[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2023-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #48 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Philippe Cloutier from comment #47)
> When was this resolved?

See bug 38093 => Feature of LO since version 7.2

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2023-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2023-12-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #47 from Philippe Cloutier  ---
When was this resolved?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2022-05-02 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #46 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Elmar from comment #45)
> I was looking for a way to manipulate the order of lists, and came across
> the feature options / writer / view
> 
> When I tick the outline folding buttons, and apply, they are immediately
> unpicked again.

If you think an implemented feature behaves not correctly or in case you have
enhancement suggestions please file a new ticket rather than to reopen
resolved.

If you do so, provide a step by step description and/or a clear use case with
your workflow and expectation. 

Thank you in advance for contributing to the project with ideas and bug
reports.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2022-05-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Elmar  changed:

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 Resolution|DUPLICATE   |---

--- Comment #45 from Elmar  ---
I was looking for a way to manipulate the order of lists, and came across the
feature options / writer / view

When I tick the outline folding buttons, and apply, they are immediately
unpicked again.

Is this intentional?

The features in the toolbar to move a line and its children is wonderful, but
what happened to the ability to expand and collapse children in a list?
https://libreoffice-dev.blogspot.com/2020/08/a-new-writer-outline-folding-mode-in.html

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2021-03-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #44 from Leonardo  ---
Waiting for this feature

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2021-01-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #43 from Safeer Pasha  ---
+1

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2021-01-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #42 from Safeer Pasha  ---
+1

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dieter  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 Status|REOPENED|RESOLVED

--- Comment #41 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Cougar Brenneman from comment #40)
> I've been trying to describe what has been needed for probably m0re than a
> decade, and other users who understand me agree. However, apparently there
> are very few actual writers in the development process and those that are
> writers haven't figured out how a properly functioning outliner is like
> having superpowers. 


Cougar, you don't push the solution, if you always reopen that bug report. In
the past, ther were two bug reports with the same topic. So please let's put
power together at bug 38093. Please add your comments there and let's bring
things forward. I'm also waiting for that feature for years. So hopefully it
will become a project for GSOC next year (see bug 38093 comment 42)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #40 from Cougar Brenneman  ---
I've been trying to describe what has been needed for probably m0re than a
decade, and other users who understand me agree. However, apparently there are
very few actual writers in the development process and those that are writers
haven't figured out how a properly functioning outliner is like having
superpowers. 

Why would Superman want to eat Kryptonite for breakfast if he knows that day,
he will need to be able to fly?

That's why I can't EVER use LibreOffice for any of my writing, and that's why
I've been promoting this for at least a decade, counting both OO and LO, though
I can only find records on LO any earlier than 2014.

I need my superpowers.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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   Keywords|needsUXEval |
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--- Comment #39 from Heiko Tietze  ---
(In reply to Cougar Brenneman from comment #37)
> Someone is marking my comments as no value...

Which does not mean to reopen the duplicate ticket. Of course, your input is of
high value to the development and will be taken into account - even on the
ticket resolved as duplicate.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #36)
> *** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 38093 ***

Still my take.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #38 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Cougar Brenneman from comment #37)
Cougar, you've reopened the bug report. Why do you think, it is different from
bug 38093?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

Cougar Brenneman  changed:

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--- Comment #37 from Cougar Brenneman  ---
Someone is marking my comments as no value after I've spent almost a decade
trying to explain the value of a feature, and I finally figured out how to
explain it. Stop it. I spent hours on this yesterday. This is why I don't use
LibreOffice. It's entirely inadequate because of lack of one tool.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE
 Status|NEW |RESOLVED

--- Comment #36 from Heiko Tietze  ---


*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 38093 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #35 from Cougar Brenneman  ---
I also tried to describe this issue in the following bug in 2016:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38093#c40

In this other bug, I referred in 2016 to other bugs that I had written
previously. So my first attempt to describe this bug was probably in 2014 or
earlier.

In that other bug, Mike Kaganski ridiculed my concerns so completely that I
completely gave on ever using LO for my writing work. 

Mike tried to tell me that as a professional writer, I don't know what I know. 

But I do know. That's why I keep the program on my computer, but never use it.
>From my point of view, functionality of LO is so bad -- in this one area alone
-- that I never open it up. I would use LO ONLY as a last resort. It is that
flawed by this one, single lack.

For me, there's no value to it until you fix the outliner view that Navigator
displays so inadequately.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #34 from Cougar Brenneman  ---
It should also be pointed out that this feature is fractal. In my example, I
started with Headings 3 and Headings 4. Then I promoted one of them to Heading
2. In the course of using this technique to organize a complex document, I
sometimes use it with five or six levels of headings -- and on occasion, as
many as nine levels. 

The following complexity of organizing is also possible -- and indeed, I often
organize to four or five levels in my own writing. This is why I've currently
given  up on both OO and LO for my own work, and also why somewhere in the
system, you'll find a lot of lengthy attempts at explaining this.

Remember, all of this organizing starts with a random list of ideas that I drag
the buttons and drop them into appropriate buckets.

Z with temp title
   H
  5
  b
  a
  6
   D
  e
  12
  2
   F
  13
  i
  f
Y with temp title
  3
  k
   B
  16
   E
  m
  n
  9
  15
X with temp title
  7
  j
   C
  10
  11
   G
  l
  14
  d
   A
  h
  8
  1
  c
  g
  4

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #33 from Cougar Brenneman  ---
Above, I meant the following
In Word, those buttons are draggable and droppable IN OUTLINE VIEW.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #32 from Cougar Brenneman  ---
I'm glad that someone has made that video. It explains 1/2 of the reasons for
using outline views. Frankly, I've never made a video of my screen, and I don't
have time to figure that out, now. One of the earlier bug reports that
originated this discussion may have been mine. Frankly, I had given up trying
to explain this. That means that I default to using MS Word, rather than LO or
OO, though a passable outliner is also available in WPS Office.

In the videos demonstrating the collapsible sections in Word, there's a button
at the beginning of each line that is used to collapse or expand the section as
demonstrated in the videos. In the following, I symbolize that button with a
right-pointing bracket. (>)

> Heading 3: No title X
> Heading 3: No title Y
> Heading 3: No title Z

> Paragraph or Heading 4: Text underneath is collapsed A
> Paragraph or Heading 4: Text underneath is collapsed B
> Paragraph or Heading 4: Text underneath is collapsed C
> Paragraph or Heading 4: Text underneath is collapsed D
> Paragraph or Heading 4: Text underneath is collapsed E
> Paragraph or Heading 4: Text underneath is collapsed F
> Paragraph or Heading 4: Text underneath is collapsed G
> Paragraph or Heading 4: Text underneath is collapsed H

In Word, those buttons are draggable and droppable. In addition, paragraphs can
be collapsed to only display the first line.

Suppose I have brainstormed eight ideas or I have written a document of eight
paragraphs or eight sections in length. I've collapsed everything so that only
the above 11 lines are visible on my screen. (Most documents are more
complicated than this.)

None of the Heading 3's have any text in them. They are simply buttons with no
text.

Step 1: Click the button in front of A. Drag it and drop it under X.
Step 2: Click the button in front of B. Drag it and drop it under Y.
Step 3: Click the button in front of C. Drag it and drop it under X.
Step 4: Click the button in front of D. Drag it and drop it under Z.
Step 5: Click the button in front of E. Drag it and drop it under Y.
Step 6: Click the button in front of F. Drag it and drop it under Z.
Step 7: Click the button in front of G. Drag it and drop it under X.
Step 8: Click the button in front of H. Drag it and drop it under Z.

This produces the following pattern. Note that I have used the buttons to
rearrange the order of the subheadings or titles within the Heading 3's.
X contains: C, G, A
Y contains: B, E
Z contains: H, D, F

Step 9: Write a temporary descriptive title for each of the Heading 3's. 

Step 10: Collapse all of the Heading 3's. The only thing visible on screen will
be:
> X--with title
> Y--with title
> Z--with title

Step 11: Drag the button in front of Z above X and promote it to Heading 2.

Step 12: Drag the button in front of X below Y.

Step 13: Uncollapse everything. Now, the new order of the completely
reorganized document will be:

Z with temp title
   H
   D
   F
Y with temp title
   B
   E
X with temp title
   C
   G
   A

Step 14: Rewrite the headers and paragraphs to repair the flow of the document.

The benefits of this approach become far more visible the longer the document. 

A document containing several dozen headings and 150 paragraphs is equally easy
to organize at a vast savings of time and a final product that is superior to
anything that can be produced in any other way.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #31 from Francewhoa 
 ---
This below might be of interest to the LibreOffice Design Team. For inspiration
from other similar products with this collapse & expand feature.

- - - - - - - - - - - - 



Video 3 minutes watch at https://youtu.be/aft_4mcaxHU

- - - - - - - - - - - - 



Article from Microsoft Word titled "Collapse or expand parts of a document"
•
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/Collapse-or-expand-parts-of-a-document-701786E0-95E2-40BF-BFE5-F0233CD3520C

• https://archive.md/5R8UO

- - - - - - - - - - - - 



Tutorial from How-to Geek titled "How to Collapse and Expand Parts of Your
Document in Word"

•
https://www.howtogeek.com/216755/how-to-collapse-and-expand-parts-of-your-document-in-word/

• https://archive.md/wx8kR

- - - - - - - - - - - - 


The Ubertus team would be happy to contribute testing or documentation if
needed

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dieter  changed:

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--- Comment #30 from Dieter  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #25)
> This definitely looks like a dupe of tdf#38093 - outline mode for Writer.

I agree. Adding Design-Team for decision about it
cc: Design-Team

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dieter  changed:

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   Priority|medium  |high

--- Comment #29 from Dieter  ---
I've changed priority to high, because there are more than 20 peaople in cc

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-25 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #28 from bbd@gmail.com  ---
+1 (million). I really, desperately! need this feature... PLEASE!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #27 from Duns  ---
+1

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-04-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Dieter  changed:

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--- Comment #26 from Dieter  ---
*** Bug 131878 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-01-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Mike Kaganski  changed:

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--- Comment #25 from Mike Kaganski  ---
This definitely looks like a dupe of tdf#38093 - outline mode for Writer.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2020-01-15 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #24 from Francewhoa 
 ---
+1 for this new feature. I'm happy to contribute testing and documentation if
needed.

MB Squared contributed a proposal, mockups, and examples at
https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/2596/text-folding-pretty-please/

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2019-11-16 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #23 from kocj  ---
me-too I am also waiting for this future

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2019-10-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #22 from Duncan  ---
+1 Went searching and was disappointed to see this isn't yet implemented
despite years of it being requested. Text folding is an indispensable tool, and
I'm forced to continue using other software instead of switching to LibreOffice
because of it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2019-08-14 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #21 from Jason White  ---
+1, As an engineer who writes out requirement trees as numbered lists this
would be very, very helpful.

Realistically, what would it take to make this happen? Perhaps a small donation
to one of the core developers of LibreOffice?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2019-07-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #20 from aslmx  ---
I've been told this is possible in Word. Searched if this feature exists in LO
and after some minutes I find this feature request.

+1 

 Folding text for the sake of having a better overview or because a piece of
text is not needed right now is a feature i want to see in LO.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2019-07-06 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from Francewhoa 
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+1 for this new feature

I would be happy to contributed testing and documentation

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2019-06-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #18 from Duns  ---
+1 for this very helpful feature

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2019-05-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #17 from bbd@gmail.com  ---
I really, desperately need this feature of text folding in LO. Please add i!
Please!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2018-11-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #16 from Kaue  ---
+1
This feature would make LO a wonderful One-pane outliner.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2018-10-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #15 from Harbinger  ---
+1 on this feature (bug?)

The ONLY reason i still use MS Word is the only feature. As a technical writer,
the ability to quickly set up an outline and flesh it out is paramount to my
work and hobbies.
If LibreOffice could provide this feature, i could abandon WORD forever and
focus on one application for everything text-related.

Let me encourage our volunteer devs to pursue this concept.

;)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 47746] "Code folding" for Writer / Collapse or expand parts of a document

2018-10-01 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47746

--- Comment #14 from Harbinger  ---
+1 on this feature (bug?)

The ONLY reason i still use MS Word is the only feature. As a technical writer,
the ability to quickly set up an outline and flesh it out is paramount to my
work and hobbies.
If LibreOffice could provide this feature, i could abandon WORD forever and
focus on one application for everything text-related.

Let me encourage our volunteer devs to pursue this concept.

;)

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