[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

Justin L  changed:

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--- Comment #8 from Justin L  ---
P.S. If you DID set Converted1 for the first page, you would re-introduce the
kind of problems just fixed in bug 107555.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-12-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

Justin L  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #7 from Justin L  ---
Never using "Default Page Style" in DOCX would be considered even a larger bug
- and that is the only sane alternative. Based on that and comment 3, NOTABUG.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108771
[Bug 108771] [META] DOCX (OOXML) page-related issues
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

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--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #4)
> Lets add Heiko, not assuming he has the magic answer, except sticking with
> the current implementation..

Why not stick to the current implementation? :-)

Seriously, I have no idea about these back-end internals. Neither run MSO and
can test it. And I don't see how UX can help here.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

--- Comment #5 from Justin L  ---
> Based on ODT perspective, I would make more sense to call the first stye
> 'converted'. Instead of having a Default Style in ODT not matching Default
> style in DOCX, simply because DOCX export..
That is a somewhat false conclusion. A user is capable of modifying the Default
Page Style in ODT - so it is possible to have an ODT landscape default page,
just as what you see in your DOCX example. Just think of the DOCX user as
having modified the default page style, and then there is no problem here at
all.


> Of course not sure how this would be received by the MSO users.
Like I said, there are no names for MSO users, so nothing here will have any
impact on them. There is only first, second, third section for MSO users.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

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--- Comment #4 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Justin L from comment #3)
> It could. But then no DOCX document would ever use the default page style
> format, which doesn't seem like a good idea either.
> 
> DOCX has no concept of page styles, or page style names. So on import the
> initial page setup is considered to be the default one.  (initial being the
> first non-title, or non-first style).
> 
> I don't see any value in complicating the import by trying to identify
> certain "traits" that should not be considered appropriate for a
> default-page-style. In most cases, the main style is used right from the
> beginning, and thus in the typical document there is no conflict or
> confusion.
> 
> (In reply to Telesto from comment #2)
> > @Justin
> > Can the first page style not simply be a 'converted' style. Instead of
> > 'converting' they default page style. As happens with second page break

In this case they whole Default Style is flipped around. The Next Page has
Default style, but is called Converted.. 

But yes, of course, likely most document start with 'Default'. Not sure what
Master Style stuff does. And if you supposed to change the default style, or
should always apply a different style (in some models, you could lock the
default style as unchangeable/ similar what I more or less proposed with
landscape style which can be actually set to portrait; being counterintuitive
too). But that's already workflow topic.

Based on ODT perspective, I would make more sense to call the first stye
'converted'. Instead of having a Default Style in ODT not matching Default
style in DOCX, simply because DOCX export..

Of course not sure how this would be received by the MSO users. Different topic
is of course the 'evil' style names. Being called converted (and the lovely
idea to 'generate' a new style pretty often (even if you used the same style).
But that are all other matters, discussed before.. and also complicated :-(

Lets add Heiko, not assuming he has the magic answer, except sticking with the
current implementation..

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

--- Comment #3 from Justin L  ---
It could. But then no DOCX document would ever use the default page style
format, which doesn't seem like a good idea either.

DOCX has no concept of page styles, or page style names. So on import the
initial page setup is considered to be the default one.  (initial being the
first non-title, or non-first style).

I don't see any value in complicating the import by trying to identify certain
"traits" that should not be considered appropriate for a default-page-style. In
most cases, the main style is used right from the beginning, and thus in the
typical document there is no conflict or confusion.

(In reply to Telesto from comment #2)
> @Justin
> Can the first page style not simply be a 'converted' style. Instead of
> 'converting' they default page style. As happens with second page break

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

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--- Comment #2 from Telesto  ---
@Justin
Can the first page style not simply be a 'converted' style. Instead of
'converting' they default page style. As happens with second page break

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136741] Default page style rotation changes to landscape after DOCX export

2020-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136741

--- Comment #1 from Telesto  ---
Created attachment 165476
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=165476=edit
Example file

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