[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 Rafael Lima changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |ASSIGNED Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |rafael.palma.l...@gmail.com |desktop.org | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95 ||279 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda |.freedesktop.org|tion.org, ||mentoring@documentfoundatio ||n.org, ||stephane.guillou@libreoffic ||e.org Ever confirmed|0 |1 Keywords|needsUXEval |difficultyBeginner, ||easyHack, skillDesign, ||topicUI --- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze --- To conclude the input, we should hide the command at the toolbar but keep it at the notebookbar since this UI usually runs with sidebar closed. Code pointer in comment 4. We have two META tickets for table design deck, bug 128570 Table panel of the Properties deck/tab of the Writer sidebar and bug 112630 Table design content panel of the Properties deck/tab of the sidebar. Both deal with just one bug. => QA, please check this The dedicated table panel is requested in bug 95279. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 --- Comment #10 from Rafael Lima --- > I believe that moving the table design panel to its own deck will largely > resolve the confusion. +1 to this idea. With the new Table Design functionalities I think it deserves its own sidebar deck, which could receive all the commands that are currently available in the toolbar. We could also make the preview area a bit taller (at least one row taller). > Such behavior at least gives the user a clue on how the command is supposed > to work. As for the "Table Design" button, I think it should be kept in the toolbar, provided that it acts like a toggle button that shows/hide the deck. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 --- Comment #9 from Maxim Monastirsky --- We have few other commands that "just open the sidebar", as can be seen with 'git grep ::sfx2::sidebar::Sidebar::ShowPanel'. What makes this case particularly confusing in my opinion are 2 things: 1) If the sidebar is already open (which is the default configuration for Impress/Draw), the command does nothing on subsequent click, giving the impression that the command does not work. This in unlike the other commands that act as a toggle and collapse the sidebar if it's open. Such behavior at least gives the user a clue on how the command is supposed to work. 2) The table design panel doesn't have its own deck. Instead, it's hosted in the Properties deck with a lot of other formatting controls. It might be confusing for a user to click on a "table design" function, and get a lot of character and paragraph controls in response. Moreover, it's buried in the bottom of the deck, which typically will be off-screen with lower resolutions. And the panel itself might be actually collapsed. I believe that moving the table design panel to its own deck will largely resolve the confusion. And it should allow us to keep it accessible even when no table is selected (like it was before the panel was moved to the sidebar), which might be proven to be useful given the new editing capabilities. Imagine a user that wants to define few table styles in a template, but don't want the template to actually include a table. With the current workflow, it's required to temporarily insert a table, then edit the styles, then remove the table. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added CC||momonas...@gmail.com --- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze --- Maxim, with your latest patch I could imagine to have a menubutton for the functions at the sidebar. Or just remove the button/function. What do you think? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 --- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze --- The function just opens the sidebar and we have other commands for this. Introducing a function to show the available table designs in a widget for use in a toolbar sounds like a nice enhancement. But the current function is something else. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 --- Comment #6 from Timur --- (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > I think we should remove the command. But icon is obviously used. What would be another way to come to Table Design? And why not make it dropdown, if someone is not using Sidebar? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 --- Comment #5 from Rafael Lima --- FTR if this command gets removed, the patch should also remove it from the Notebookbar in Impress and Draw. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 --- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze --- .uno:TableDesign / SID_TableDesign runs https://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/sd/source/ui/table/tablefunction.cxx?r=8611f6e2#233 which just opens the sidebar. I think we should remove the command. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 --- Comment #3 from Timur --- I agree that this should not be worked upon until proper table styles but I don't see how this will be fixed then. Same icon will remain to just open Sidebar. So I'd confirm this to be dropdown as Lowest enh. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 Rafael Lima changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rafael.palma.l...@gmail.com Blocks||100366 --- Comment #2 from Rafael Lima --- This isn't a bug per se. The "Table Design" command simply opens the Table Design sidebar. If it is already open, then nothing happens. (In reply to Timur from comment #1) > But let's hear UX on changing this icon to dropdown with table designs. I'm not sure this would be the way to go, because the current implementation of Table Design needs a deeper rework. Basically, the available set of table styles is hardcoded (see bug 34391, bug 38213 and bug 74142). There's also bug 101802 that requests an integration of Table Design across Writer / Draw / Impress, which seems the better approach. So I believe that when these enhancements have been made, this bug report will be automatically fixed. The main question is whether any dev will take on these huge tasks. I am an avid user of Impress Tables and I can tell that table support in Impress/Draw is very lacking and buggy. Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100366 [Bug 100366] [META] Impress/Draw table bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 151185] Impress: Table design icon without function
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=151185 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added Priority|medium |low OS|Linux (All) |All Summary|Icon without function |Impress: Table design icon ||without function Severity|normal |enhancement Keywords||needsUXEval CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org --- Comment #1 from Timur --- Icon opens sidebar with table design. But let's hear UX on changing this icon to dropdown with table designs. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
