[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=149153

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Recommendation for solution in comment 5 and 6, removing UX.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #6 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Regarding the feedback: 
> Adding some dummy text into the section is easy to overlook.
In the "Edit section" dialog, it is possible to give a "label" or "title" (the
control is not labeled, so I do not know what it should be called), where this
label is what is shown in Navigator. Perhaps that "label" could also be
included on/in the section in the document -- when the link has not been
updated -- instead of the current "blank".  (That would be an adequate
resolution to OP).

Not sure how it would be easy to overlook, given that -- as attachment shows --
nothing is shown in a section that is not updated. While in this case, the
labels would be what the user has chosen in the "Edit section" dialog.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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--- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze  ---
If you reject to update the links when opening a master document it won't show
any content. The option "Tools > Options > Writer > Update links when loading"
has an effect when set to "Never" and does not ask for an update. But "Always"
does not suppress the confirmation box defaulting to Yes.

Ordinary documents with a linked file in a section show the same confirmation
box with the same issue but have some cached content saved so the previous
state of the linked file is shown.


First of all, the option seems to be broken (dup of bug 128498). "Always"
should never ask and default to Yes, Never should never ask and default to No. 
I cannot confirm bug 43786 claiming the option is document specific (did switch
without saving the document). 
Bug 135508 requests to always update was rejected with to the security argument
(but reopened).


Regarding the feedback: whether we show some cached content or not- if the data
is not updated we should give a clue. Bug 43784 suggest an infobar, not a bad
idea. Adding some dummy text into the section is easy to overlook. The better
solution is to show an overlay like known from media that wont play unless
clicked.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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2022-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #4 from QA Administrators  ---
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #3 from sdc.bla...@youmail.dk ---
Created attachment 180615
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=180615=edit
empty sections in a master document

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Isn't this the option "Update links when loading" set to off for security
> reasons?
No.  Not sure what you are thinking about here, but have tested these options
with a master document.

Setting to "Always", there is still always a confirmation dialog about whether
to update links.  Setting to "Never", there is no confirmation dialog.

But the OP is about better labeling of the empty sections in a master document.
Have attached an actual example here to illustrate -- where I have used "text"
fields to at least give some overview.  (as already noted, can use Navigator,
but enhancement request in OP is to have something in the empty section
containers.)

(the details in the OP were only to show attempts to "address" this request
with existing features. As noted in confirming comment, another approach might
be needed.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Isn't this the option "Update links when loading" set to off for security
reasons?
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.3/en-GB/text/shared/optionen/01040900.html?=SHARED=MAC

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-05 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #1 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #0)
> Test to illustrate this point:  
> a. In master document, edit section (unprotect, add some text in
> section, 
>but keep link). 
> b. Write protect section again and Save master document.
> c. Update link (to section)
> 
>   Result:  saved text is gone, contents of linked file appear.
> 

I confirm tis behaviour with

Version: 7.4.0.0.alpha1+ (x64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 5423dfb8549743bd5045b6e3b1ebad7980e62965
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19044; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB
Calc: CL

Additional informations
If you change number of columns in a section, new number of columns apears
after reopening, but it isn't part of the linked document (maybe expected)

So I agree with the problem, but I'm not sure, if a we can solve this problem
only with labelling sections.

At least related to bug 118122.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-06-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 149153] Allow / Include labels in sections with linked files in master document

2022-05-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107738
[Bug 107738] [META] Section bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107805
[Bug 107805] [META] Writer master document issues
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