[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=148320

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner,
   ||easyHack, skillCpp, topicUI
   Severity|normal  |enhancement
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
The topic was on the agenda of the design meeting.

The alternative to just clearing the text field is to have a checkbox "[x] Use
title" and enable the input respectively. It improves consistency, clarifies
the behavior for novice user, and makes the label "Type and Title" more
appropriate. Plus, we have enough space and the enhancement is an easy hack.

Code pointer:
* add the checkbox to sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/tocindexpage.ui
* add variables and logic to sw/source/ui/index/cnttab.cxx; likely in
FillTOXDescription() rDesc.SetTitle(m_xTitleED->get_text());

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #8 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)

> Don't think so. And, as Dieter pointed out, we have a preview.

The preview helps me clearly, indeed.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Cor Nouws  changed:

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Version|7.3.2.2 release |Inherited From OOo
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #6)
> ... the user is unlikely to realize that an empty title means no-title

Don't think so. And, as Dieter pointed out, we have a preview.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> I don't see this pattern, meaning consistency in terms of input fields that
> are in use if a checkbox is checked or otherwise mean empty content.

Ah. So, I didn't mean consistency in terms of an input field, but rather
consistency in terms of dichotomy between non-empty and non-existence:

Footer can be empty
Header can be empty
Footnote   can be empty, sort of
Endnotecan be empty, sort of
Heading paragraph  can be empty
Commentcan be empty
Captioncan be empty
ToC title  can't be empty

Given all the rest, the user is unlikely to realize that an empty title means
no-title, and would waste time trying to look for a checkbox which doesn't
exist.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #2)
> ... is not consistent with other behavior in LO.

I don't see this pattern, meaning consistency in terms of input fields that are
in use if a checkbox is checked or otherwise mean empty content.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> I don't see a pattern.

Can you explain that phrase?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Better compare with caption and if you leave the field empty you get an empty
caption. Wouldn't expect anything else. Admittedly, the checkbox is convenient
(and we have space) but I don't see a pattern.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
(In reply to Dieter from comment #1)
> Preview also shows no title, if title-entry is empty.

This is non-intuitive, and is not consistent with other behavior in LO. You can
have an empty footer, an empty paragraph, or an empty caption. So you're not
supposed to have to assume that "empty title" = "no title".

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dieter  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|7.4.0.0 alpha0+ Master  |7.3.2.2 release
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 Whiteboard| QA:needsComment|
   Keywords||needsUXEval
 Blocks|89606   |122497

--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
I confirm the described behaviour, but I don't think, it's a bug. Preview also
shows no title, if title-entry is empty.

cc: design-team for further input and decision


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89606
[Bug 89606] [META] Table of Contents and Indexes bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122497
[Bug 122497] [META] Table of Contents and Indexes dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 148320] Explicit toggle for ToC/Index title

2022-04-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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