[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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--- Comment #9 from bugquestcon...@online.de ---
typo in text aborve 
create -> great

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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--- Comment #8 from bugquestcon...@online.de ---
Sometimes it creates a "good" feeling recognizing that also other people
struggle with certain things especially when one regards them as
experts

What you wrote about the formatting of cells in Calc sounds create. I am doing
such formating manually

I also got some helpful answer from AskLibO and currently try to sketch what I
have learned in a notebook. Should be able to produce something, which I
consider at least kind of helpful, I send to the guys at
documentat...@global.libreoffice.org. What I am working on is a graphical
explanation on how styles are linked. E,g. When I want red bullets, I need to
first create a new Character Style before I can create a new List Style and the
link between both styles is created via the new List Style > Options >
Character Style > select the new Character Style set up for the red bullets. So
far this one can be displayed graphically very well. But there is much more to
be done. I will try my best.

I feel it is also important to inform/warn people of the influence of
modifications made in templates. (This was my problem leading to this bug
report.). I started with an Impress template and continued to develop it. As
there was no warning about a change to a different template, I did not
understand why LibO "destroyed" my slide. 
Currently I am using more direct formating in Impress to avoid the reported
"bug".

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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--- Comment #7 from Rainer Bielefeld  ---
I also from time to time get unexpected results because I do not know all
details of the Styles handling, and I also often fail to get the results I want
because I know too few about relations there.

I believe the best place for a systematic manual and some "tips and tricks"
from real life would be the additional Manuals from


It sould be great if you could contribute some ideas
on, especially if you have learned
something new solving a "real life problem" and if you can contribute a draft
for an addition to the manual.

An example for a Problem I had: In CALC I want to see whether cells are
explications (no borders) or values (border), whether a cell is for an input
(blue border) or shows a result (red border). For results and inputs I need
different units (currency, physics, ...). And Additionally background of all
those cells should show whether the input or result is not plausible (checked
by formula in conditional formatting. And the relation between the styles
should be so functional that, for example, I can get double border widths for
all value cells in the document, but only the input borders s transparent ... .
But I never managed to do that correctly, suddenly my standard style is
modified unexpectedly and unwanted, I don't get the correct relations between
the styles.

Some similar not trivial examples might be useful.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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--- Comment #6 from bugquestcon...@online.de ---
Thank you Rainer for looking into this matter. I am glad the cause is know and
it is not a bug but a wrong use of styles an direct formatting. 
I currently try to better grsp styles and direct formating and your explanation
definitely helps.

The next is not meant as negative comment but as a forward leaning one.
It would be of much help to have a graphical document showing how styles are
build up and linked. 
If there is something documented already, I would appreciate to get link to or
a copy of such a document.
Should there someone else be interested in this I am willing to contribute to
an "extension" or "update" of the manual. But, currently I do not understand
enough for my daily flawless usage - not to talk about being able to produce
something.

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--- Comment #5 from Rainer Bielefeld  ---
Created attachment 69786
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New Sample Document

Please see how to use in Comment 1

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG
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--- Comment #4 from Rainer Bielefeld  ---
The effect is reproducible with reporter's sample and "LibreOffice 3.6.3.2"
German UI/ German Locale [Build-ID: 58f22d5] on German WIN7 Home Premium
(64bit) (and other versions back until OOo 3.1.1).

That has nothing to do with copy/paste complete slide, you see the same effects
when you copy/paste individual elements, also from reporter's sample

But I think it's not a bug but a user error. Some quick research seems to show
that all direct formatting persists when copy/past, but changed Styles (of
course) do not persist, but change to the styles settings of new Document.

In Ma NewExample.op you see 2 rectangles looking very similar. Select all page
contents and copy - paste to a new other blank presentation. It seems unexpecte
that now the rectangles look different, but that's intended behavior. 

In the left rectangle I changed line around rectangle to blue, 1mm, Text to
bold - italic - underlined - light red. For the right rectangle I did the same
modifications for the Standard Style. 

After copy/paste to blank new presentation individual formattings for left
rectangle persist (these individual formattings have priority to style), but
for the right rectangle without individual formattings now formattings from new
document's Standard Style are visible.

So NOTABUG

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 56777] EDITING: Copy & Paste of a slide from one presentation into another destroys format of graphical elements

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--- Comment #3 from bugquestcon...@online.de ---
Created attachment 69572
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screenshot of pasted slide

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--- Comment #2 from bugquestcon...@online.de ---
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