[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

--- Comment #12 from Maverick  ---
> The text could be "This version is no longer 
> supported" along with buttons "Update", "Show again", Don't bother again".

And what will happen when a user presses "Update" button on windows?

- Will it get you to the download page?
- Or will it start an update process (download+install)?

Users would surely expect the last!
But there is no foundation for that to happen (and apparently no will either) -
see bug 54242

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-09-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |heiko.tietze@documentfounda
   |.freedesktop.org|tion.org
   Keywords|needsUXEval |
 Blocks|103202  |

--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
We discussed the topic in the design meeting.

We do show the info in the (auto-)updater on Windows, and Linux repositories
prefer their own schedule. Plus, the About dialog is not an incentive per se
and probably not what users expect.

However, it might be good to inform users beyond this and show an infobar when
a new major is available. The text could be "This version is no longer
supported" along with buttons "Update", "Show again", Don't bother again".


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103202
[Bug 103202] [META] About dialog bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-06-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

--- Comment #10 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #9)

The upgrade prompt already is conditional, and it is disabled in distro repos.
If not combined into the prompt, we could still reuse the same branding info.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-06-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

--- Comment #9 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Showing an information like 

Version 7.5.4.2... 
You are on the latest version, find nightly builds here
(maybe pointing to developer versions is too much)

and

Version 7.4.3... 
The latest public version is 7.5.4.2

sounds reasonable. But I wonder if we should add the link to TDF since the
application might be installed via app store, package manager keeping it
intentionally "stable", or provided from a third party.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-06-17 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

--- Comment #8 from Mike Kaganski  ---
Well, possibly this could be combined with the existing upgrade prompt then?
Before EOL, it could simply offer an update; after EOL, the balloon tip could
include the EOL notification.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-06-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

Eyal Rozenberg  changed:

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   Keywords||needsUXEval
 CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists
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--- Comment #7 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
I believe that, in addition to a more "permanent" reminder somewhere
non-intrusive (e.g. in the About Dialog), we could consider a one-time
intrusive prompt (which, if dismissed, never comes up again) - when LO
determines that updating is important (whatever that criterion might be).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-03-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Maverick  changed:

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   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-02-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

--- Comment #6 from Maverick  ---
(In reply to Loren Amelang from comment #5)

> Was there some glitch in the update check? Is it fixed now? Obviously I
> won't trust it for awhile...

No glitch! The thing just... never worked!

See:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54242
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=68274
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=74934

(but don't talk too much about it... or someone will just tell you to shut up
:(

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-02-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

--- Comment #5 from Loren Amelang  ---
I'm not seeing anything in Bugzilla about this: 

I had LibreOffice_7.3.2_Win_x64.msi installed, with a nasty problem of the text
import preview being invisible in dark modes. For months I checked Help ->
Check for Updates, and it always told me none were available. 

I happened to see a note in the Fediverse, went to your website, and found
LibreOffice_7.5.0_Win_x86-64.msi - with my problem beautifully fixed! And a
_way_ better dark mode! 

Was there some glitch in the update check? Is it fixed now? Obviously I won't
trust it for awhile...

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-01-31 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153153

--- Comment #4 from Maverick  ---
Wouldn't it be even great if users would be automatically updated/upgraded?

I mean, we already have a dialog for auto-updating 
(that does not work in anyway and is, IMO, giving a very negative image about
the product - it's 2023!)

So why not put some effort in that and get this work finished?

I believe it's a lot of work, but from it we could:

- Get most users on the latest version (that would eliminate old bugs being
reported)
- It would help getting the "business" version even more tested and stable
- It would provide all that a regular user is already expecting from a 2023
product (every piece of software i use auto-updates itself except for LO)
- (Other advantages...)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 153153] Incentivize users to use the latest version via the UI

2023-01-23 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Adolfo Jayme Barrientos  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Improve the balloon |Incentivize users to use
   |notification’s text to urge |the latest version via the
   |users to use the latest |UI
   |version |

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