[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #26 from vulc...@gmx.com 2012-07-23 20:40:49 PDT --- I confirm. Resolved in MS Office 2013 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #25 from Fitoschido fitosch...@gmail.com 2012-07-21 23:36:28 UTC --- FWIW, MS Office 2013 (currently in beta) can open and edit ODF 1.2 files. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||sebast...@sspaeth.de --- Comment #24 from Eike Rathke er...@redhat.com 2012-06-06 14:22:27 PDT --- @Sebastian: An overview of changes is given at http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/cs01/OpenDocument-v1.2-cs01-part1.html#__RefHeading__1420418_253892949 That, plus the entire OpenFormula specification of http://docs.oasis-open.org/office/v1.2/cs01/OpenDocument-v1.2-cs01-part2.html However, MS-Office at least up to 2010 does not preserve spreadsheet formulas in ODF. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #23 from sebast...@sspaeth.de sebast...@sspaeth.de 2012-06-03 03:08:11 PDT --- I know this is not appropriate for a bug report. But... is there further information of what specific data loss can occur between odf 1.2 and odf 1.1? I am tempted to save docs as ODF 1.1 in order to remain compatible with my Office-using colleagues. Any pointer would be appreciated, thanks -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #22 from vulc...@gmx.com 2012-01-15 13:18:25 PST --- Someone have send a mail to MS ? I think if it will be better if it's an official people who send this mail and no a simple user. And a copy of this mail in this post could be a good idea. This post is open, MS could not say: we don't know. If you ask me, i think we should wait. The goal of ODF is the interoperability. And the users of MS Office will be afraid of this advertisement and think ODF is not a good format. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #21 from Michael Meeks michael.me...@novell.com 2012-01-13 07:22:42 PST --- Here is the relevant ESC minute from our discussion yesterday: * all docs created by LibO 3.4+ considered invalid by MS Office + we do the right thing: putting 1.2 in the manifest version (Thorsten) + recent bug-fix in a 3.4 CWS + ODF 1.2 makes the version mandatory, and must have value=1.2 + if it is seen, MS Office will claim it is invalid. + it's not possible for us to write valid ODF 1.2 docs about which MS Office doesn't complain + MS Office offers to 'repair' import it + that looks scary. + it's not our bug + Need to release-note this: + avoid recommending the legacy 1.1 format due to data loss concerns -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #20 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-12 02:46:14 PST --- the fact that OOo up to version 3.3 did not write the manifest:version attribute was a bug: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=115789 the next release (as Apache OpenOffice) will have the fix for this included, and now that it finally writes valid ODF 1.2, MS Office will claim that the documents it writes are invalid. Microsoft's approach to implementing standards is discouraging to me. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 tester8 iamtest...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||iamtest...@gmail.com --- Comment #18 from tester8 iamtest...@gmail.com 2012-01-11 11:22:58 PST --- there is no way anybody can write ODF 1.2 files that are both valid and non-objectionable to MS Office 2010. Ok. NOTOURBUG. But imagine user who doesn't know what the difference beetwen ODF 1.1 and 1.2, likely he doesn't know what is ODF (only .odt, etc.). He saves document and then this document can't be opened with MSO 2010. What he decided? LO not working. I think in Tools-Options-Load/Save should be following ODF format version 1.0/1.1 (compatible with MSO 2010) 1.2 1.2 Extended (recommended) May be this option should be more noticeable, even as a question on first start. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #19 from Jacek jacek@laposte.net 2012-01-11 23:35:54 PST --- This is a real LibOffice problem for me. I did some tests with writer from latest OOo release using three proposed ODF formats (1.0/1.1, 1.2, 1.2 extended). All saved documents are opened by Microsoft Word 2007 SP2. I used the same formats with writer of LibOffice 3.4.4 and 3.5.0beta2. Only the documents saved following ODF 1.0/1.1 can be opened by Word. The documents saved following 1.2 and 1.2 extended are considered as invalid, but they are recupered correctly. As I exchange the documents with quite a lot of people, consideration of this issue as NOTOURBUG and CLOSED is discouraging for me. Sorry for saying that. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #8 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-09 04:07:20 PST --- the ODF Toolkit validator is now an Apache project: http://incubator.apache.org/odftoolkit/conformance/ODFValidator.html but the web service on the ODF Toolkit site doesn't seem to work; Google found me this site, which does work: http://odf-validator.rhcloud.com/ of course the validator has a command line interface as well, so downloading the source is also an option; there doesn't seem to be a binary download yet. OOo and LO cannot actually save ODF version 1.0 files, the oldest version is ODF 1.1. but that shouldn't cause any problems in practice because ODF 1.1 just adds some accessibility stuff that can just be ignored. (in contrast, for ODF 1.2 there are some new and different ways of doing things that would be unsupported by an ODF 1.0/1.1 reader). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #9 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-09 05:21:01 UTC --- i just found that the ODF 1.1 schema has a bug: there are several attributes in the 3.1.18 Document Statistics that are missing the meta: namespace prefix; this causes ODF 1.1 strict validation to spuriously fail with: unexpected attribute meta:non-whitespace-character-count -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #10 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-09 06:14:38 PST --- Created attachment 55328 -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=55328 trivial test doc from LO master, ODF 1.1 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #11 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-09 06:17:26 PST --- Created attachment 55329 -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=55329 test1.1, but changed all office:version from 1.1 to 1.2 this does not validate as ODF 1.2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #12 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-09 06:19:05 PST --- Created attachment 55330 -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=55330 same as previous, but removed the text:outline-style element this removes un-necessary text:outline-style from the previous attachment, which brings it a step closer to being valid ODF 1.2 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #13 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-09 06:21:00 PST --- Created attachment 55331 -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=55331 same as previous, but add the manifest:version=1.2 attribute only change is that this adds the ODF 1.2 required manifest:version attribute, and this now validates as ODF 1.2 (conforming). -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #14 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-09 06:22:09 PST --- can somebody please test which of the 4 document i just attached are considered invalid by MS Office? -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #15 from William Gathoye will...@gathoye.be 2012-01-09 07:22:01 PST --- Created attachment 55334 -- https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=55334 Untouched new ODT document created directly with Word 2010 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||NOTOURBUG CC||er...@redhat.com, ||tbehr...@novell.com --- Comment #17 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-09 07:44:33 UTC --- thanks, very interesting that the difference that makes MS Office consider the document invalid is the manifest:version. in ODF 1.2, the root element of the manifest has an attribute manifest:version, which is mandatory and must have the value 1.2. in ODF 1.1, this attribute does not exist. in other words, there is no way anybody can write ODF 1.2 files that are both valid and non-objectionable to MS Office 2010. thus, resolving NOTOURBUG. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||37361 -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #2 from Petr Mladek pmla...@suse.cz 2012-01-06 06:05:33 PST --- It would affect many users = added to most annoying bugs. William, it would be great if you could attach your more complex document with the borders and tables that is considered wrong by MS Office. I am afraid that there might be more incompatibilities that are not visible by the simple hello.odt. If your document includes sensitive data, please remove most of it and replace the remaining strings with random words. We do not need the many elements repeated. For example, one table and one modified border should be enough to detect problems with them. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #3 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-06 06:33:58 PST --- i'm not sure this is an OOo/LO problem: AFAIK MS Office only supports ODF 1.1, while OOo/LO write ODF 1.2 extended by default. i don't have any MS Office around, can somebody check if it works when you set the ODF version to ODF 1.2 or ODF 1.1 in Tools-Options-Load/Save-General? maybe MS Office thinks that any ODF document with a version 1.1 is invalid, and we can't do anything about that. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 44498] All OpenDocument files created with LibO 3.4 or 3.5 are considered as invalid by Microsoft Office
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44498 --- Comment #4 from Michael Stahl mst...@redhat.com 2012-01-06 06:35:58 PST --- oh, forgot to mention that the ODF Toolkit validator says the attached hello.odt is valid ODF 1.2. -- Configure bugmail: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
