[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139398] IMAGE: Copy and paste a cropped image from LO to Tunderbird or MSWord has uncropped image as result

2021-02-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139398

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139398] IMAGE: Copy and paste a cropped image from LO to Tunderbird or MSWord has uncropped image as result

2021-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139398

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82
   ||951
 Resolution|DUPLICATE   |---
 Status|RESOLVED|NEW

--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Admittedly it's how MSO works, the cut image is copied instead of the original.
The point is that you have to decide on copy not paste what goes into the
clipboard. Otherwise the target application needs to decide, and that's not the
fact. 

It would be quite disturbing to request a decision once you copy something
(even when only applied to modified graphics). What I could imagine is the
"compact" function, if you think it makes sense to separate this from other
properties let's keep this ticket (the more people on CC or duplicates the more
attractive is a topic).

UI wise I would search at the image properties dialog for a function "Compact"
that finalizes the current modifications (crop, rotation, scaling). It clashes
with linked images and should be disabled in this case.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139398] IMAGE: Copy and paste a cropped image from LO to Tunderbird or MSWord has uncropped image as result

2021-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139398

--- Comment #7 from simons...@belgacom.net ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #2)
> I confirm it with
> 
> Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
> Build ID: 9f9798f07f0b56ae474f31ded671cc8da598d244
> CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL:
> win
> Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
> Calc: threaded
> 
> Steps to reproduce
> 1. Insert an image in a document
> 2. crop image (context menu of image => crop)
> 3. Copy image
> 4. Open thunderbird an paste image
> 
> Actual result: 
> Pasted image is uncropped.
> 
> I agree with expected result from comment 0, but I'm not sure about it
> => Design-Team for further input and decision

at dieter  by  wim
-concern-1 security & privacy
  after further evaluation in my opinion whatever solution should automatcally
restrict the copy of an image to WYSWYG as a requirement,
i understand that this does mean ELEMINATE attributes 
   rational: in 99% of cases - users that did modify an imgae (crop or compress
or . . . ) do intentionly remove the not-visible content

compare this operation with usage of image-processing software,
 - then one uses a step/step method such that:
   -- in each step you manipulate the image with ability to evaluatie/undo the
effect untill one is happy,
-- then we hit the "save" image button, NO way back

the intention for 82951 was to reduce the total size of the document,
so after the manipulation the image is WYSWYG
from the comment by dieter i do understand that 82951 is not solved,
- looking forward for the enhancement  -  wim

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139398] IMAGE: Copy and paste a cropped image from LO to Tunderbird or MSWord has uncropped image as result

2021-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139398

--- Comment #6 from simons...@belgacom.net ---
@heiko  tietze,  
added comment, about the functionalities,

-concern-1 security & privacy
  after further evaluation in my opinion whatever solution should automatcally
restrict the copy of an image to WYSWYG as a requirement,
i understand that this does mean ELEMINATE attributes 
   rational: in 99% of cases - users that did modify an imgae (crop or compress
or . . . ) do intentionly remove the not-visible content
compare this operation with usage of image-processing software,
 - then one uses a step/step method such that:
   -- in each step you manipulate the image with ability to evaluatie/undo the
effect untill one is happy,
-- then we hit the "save" image button, NO way back

the intention for 82951 was to reduce the total size of the document,
so after the manipulation the image is WYSWYG
from the comment by dieter i do understand that 82951 is not solved,
- looking forward for the enhancement  -  wim

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139398] IMAGE: Copy and paste a cropped image from LO to Tunderbird or MSWord has uncropped image as result

2021-01-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139398

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Sorry, should have read more carefully. Cropping is not finalized unless the
document is compacted (Minimize Presentation in Impress, requested for Writer
in bug 82951).
Don't think the confirmation box on copy is accepted by the majority of users
since you typically copy for one position to another and want to keep the
cropping as it is. So let's make it a duplicate to raise the importance of the
other report. Feel free to reopen if you disagree.

Besides, this image manipulation could perhaps also be done with an extension.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 82951 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139398] IMAGE: Copy and paste a cropped image from LO to Tunderbird or MSWord has uncropped image as result

2021-01-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139398

--- Comment #4 from simons...@belgacom.net ---
@heiko.tietze,
the reported issue was that with LibreOff- when using copy (ctrl+c)
the copied image included all attributes 
AND the image had its original format (eg the cropping was not applied.

in my humble opinion, the standard expectation when using the copy is
that one copies what you see AND nothing more,
BECAUSE the user/author of a document/email intentionly removed info
that the destination/reader should not see AND even should not be able to
recuperate,

bij doing some experiments I found that: 
-A- when copyinng an image across platforms (software. . . )
only the visible info/pat was retained - the remainder is removed.
-B- in contrary the copy of image from one MSword doc to another
did retain all attributes  <-- EVEN this is not intended
the better approach is that in the copy-paste nvironment
the basis operaton is - remove all modification and only keep the WYS part,
if needed one should have at the "copy" command an option to retain the
attributes  
eg in MSword  there is a paste-options menu

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139398] IMAGE: Copy and paste a cropped image from LO to Tunderbird or MSWord has uncropped image as result

2021-01-20 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139398

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
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   Severity|normal  |enhancement
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Expectation is to take the image including styling attributes such as crop. The
image must not be changed but the crop parameter applied so uncroping would be
possible.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 139398] IMAGE: Copy and paste a cropped image from LO to Tunderbird or MSWord has uncropped image as result

2021-01-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139398

Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Copy-image to MS-word or|IMAGE: Copy and paste a
   |Thunderbird has unepected   |cropped image from LO to
   |limit   |Tunderbird or MSWord has
   ||uncropped image as result
 CC||dgp-m...@gmx.de,
   ||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
   ||.freedesktop.org
 Blocks||108280
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|

--- Comment #2 from Dieter  ---
I confirm it with

Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64)
Build ID: 9f9798f07f0b56ae474f31ded671cc8da598d244
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19042; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: threaded

Steps to reproduce
1. Insert an image in a document
2. crop image (context menu of image => crop)
3. Copy image
4. Open thunderbird an paste image

Actual result: 
Pasted image is uncropped.

I agree with expected result from comment 0, but I'm not sure about it
=> Design-Team for further input and decision


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108280
[Bug 108280] [META] Image crop bugs and enhancements
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