[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 128907] Complete compatibility with Hancom Office file formats

2019-11-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128907

--- Comment #11 from PGM  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #10)
> It is unclear how this is different from tdf#108848 that you mention.
> 
> Just as in the latter, you note that "hwp" files (that are proprietary
> binary format in a "compound" file) are not read by LO. Have you found a
> documentation for it, like MS has created for its DOC [1], or do you offer a
> sponsorship to fund the reverse engineering?
> 
> You confirm that "cell" files (that are simply renamed XLSX) and "show"
> files (that are renamed PPTX) are opened in LO. Of course, we have issues
> related to XLSX (tdf#108897) and PPTX (tdf#108226) support. Is your request
> "to fix all those bugs (and also all unknown)"? Do you realize that full
> compatibility is not possible even in theory, because the two suites are
> built on different principles/document models; and that even where
> compatibility is possible, bugs happen, and need to be filed and fixed
> one-by-one?
> 
> [1]
> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/office_file_formats/ms-doc/
> ccd7b486-7881-484c-a137-51170af7cc22

#1 It is unclear how this is different from tdf#108848 that you mention.
>> I thought it was common with tdf#108848 to request support for the hwp file.
tdf#108848 was a problem on the android platform and I mentioned it because I
thought it was an extended request from Android to PC because it was a
difference in the problem on the PC platform.

#2 Just as in the latter, you note that "hwp" files (that are proprietary
binary format in a "compound" file) are not read by LO. Have you found a
documentation for it, like MS has created for its DOC [1], or do you offer a
sponsorship to fund the reverse engineering?
>> https://www.hancom.com/etc/hwpDownload.do 
As a result of searching on Hancom's website, Hancom released its own HWP file
format on June 29, 2010.

Let me translate the first paragraph in the page.

Hancom unveiled its binary format, HWP, and its markup language, HWPML, on June
29, 2010. We have released the previous versions of HWP 2.x/3x and HWP 2002
through HWP 2014 and HWP 2018. In addition, in October 2014, we released
document, formula, and chart specifications for supplementation and
distribution of HWP 5.0 specs. Using the File Type Disclosure Information
document, anyone can create a variety of secondary works.
OWPML, an open document format for HWP, is supported by the ".owpml" extension
from HWP 2018 and the subversion is supported with the ".hwpx" extension from
HWP 2010.

The hwp file formatting guide is written in Korean, but no English-language
document was found.

I also translated the last paragraph.

Hancom strongly supports the openness and standardization of document formats.
Hancom has supported HWP 97 free of charge and has also released document
formats for HWPML, the XML format for HWP 2002-2010 documents. Actively take
part in the ethics committee associated with an open document standards and
code worked for the standardization and openness of the file type. In addition,
long-term retention of records in the ' Hancom Office ' standard format, pdf a
the document format, international support and iso odf and actively storing
files types of importing and ooxml.I desire.!
Anyone who wishes to access this document will be provided to anyone who wishes
to access this document, and any person who wishes to use the copy,
distribution, publication and the content contained in this document in
addition to viewing this document must fully recognize and agree to this
copyright by Hancom. The distribution is the original unmodified all content be
limited to the original or copies. The original and copy must contain the
latest version of Hancom's specifications.
Hancom may also actively exercise its rights against those who wish to acquire
another exclusive and exclusive right based on the results obtained under the
HWP Document File (.hwp) disclosure document and exercise it against Hancom.
And this document, developed and the references listed in this document all
copyright is the result of product development will be in an individual or
group. However, "This product has been developed by referring to Hancom's HWP
document file (.hwp) disclosure document," which must be written in all user
interfaces, manuals, help, and sources within the product and only in the
absence of such components.
Hancom does not warrant any accuracy or integrity of the individual or group
product developed by reference to this document and the information contained
in this document.

In conclusion, I felt strongly that Libreoffice needed a Korean developer. I'm
not a professional developer yet.

#3 You confirm that "cell" files (that are simply renamed XLSX) and "show"
files (that are renamed PPTX) are opened in LO. Of course, we have issues
related to XLSX (tdf#108897) and PPTX (tdf#108226) support. Is your request
"to fix all those bugs (and also all unknown)"? Do you realize that ful

[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 128907] Complete compatibility with Hancom Office file formats

2019-11-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=128907

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--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
It is unclear how this is different from tdf#108848 that you mention.

Just as in the latter, you note that "hwp" files (that are proprietary binary
format in a "compound" file) are not read by LO. Have you found a documentation
for it, like MS has created for its DOC [1], or do you offer a sponsorship to
fund the reverse engineering?

You confirm that "cell" files (that are simply renamed XLSX) and "show" files
(that are renamed PPTX) are opened in LO. Of course, we have issues related to
XLSX (tdf#108897) and PPTX (tdf#108226) support. Is your request "to fix all
those bugs (and also all unknown)"? Do you realize that full compatibility is
not possible even in theory, because the two suites are built on different
principles/document models; and that even where compatibility is possible, bugs
happen, and need to be filed and fixed one-by-one?

[1]
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/openspecs/office_file_formats/ms-doc/ccd7b486-7881-484c-a137-51170af7cc22

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 128907] Complete compatibility with Hancom Office file formats

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--- Comment #9 from PGM  ---
Created attachment 155963
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show's screenshot in Impress.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 128907] Complete compatibility with Hancom Office file formats

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--- Comment #8 from PGM  ---
Created attachment 155962
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show's screenshot in HanShow.

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--- Comment #7 from PGM  ---
Created attachment 155961
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hwp's screenshot in Writer.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 128907] Complete compatibility with Hancom Office file formats

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--- Comment #6 from PGM  ---
Created attachment 155960
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hwp's screenshot in HanWord.

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--- Comment #5 from PGM  ---
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cell's screenshot in Calc.

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--- Comment #4 from PGM  ---
Created attachment 155958
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cell's screenshot in HanCell.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 128907] Complete compatibility with Hancom Office file formats

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--- Comment #3 from PGM  ---
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sample show file.

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--- Comment #2 from PGM  ---
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--- Comment #1 from PGM  ---
Created attachment 155955
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sample hwp file.

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