[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 54485] EDITING: cut / paste of a line of data doesn't remove the selected lines

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bureautiqueli...@nantesmetropole.fr changed:

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   Severity|normal  |enhancement

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 54485] EDITING: cut / paste of a line of data doesn't remove the selected lines

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--- Comment #5 from pierre-yves samyn  ---
Hello

The feature (move a line) already exists:
1. Select the line (click on the header)
2. Move the cursor on the line (not on the header) and move the selection to
the destination by pressing the Alt key

Regards
Pierre-Yves

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 54485] EDITING: cut / paste of a line of data doesn't remove the selected lines

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--- Comment #6 from Astron  ---
Agree that this is not terribly logical & agree with Eric's
(bureautiquelibre's) proposed solution.

One of the caveats here is presumably making sure that formulae stay intact,
even as a line is removed* – so I guess this improvement might be some work...


* Simple example: you have a formula SUM(A1:A4) in cell A5 and then delete row
3. The formula will now be in A4... to make sure the formula is still valid,
you'd have to correct it to SUM(A1:A3).

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 54485] EDITING: cut / paste of a line of data doesn't remove the selected lines

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Astron  changed:

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   Severity|major   |normal

--- Comment #7 from Astron  ---
Disregard the last part of my comment. I should have tried what happen when
removing a row currently – and formulas are corrected as expected. So, I don't
really see any reason not do this.

(Setting major => normal, because while annoying, it's not related to data loss
etc.)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 54485] EDITING: cut / paste of a line of data doesn't remove the selected lines

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Jean-Baptiste Faure  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Jean-Baptiste Faure  2012-09-17 
17:24:53 UTC ---
The cut & paste works on the contents of the cells. It is the way Calc works
for ages. For me it is not a bug as it works as designed.

Best regards. JBF

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 54485] EDITING: cut / paste of a line of data doesn't remove the selected lines

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--- Comment #2 from bureautiqueli...@nantesmetropole.fr 2012-09-18 10:00:51 UTC 
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I understand but if that design can be improved I don't see any good reason not
to change it.

Main reasons why it's not good are :
1/ It's a waste of time every time a cut/paste is performed. Cut is supposed to
cut, not copy and wipe cells.
2/ For the end user it is a regression compared to what they are used to.
3/ Cut/paste function is one of the most frequently used functions in a
spreadsheet.

I'm currently leading a small scale test with 95 regular users -not IT- out of
5000 users and almost everybody reported this problem as upsetting.

This design is obviously a problem to many if not all the calc users.


Is there a way to proceed so that this design is reconsidered as it would be a
significant usability improvement?

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--- Comment #3 from bureautiqueli...@nantesmetropole.fr 2012-09-21 08:40:20 UTC 
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I'm discovering how the community is structured, it's the first time I'm
contributing to an opensource project, all of this is quite new for me.

I'll get in touch with the design team about this feature, the bugtracker isn't
the good place for this kind of discussion,

Sorry for the inconvenience, this is not a bug,

Best Regards,
Eric Ficheux

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 54485] EDITING: cut / paste of a line of data doesn't remove the selected lines

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Mathieu Parent  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Hardware|x86 (IA32)  |All
 OS|Windows (All)   |All
 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #4 from Mathieu Parent  ---
I agree. Maybe a new design should be proposed? See
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