[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140240] Disable the storing printer inside document (PrinterName in settings XML) of ODT (leaving it empty) by default (or removal)

2021-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140240

--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #6)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> > > (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> > > > Have you tried to reset file > properties?
> 
> No, but now I did :-).. And doesn't make any difference..

This is definitely a problem to solve anyway.

The reason for storing the printer data with the document is to allow the
manual configuration of print settings to be stored per-document, which may be
super-useful for non-default non-trivial cases like printers needing special
setup for brochure printing. (No idea how working/broken the current state is;
just describing the idea.) Tools that may require non-default printer
processing often have such things (Autocad/DWG comes to mind); some (no idea
what proportion though) LibreOffice users definitely may take advantage from
this.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140240] Disable the storing printer inside document (PrinterName in settings XML) of ODT (leaving it empty) by default (or removal)

2021-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #9 from Telesto  ---
Practical perspective: bug 42673 comment 17

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>From bug 144267 comment 1: Uwe Auer 2021-09-02 11:21:52 UTC
This sounds like known issue with loading printer settings on file opening
while printer is offline and Libreoffice (i.e. Calc) waits for Windows print
spooler response. See bug tdf#42673. Please try to disable Tools -> Options ->
Load/Save -> General -> [] Load printer settings with the document.

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2021-09-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 140240] Disable the storing printer inside document (PrinterName in settings XML) of ODT (leaving it empty) by default (or removal)

2021-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> Uncheck "[ ] Apply user data", Reset Properties and Save. But... this does
> not clean up   
> Having difficulties to test the issue since I have only one printer
> connected. Printing a new document to PDF keeps this printer as default
> (probably set via File > Printer Settings). It seems to me that we mix two
> features.

I'm printing to a PDFPrinter.. doesn't matter. It might matter if you press
save after print.. {Print doesn't trigger a change, which is weird if you
desire to save printer status inside a document..[


> 
> If you talk about the number of print outs shown on the properties dialog,
> this should be cleared with the reset function. 

No

> If this is about the default printer, I cannot test how it behaves on 
> different workstations/users. Would > expect the printer to follow the 
> workstation setting, or what is stored in > the document. If the stored 
> parameter doesn't match the current environment > it takes the default.

Well, say you have the Printer with same name by accident.. however in a
different environment.. take lovely network printer with hell of a lag.. that
will be the default (if stored in file).

If there is no match, it's probably obsolete..


> Don't see an issue here, maybe privacy.
Well printers (or maybe I'm confusing the Printer spoolers mess) are an attack
vector. Printer means drivers.. drivers means bugs.. bugs means.. access
point.. Obviously a long shot :-)

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Major point.. What's the history related to this feature. What was the
initially idea and context. And does it match today's world.

It might had a propose (sense), but does it still hold true?

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2021-09-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Uncheck "[ ] Apply user data", Reset Properties and Save. But... this does not
clean up  Printer Settings). It seems to me that we mix two features.

If you talk about the number of print outs shown on the properties dialog, this
should be cleared with the reset function. If this is about the default
printer, I cannot test how it behaves on different workstations/users. Would
expect the printer to follow the workstation setting, or what is stored in the
document. If the stored parameter doesn't match the current environment it
takes the default.

Don't see an issue here, maybe privacy.

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2021-08-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> > (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> > > Have you tried to reset file > properties?

No, but now I did :-).. And doesn't make any difference..

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2021-08-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Telesto from comment #4)
> And well I have no idea how to avoid it from happening (if you dislike it)

this? v

> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> > Have you tried to reset file > properties?

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2021-08-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Telesto  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> Use case is clear to me: convenience feature in case of more than one
> printer (eg, b/w and color) or formatting prerequisite (eg. letter vs. a4).
> Have you tried to reset file > properties?

Not denying use-cases :-). Is more debatable from privacy perspective, IMHO. 

If you use a document only in your working station is obviously works. However
moving stuff across different departments or the internet, you might not want
to share that information

And well I have no idea how to avoid it from happening (if you dislike it)

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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Use case is clear to me: convenience feature in case of more than one printer
(eg, b/w and color) or formatting prerequisite (eg. letter vs. a4). Have you
tried to reset file > properties?

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2021-08-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Telesto  ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #1)
> but I can't decide, if this should be considered as a bug or not.

Lets add UX-advise

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2021-08-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
I confirm the described behaviour with

Version: 7.2.0.3 (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 2a7ea282da28d665a7dc086360567b4aea27bf08
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19043; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL

but I can't decide, if this should be considered as a bug or not.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108800
[Bug 108800] [META] Print related issues
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