[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 --- Comment #8 from markbal...@gmail.com --- Thanks, I like to hear the philosophy, I'm all about this and if I thought LibreOffice was clumsy and ugly I would not use it or take the time to make the input I did. I will do as you have suggested and try to identify specific use cases that can be discussed. As MSO forces its user base into saas' fully invasive and dollar sucking model and as is well documented working in partnership with 3rd parties to access, share and watch user data and activity, I'm all about getting users away from that thief of privacy. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 --- Comment #7 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to markballew from comment #6) > Sorry some have taken offense... No worries, no one has taken offense. MSO is doing great work and it would be nice to realize many ideas. But LibreOffice is a different product and not just the ugly copycat. Besides being a community project, we put freedom paramount and we allow full insights into the documents. Not to speak about standards, inclusion, education, etc. So while your statement is not wrong you should refer to specific use cases. And while LibreOffice might be seen as ugly and clumsy you will find solutions that are superior to MSO. Help us (actually yourself *g*) to make the other parts as efficient and beautiful. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 --- Comment #6 from markbal...@gmail.com --- Sorry some have taken offense, I certainly could have worded some things better, but I don't believe it is copying, looking at it from that perspective would be like saying lets not do what works and do something different. There is a logic of navigation and user experience that MS has invested millions maybe billions into research and analysis for their UX, for beyond the capacity of this project, it is just a fact of life that the world has been mentally programmed to think in their paradigm. My point here is that from a user adoption perspective it would be wise to wow a new user instead of confuse them. New users rarely read through the guides, they just want to jump in and use it, that's because they have work to do and not time to waste. Even web ux design has fallen into standard navigation paradigms, this is just what it is. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 Heiko Tietze changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED --- Comment #5 from Heiko Tietze --- (In reply to markballew from comment #0) > I recommend that you start a new team effort to map navigation patterns... One could also argue copying is the end of creativity. Anyway, the big advantage of LibreOffice as an open source project is that it is community-driven. You can join here talk and get heard. The way images are placed in documents is a complex topic and discussed in several tickets (will make this on a duplicate). The second part how text flows around is related, and has as well its duplicates. We organize reports (whether bugs or enhancements) in META tickets, and bug 87740 holds a lot of information. You are very welcome to join the discussions. *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 146445 *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|NOTABUG |--- Severity|normal |enhancement Keywords||needsUXEval Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED CC||libreoffice-ux-advise@lists ||.freedesktop.org --- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote --- Sure BZ is fine for that, we'll make it an actual enhancement, A.k.a RFE as there is no bug here, and there is literally nothing actionable in this request! Your specific issue was with the handling of image anchor--clearly documented, RTM. Flesh your suggestion out, I'm certainly not going to put any effort into what IMHO is a complete waste of design and dev effort. But, would strongly suggest you spend some time working in LibreOffice before you start saying it needs to work like MS Office does, oh, and again please RTM--there are links from the Help menu, and a useful WiKi. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 --- Comment #3 from markbal...@gmail.com --- There was no other option to submit a suggestion except to log a bug, I"m not sure how you get feedback from the public to make the product better, maybe its not something you do? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 --- Comment #2 from markbal...@gmail.com --- So you have no track for improvements? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 V Stuart Foote changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC||vsfo...@libreoffice.org Resolution|--- |NOTABUG --- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote --- "... should be a project to better mirror out of the box experience that MS Word users get ..." Hmm, not seeing an advantage or need to doing anything more for folks coming from MS Office Desktop apps, or their O365 cloud flavors. Specific behavior you describe is "anchoring", LibreOffice and ODF specs handle differently in UI and document structure to MS's implementation for OOXML. We very much expect users to RTM, especially necessary for folks crossing over from the MS UIs. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 154429] Suggestions for Default settings for new installs
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=154429 markbal...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|Suggestions for Default |Suggestions for Default |settings for new installed |settings for new installs -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
