple test document, where the parts
to be redacted are marked in some color, and I'll return you a version
"redacted" with Adobe's product. Then you can look what you find in the
document, and compare it to the "pixel version". If you don't know better, you
might think things have to be that way.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127073] Redaction done right

2019-08-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127073

Ulrich Windl  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

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--- Comment #3 from Ulrich Windl  ---
(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #1)
> But then any enemy (or journalists) will delete your shapes using good PDF
> Editor and will see your secret info. Export to bitmap PDF will guarantee us
> that our secret info will remain secret.

You missed what I wrote: I did not write "overlayed by" but "replaced with".
Of course implementation will be harder. So if anenemy will delete the
rectangles, there will be just "holes" in the document where the rectangles
were.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127073] Redaction done right

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127073

--- Comment #2 from Muhammet Kara  ---
(In reply to Ulrich Windl from comment #0)
> (the current implementation is basically the digital version of "print it,
> blacken it, scan it again to make a new document").

That's exactly how it was designed.

(In reply to Roman Kuznetsov from comment #1)
> I think it's WONTFIX
> 
> Muhammet, what do you think?

What the reporter describes might be a nice (but risky -check the internet for
security incidents of similar implementations-) implementation of a redaction
feature, but not this one. Unless there is a strong will, and necessary
resources to implement another version of the redaction feature, this is a
WONTFIX for me.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127073] Redaction done right

2019-08-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> ---
But then any enemy (or journalists) will delete your shapes using good PDF
Editor and will see your secret info. Export to bitmap PDF will guarantee us
that our secret info will remain secret.

I think it's WONTFIX

Muhammet, what do you think?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127073] Redaction done right

2019-08-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dieter Praas  changed:

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Referenced Bugs:

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