[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53541] UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog

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--- Comment #6 from John <551taylor.j...@tiscali.co.uk> ---
Thanks for your comprehensive explanation, Roman.

I can sympathize with both sides of the argument, and I do agree that simply
typing [Ctrl+F] +  is easier and quicker, and doesn't even need you to
look at the search box. :-)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53541] UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog

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Roman Eisele  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEEDINFO|RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #5 from Roman Eisele  ---
Thank you very much for your answer!

I completely understand your explanation. Yes, it is easy to miss the little
“Find” palette window, and I agree this behaviour is not what a user who
migrated from MS Office (or switches between both applications) would expect.

Actually, in LibreOffice 3.3 and 3.4 we had mostly the same behaviour as in MS
Office; the new differentiation between “Find” palette window and “Find and
Replace” dialog window was introduced in LibreOffice 3.5. The model for the new
“Find” palette window is not MS Office, but the “Find” palette window in
Mozilla Firefox and some other applications. Actually some users demanded such
a little “Find” palette/toolbar widged. The advantage of the “Find” palette
window is that it always can stay visible, integrated into some toolbar or
floating freely, just as the user likes it, and therefore it is intentionally
unobstrusive.

So IMHO we have a little conflict of interests here: on the one hand,
similarity to MS Office makes migration and interchange easier, and so some
users would prefer the old behaviour (e.g. you, and maybe me, too); on the
other hand, other users prefer the little unobstrusive “Find” palette which can
always stay visible to allow fast searching. We can not get both advantages at
once, and therefore to me the current solution: having two different windows,
one with Ctrl+F and one with Ctrl+H, seems a reasonable compromise.

But I don’t want to persuade you; I just wanted to explain why we have this
little difference from MS Office ;-)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53541] UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog

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--- Comment #4 from John <551taylor.j...@tiscali.co.uk> ---
I think I have identified my problem. In MS Office, the Find and the
Find+Replace dialogs are almost identical, and always appear in the center of
the screen, whereas in Libre the find box appears as a small box on the bottom
tool bar while the F+R is a big dialog box in the center of the screen.

I think it would be more intuitive, and help migrating MS Office users a bit,
if the boxes were identical, and both appeared in the center of the workspace.

Thanks for your help,

John

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53541] UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog

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--- Comment #3 from Roman Eisele  ---
Thank you for your answer!

First a hint:
in the future, please do not reply directly to e-mails by bugzilla
(bugs.freedesktop.org), because this clutters your bug report with long
misaligned text. To answer, just come back to the bug report page, in this
case:
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53541
and enter your answer into the “Additional Comments” field, then press “Save
Changes”. -- Thank you very much!


Now about the bug:

I have checked this in LibreOffice 3.5/3.6 with UK English UI, both on Windows
XP and on Mac OS X; however, I can not reproduce the problem: as expected,
Ctrl+F opens the “Find” palette window, while Ctrl+H opens the traditional
“Find and Replace” dialog window. This difference between “Find” palette window
and “Find and Replace” dialog window is a new behaviour which was introduced in
LibreOffice 3.5.

So please check the following:

1) Is it possible that the shortcut works correctly, but that you just have
missed the “Find” palette window? Maybe it has been dragged to the margin of
the screen?

2) If you can’t spot the “Find” palette window at all, it is possible that some
local setting was corrupted. To test this, please try resetting (temporarily)
your LibreOffice user profile. How to do this? Please see
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User_Profile#Resetting_the_user_profile
together with the explanation about where the user profile is located on the
same page.

Please check if the problem is now solved, i.e. if the “Find” palette window
now appears when you press Ctrl+F, or if it still does not work at all. And
please state your results in an additional comment on the present bug report.

Thank you very much in advance!

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53541] UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog

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--- Comment #2 from John <551taylor.j...@tiscali.co.uk> ---
Yes, sorry, I use UK English. I have just retested, and the bug reproduces in
Windows 7 Home. Ctrl + H works fine though.



I haven't tried it on Linux, but I can next time I'm in it.







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  Roman Eisele changed bug 53541
  


What

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Status

UNCONFIRMED 

NEEDINFO 


Severity

normal 

minor 


CC



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Summary

Keyboard shortcut inop. 

UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog 


Ever confirmed



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53541   from 
 Roman Eisele 

Thank you for your bug report!

However, we need to know which User Interface language you use (English?).
And this is on Windows, right?

Thank you for your answers!
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 53541] UI: Ctrl+F does not open "Find" dialog

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Roman Eisele  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO
   Severity|normal  |minor
 CC||b...@eikota.de
Summary|Keyboard shortcut inop. |UI: Ctrl+F does not open
   ||"Find" dialog
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Roman Eisele  ---
Thank you for your bug report!

However, we need to know which User Interface language you use (English?).
And this is on Windows, right?

Thank you for your answers!

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