[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

2021-09-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136495

--- Comment #6 from Telesto  ---
Created attachment 175380
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=175380=edit
Example file

(In reply to Dieter from comment #5)
> Perhaps it wold be useful to add information to following help page:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/page_break.
> html?=WRITER=WIN
> Some informations are provided here:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/01/0401.
> html?=WRITER=WIN

This probably more productive approach.. After reading you're comment I recall
nagged about this from different angels and with success various people
(UX/developers). 

I see inserting or changing an existing page from Portrait to Landscape (and
back) as the most common case 

Topics of most interest (from my perspective)
* Changing the first page to 'Landscape' where the next pages should be
Portrait
* Insert a new page, with different orientation between existing pages
* Change orientation of existing page in a document without affecting the reset

The issue being that you have multiple tools which look a good candidate at the
start, but don't work out as expected.

No go
* Format -> Page Style -> Page Tab -> Landscape (makes the default Landscape
* Format -> Page Style -> Organizer Tab -> Next Style -> Landscape (not
intended to be used; Word Model?
* Double clicking a page style inside sidebar with cursor some page -> Problem
of the scope of the change.. Not limited to single page but some range (if page
break has no explicit style, those will be included too)

Route A; Insert -> Manual Page break -> and using explicit page style was most
productive route.
Route B: CTRL+A Enter -> Soft break.  Next Format -> Paragraph -> Text flow tab
->  Check With page style -> Landscape 

---
Side-kick
Another topic to include is DOCX conversion.. Defining a style for a page
explicitly creates pretty unworkable end result. Every page getting a unique
Style :-(; so Page Style Portrait applied to different pages becomes
"Converted1" for page 1 "Converted2" for page to " Converted 3" for page 3 and
so on. [Save attached file to DOCX; and look at Format -> Paragraph -> Text
flow tab. 

Consequence A: The usage of styles being ruined. There is no single page style
(Landscape) anymore where can change something which affects all pages with
same style (every page gets unique style] 
Consequence B: The generic name makes really uninformative what so special
about the style. [No clue if DOCX being capable to store style names; doesn't
look that way] LibO Page Style model isn't MSO approach :-(. And hell for
intercompatibility

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

2021-09-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136495

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED

--- Comment #5 from Dieter  ---
I confirm the behaviour, but I don't think, that this is a bug:

Attached file has a page break, but this is a page break with no style (you can
see this, if you edit page break). So it takes always the page style from the
previous page. Therefore it changes to portrait, if you enter page break with
default page style.

If you assign page style landscape to the page break in the document, you'll
get the expected result, if you insert page vbreak with default page style

=> RESOLVED NOTABUG

Feel free to change it back with a short reasoning, if you disagree.

Perhaps it wold be useful to add information to following help page:
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/page_break.html?=WRITER=WIN
Some informations are provided here:
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/swriter/01/0401.html?=WRITER=WIN

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

2021-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136495

Telesto  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|1   |0
 Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED

--- Comment #4 from Telesto  ---
Still there 
Version: 7.3.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: d5e55d204b71710eb5eb5d2c683dd6698626df3c
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: en-US (nl_NL); UI: en-US
Calc: CL

UX topic; not totally certain if this has been handled already; I find the page
style handling inconvenient, but well I argued a lot about that already

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

2021-09-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Telesto  ---
Created attachment 175298
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

2021-09-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from QA Administrators  ---
Dear Telesto,

This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least
6 months. Please provide the requested information as soon as
possible and mark the bug as UNCONFIRMED. Due to regular bug
tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDINFO status with
no change in 30 days the QA team will close the bug as INSUFFICIENTDATA
due to lack of needed information.

For more information about our NEEDINFO policy please read the
wiki located here:
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If you have already provided the requested information, please
mark the bug as UNCONFIRMED so that the QA team knows that the
bug is ready to be confirmed.

Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

2021-03-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

2021-03-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dieter  changed:

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 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
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--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
Telesto, it seems, that nobody could confirm this bug since more than one year.
So I‘d like to ask, if it is still reproducible for you. Could you please try
to reproduce it with a master build from
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/current.html? I have set the
bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug
is still present in the latest version.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136495] Hard to insert a page with different in between pages without affecting page style of other pages

2020-09-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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