[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 52598] Writer ignores original picture pixel density in .jpg files, and uses 120 dpi (refer comment 19 and 26)

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--- Comment #40 from Julien Nabet  ---
We're talking about a jpg file not a TIFF file using jpeg compression=>removing
block on "Images-TIFF"


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--- Comment #39 from Dirk Munk  ---
The original problem has been resolved, Writer handles the dpi setting
properly. That means that I can now prepare images with photo editing software,
and just enter them in a Writer document.

Writer is not meant to be photo editing software, so don't expect it to do
that.

Images do not have dimensions in cm or inch. Images exist out of pixels, and
those are dimensionless. It is the dpi setting that will software at which size
the image has to be printed. Unfortunately high resolution jpg images from
cameras often have a rather silly 72 dpi as standard setting, which means that
printed images would be ridiculously big. The only proper way to prepare those
images for use in a Writer document is with photo editing software. The same
applies to images without a dpi setting. Load these images in photo editing
software, set the proper dpi setting and required image size, and recalculate
the number of pixels. 

I use Affinty Photo for that purpose. It is an excellent program, cheap, and
has free updates.

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I set High because there are duplicates and bug 96178 and probably others like
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--- Comment #37 from Timur  ---
Duplicated bug had a title " ENHANCEMENT: Image without resolution set should
get a default fallback resolution (not based on a screen resolution)".
I agree that this is annoying, and with bug 96178 (and bug 144070 which is the
same issue) should be of High priority. 
Because although it's not common, when it happens it is not obvious, and
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--- Comment #34 from Dirk Munk  ---
The problem still exists, the headers of certain images are still not handled
properly. Very annoying.

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JPG header information with high-res dpi setting

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--- Comment #29 from Dirk Munk  ---
In a previous comment I stated that the information is in the EXIF headers,
this is a mistake, the information is in the standard JPEG headers. 

I've uploaded two IrFanView information headers. The difference between the two
is the dpi setting in the header, nothing else. That information is used to
calculate the print size in cm / inch. It seems that Writer isn't (always)
capable to read the dpi setting from the header, and it then replaces the dpi
setting by the dpi of the screen. This results in a completely wrong size of
the picture in the Writer document. Adjusting the size in Writer results in
resampling the picture, and using the wrong, mostly lower, dpi setting.

It's very simple, anyone who is able to understand the way jpg and other
graphic files are handled in Writer, can understand this,

Please fix this problem!!

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--- Comment #27 from Dirk Munk  ---
It is a problem with handling the EXIF headers. The EXIF headers contain
information about dpi etc., and LibreOffice doesn't handle them properly. It is
a really serious problem if you want to create high quality documents with high
resolution pictures. So I'm going to raise the importance to major.

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--- Comment #26 from Dirk Munk  ---
The problem is really very simple. JPEG file headers contain information about
the size of the picture, measured in pixels. They also contain information
about the dpi setting. The dpi setting is used to calculate the desired picture
size in cm or inch, it doesn't do anything else. A high dpi setting will result
in a small high resolution picture, a low dpi setting in a large low resolution
picture. The dpi setting has nothing to do with the actual contents of the
picture, so changing the dpi setting doesn't do anything with this contents. It
is very important to keep this in mind.

The problem is that LibreOffice doesn't understand the JPEG headers of at least
Photoshop elements. It will not read the dpi setting, instead Libreoffice will
use the dpi setting of the display. So a JPEG photo that is intended to be 10cm
x 10cm with 300 dpi, will become 31.25cm x 31.25cm in Writer, because I have a
96dpi display. (300/96 x 10 = 31.25)

Libreoffice does understand the JPEG headers of (for instance) Microsoft Paint.
If I open a JPEG picture made by Photoshop Elements in Paint, and immediately
save it again, that picture will be opened correctly by Libreoffice. However,
Paint uses a lower quality compression setting, so the actual contents is
changed. Mind you, not the size in pixels, or the dpi setting!!

It is indeed a serious problem, because it prevents people from making high
quality documents, high quality meaning high resolution images for printing
etc. It can't be very difficult to solve I guess, it just needs someone who
knows about these headers, and can find a fool-proof way to handle them

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Photoshop resize window - resampling off

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--- Comment #22 from Dirk Munk m...@home.nl ---
I ran into the same problem. I prepared some pictures with Photoshop Elements,
and wanted to insert them as is in a Writer document, but I wasn't able to do
so.

When you edit an image in Photoshop, the properties of the image will show the
number of pixels (obviously) and the desired DPI setting. The two combined can
be used to calculated the desired size of the image in cm or inches. 

Writer ignores the desired DPI setting and will always resample the image based
on the DPI setting of the screen (96 DPI in my case) and the size of the image
in the document.

With Compress Graphic you can change the DPI setting of the image, but that
seems to be not of the orginal image but of the the already resampled image. 

To makes this clear, the following example. I have an image of 1600 x 1065
pixels. When I insert this image on a A4 page, it will be resampled to fit the
width of the page using a resolution of 96 DPI. The resulting image has a size
of 642 x 427 pixels.

When I open Compress Graphic I can change the DPI setting back to the original
300 DPI, but then I will get an image size of 2007 x 1335 pixels, so a
resampling of the already resampled image will take place. That is not good for
the quality of the image, any resampling should be done based on the original
image.

In Photoshop Elements there is a setting that allows you to switch resampling
on or off. If you switch it off changing the DPI setting is the only way to
change the size of the image in cm or inches. With resampling on you can choose
any DPI and size in cm or inch. 

So in my opinion three things should happen:
1. Writer should use the desired DPI setting of the image if the DPI setting is
in the properties of the image (and if possible).
2. If Writer needs to resample an image, it should always use the original
image.
3. It should be possible to switch resampling off, and just use the DPI setting
to get the desired size in cm or inches. 

Attached are an example image, and two screen dumps of the Photoshop window,
one with resampling enabled, and one without.

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It may be that this is not a bug that can be fixed, but we should at least get
a developer to look at this. Summary amended to point to comment 19, which
contains steps to reproduce.

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