[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 141867] Explain "Type" and "Insert Reference To" elements with tooltips

2021-05-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141867

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #6 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #3)
> In general, I find it disturbing when tooltips pop up in any place...
> The "Type" list should be self-explanatory... 

So no tooltip on the frame label "Type" and "Insert reference to" and with bug
141869 we introduce better terms for the list content. Putting all together
your take is WF - and I agree.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 141867] Explain "Type" and "Insert Reference To" elements with tooltips

2021-05-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141867

--- Comment #5 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Thomas Lendo from comment #4)
> In general, I find it disturbing when tooltips pop up in any place of the
> UI.

But aren't you the "odd person out" about this point?? I mean, they shouldn't
pop up immediately, but tooltips are widely used in LO

> It's well known for example in toolbars. Especially I didn't like
> tooltips in lists where the tooltip pops up during moving the mouse of the
> list items automatically and then the tooltip itself covers other list items
> so that they are not visible anymore. Then you have to move away the mouse
> to have an full overview again ...

I'd say that's more about tooltip delay and behavior on movement than its very
existence.

> 
> The "Type" list should be self-explanatory in my opinion. Is it really
> necessary to have tooltips here? I doubt.

It _should_, but it isn't; and even if we rephrased it as I suggest it would
still be somewhat cryptic. I'm suggesting we compensate for that somewhat.


> The "Insert reference to" list is different. Here I support a better
> description as it's not really well classifiable. (What's the difference of
> Number, Number (no context) and Number (full context)? Why is the most
> important list item "Reference" not on top of the list and why is it called
> so? etc.)

So, my rename bug 141869 indeed touches on those issues, but same point -
accesible explanation is called for IMHO.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 141867] Explain "Type" and "Insert Reference To" elements with tooltips

2021-05-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141867

Thomas Lendo  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14
   ||1869

--- Comment #4 from Thomas Lendo  ---
In general, I find it disturbing when tooltips pop up in any place of the UI.
It's well known for example in toolbars. Especially I didn't like tooltips in
lists where the tooltip pops up during moving the mouse of the list items
automatically and then the tooltip itself covers other list items so that they
are not visible anymore. Then you have to move away the mouse to have an full
overview again ...

The "Type" list should be self-explanatory in my opinion. Is it really
necessary to have tooltips here? I doubt.

The "Insert reference to" list is different. Here I support a better
description as it's not really well classifiable. (What's the difference of
Number, Number (no context) and Number (full context)? Why is the most
important list item "Reference" not on top of the list and why is it called so?
etc.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 141867] Explain "Type" and "Insert Reference To" elements with tooltips

2021-05-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141867

Thomas Lendo  changed:

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 CC||thomas.le...@gmail.com

--- Comment #3 from Thomas Lendo  ---
In general, I find it disturbing when tooltips pop up in any place of the UI.
It's well known for example in toolbars. Especially I didn't like tooltips in
lists where the tooltip pops up during moving the mouse of the list items
automatically and then the tooltip itself covers other list items so that they
are not visible anymore. Then you have to move away the mouse to have an full
overview again ...

The "Type" list should be self-explanatory in my opinion. Is it really
necessary to have tooltips here? I doubt.

The "Insert reference to" list is different. Here I support a better
description as it's not really well classifiable. (What's the difference of
Number, Number (no context) and Number (full context)? Why is the most
important list item "Reference" not on top of the list and why is it called so?
etc.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 141867] Explain "Type" and "Insert Reference To" elements with tooltips

2021-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141867

--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1)
> Tooltips are good to explain very short labels but must not replace the help. 

Agreed, but those are short labels, which could use a 1-sentence/2-sentence
explanation. Not suggesting anything beyond that.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 141867] Explain "Type" and "Insert Reference To" elements with tooltips

2021-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141867

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 CC||sdc.bla...@youmail.dk

--- Comment #1 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Wouldn't add too much of the documentation into the program. Tooltips are good
to explain very short labels but must not replace the help. Other opinions?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 141867] Explain "Type" and "Insert Reference To" elements with tooltips

2021-04-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141867

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Depends on|141858  |
 Blocks||141858


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=141858
[Bug 141858] [META] Cross-references dialog issues
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