[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 Ayhan Yalçınsoy changed: What|Removed |Added Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |ayhanyalcin...@pisilinux.or |desktop.org |g -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org Keywords|needsUXEval | Severity|normal |enhancement --- Comment #17 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Maxim Monastirsky from comment #14) > It's doable. So let's do it. Removing needsUX flag. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #15 from Maxim Monastirsky --- (In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #13) > Would it be too controversial to exchange the DF commands in the main menu > to styles commands like in the context menu? Note that the list style commands already present in the main menu under Styles, and that most of the Format menu (esp. of its top part) is about DF anyway. Look at Text, Spacing, Align etc. sub menus - it's all about DF there. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #14 from Maxim Monastirsky --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11) > Sure, the static XML based menu is extended dynamically. Is that too > difficult to realize? It's doable. Two examples that come to my mind are the Window menu, which is defined in menubar.xml, but has the active windows list appended to its bottom, and the OLE object context menu, which has OLE verbs (e.g. Edit, Open) appended to its bottom. But with this kind of solution you don't really need a special .uno:UserListStyle command, as you operate directly on the menu, so you can just add/remove ordinary style commands. > I imagine something like .uno:UserListStyle hidden when not active. That's another possible solution, which can be done with a fully static menu too. Think of the "Record Macro" command, which defined in menubar.xml, but is hidden depending on the respective setting under Tools > Options... > LibreOffice > Advanced. But for such solution to work, we still need to retrieve the contents of the menu, and check whether the current style is actually one of the static items (doable via the XUIConfigurationManager interface). In addition, we'll need to set listeners (via XUIConfiguration), to make sure we don't miss user customization of the menu, and also make the status type of .uno:UserListStyle to be a string, so it changes its title depending on the style name. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #12 from andreas_k --- dynamic styles support would be also very very usefull for draw/impress for shape styles. so in general it would be really cool. from my point of view styles and direct formating is always confusing users, but that's the same in mso. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Maxim Monastirsky from comment #10) > For this we'll need a dynamic menu which we can change at runtime... Sure, the static XML based menu is extended dynamically. Is that too difficult to realize? I imagine something like .uno:UserListStyle hidden when not active. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #10 from Maxim Monastirsky --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9) > How about listing this particular user style, if active, among the > preselection plus Off? That's likely the solution, but my point was that it isn't possible to do as long as it's a static menu (i.e. fully defined in xml). For this we'll need a dynamic menu which we can change at runtime (much like File > Recent Documents, or View > Toolbars), to add/remove the user style. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to Maxim Monastirsky from comment #7) > Because not all styles are listed there, and users can > create their own styles. So again there is a possibility for the "none > activated" state. How about listing this particular user style, if active, among the preselection plus Off? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #8 from Maxim Monastirsky --- (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #6) > Thanks for clarification, but can a new user (or also en exeprienced user) > be aware of that: There is no hint, that context menu affects styles: > - context menu => bullets and numbering => bullets and numbering doesn't > open list style dialog (the dialog is "Bullets and Numbering"). There is a similar situation with the Character and Paragraph sub menus of the context menu: Single direct formatting item on the top, followed by style commands. Confusing indeed. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #7 from Maxim Monastirsky --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > AFAIK, "Numbering Off" is a different command than the numbering styles but > would be required to toggle on/off with those. It doesn't need to interact with the other commands, just to provide an on/off state on its own (which then can be visually represented as a radio button). > Actually the current radio buttons list of styles has none > activated, which is wrong usability wise. True, but just want to point out that as long as this sub menu is static, it won't be possible to fully solve this problem by just providing the "Numbering Off" item. Because not all styles are listed there, and users can create their own styles. So again there is a possibility for the "none activated" state. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #6 from Dieter Praas --- (In reply to Maxim Monastirsky from comment #5) > (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #1) > There's some confusion here: The items in the context menu are applying > styles (they correspond to the same items under the Styles menu), while the > items in Format > List menu are about direct formatting Thanks for clarification, but can a new user (or also en exeprienced user) be aware of that: There is no hint, that context menu affects styles: - context menu => bullets and numbering => bullets and numbering doesn't open list style dialog (the dialog is "Bullets and Numbering"). According to your comment, this is a bug? - with the other option you change the style, but doesn't modify it In summary: Yes, confusing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 --- Comment #5 from Maxim Monastirsky --- (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #1) There's some confusion here: The items in the context menu are applying styles (they correspond to the same items under the Styles menu), while the items in Format > List menu are about direct formatting (they correspond to the toolbar bullet and numbering toggle buttons). So: > different names: "Bullet list" ans "number list" in context menu; "bulleted > list" and "numbered list" in Format => list Given that they're not the same, not necessarily they need to have same names. > in Format => List you can remove list, if you click on marked "Bulleted > List"; in context menue this is not possible Right. "Bulleted List" in Format > List is about direct formatting, which you can toggle on and off, like any other direct formatting (e.g. Bold). While the context menu items are actually styles, and it doesn't make sense to "toggle" styles. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC||momonas...@gmail.com Ever confirmed|0 |1 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- AFAIK, "Numbering Off" is a different command than the numbering styles but would be required to toggle on/off with those. Not an easy hack, right Maxim? And for the question whether to show or not, I vote for having it at both places. Actually the current radio buttons list of styles has none activated, which is wrong usability wise. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 Dieter Praas changed: What|Removed |Added Keywords||needsUXEval CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org --- Comment #3 from Dieter Praas --- (In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #2) > But anyway, I still vote for adding the command. Or, we delete the command in context menu and give possibility to remove list in the same way like in main menu cc: Design Team for further input -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 127142] UI: Add 'Numbering Off' command to Format > Lists submenu
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127142 Dieter Praas changed: What|Removed |Added CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de --- Comment #1 from Dieter Praas --- More general "Format => Lists" and "Bullets and numbering" in the context menu should be the same Differences: Numbering off in context menu, but not in Format => List (see comment 0) different names: "Bullet list" ans "number list" in context menu; "bulleted list" and "numbered list" in Format => list in Format => List you can remove list, if you click on marked "Bulleted List"; in context menue this is not possible -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
