[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #1 from Zeki Bildirici --- Created attachment 73606 --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=73606&action=edit ubuntu 110 zoom -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #2 from Zeki Bildirici --- Created attachment 73607 --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=73607&action=edit kubuntu normal-hinting -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #3 from Zeki Bildirici --- Created attachment 73608 --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=73608&action=edit kubuntu 110 zoom normal hinting -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #4 from Zeki Bildirici --- Created attachment 73609 --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=73609&action=edit kubuntu normal view thin hinting -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #5 from Zeki Bildirici --- Created attachment 73610 --> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=73610&action=edit kubuntu 110 zoom thin hinting -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #6 from Zeki Bildirici --- Sorry for messing about the attachments. Bugzilla recognized it as text/plain and i forgot to change it during upload. Uploading here will be make crowd so i share the screenshots via Dropbox Here is the attachements: Normal view in Ubuntu http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38862200/LO-Screenshots/ubuntu-nvidia-normal-view.png %110 Zoom in Ubuntu http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38862200/LO-Screenshots/ubuntu-nvidia-110-zoom.png Medium font hinting in Kubuntu http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38862200/LO-Screenshots/kubuntu-nvidia-normal-view-medium-font-hinting.png %110 zoom in Kubuntu medium fpnt hinting http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38862200/LO-Screenshots/kubuntu-nvidia-110-zoom-view-medium-font-hinting.png Thin font hinting in Kubuntu http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38862200/LO-Screenshots/kubuntu-nvidia-normal-view-thin-font-hinting.png %110 Thin font hinting in Kubuntu http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38862200/LO-Screenshots/kubuntu-nvidia-110-zoom-view-thin-font-hinting.png Sample odt file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38862200/LO-Screenshots/Font-sample.odt -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Lubos Lunak changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #73606|text/plain |image/png mime type|| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Lubos Lunak changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #73607|text/plain |image/png mime type|| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Lubos Lunak changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #73608|text/plain |image/png mime type|| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Lubos Lunak changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #73609|text/plain |image/png mime type|| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Lubos Lunak changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #73610|text/plain |image/png mime type|| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Lubos Lunak changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #7 from Lubos Lunak --- Font rendering is done by LibreOffice, not its platform integration modules, so I doubt this has anything to do with LibreOffice itself. Please try running LO in exactly the same environment and compare the results. You can use SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN= libreoffice to run different LO platform plugins (where can be gtk, gtk3, kde, kde4, none). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Zeki Bildirici changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED Ever confirmed|1 |0 --- Comment #27 from Zeki Bildirici --- (In reply to foss from comment #26) > Zeki: has this changed in Ubuntu 14.04? For worse or better and with latest > LO 4.3RC3? Hi, Sorry for the delay, i have been away from KDE due to my old hardware. But now i have a new laptop which i am able to run a recent version of KDE. I am running Kubuntu 14.10, have LibreOffice 4.3.3.2 Build: 430m0(Build:2) and i can still reproduce the rendering issue. > This is a complex bug, dev input had been requested a while ago. > > @Lubos: where you able to confirm this bug? Ping This bug was noted on ESC minutes on 8 May and 25 July - http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2014-May/007106.html - http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/2014-July/007539.html > I'm putting this to NEEDINFO until we have feedback how this behaves with > newer version of both OS and LO. After providing that, please set the bug > back to unconfirmed or if Lubos or someone else was able to confirm, then to > NEW. ı'm settig the but to UNCONFIRMED. Best regards, Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #28 from Daniel Pastushchak --- Could not reproduce. I'm using Ubuntu 14.10 with KDE(4.14.1) and LibreOfficeDev Version: 4.5.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: dad173d9588e6abc2a465198b7d2881d4629246a TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@46-TDF-dbg, Branch:master, Time: 2014-12-10_22:53:28 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #29 from Adolfo Jayme --- (In reply to Nicolas Mailhot from comment #24) > IIRC that's because GTK/GNOME people decided to override the cross-platform > font stack configuration mecanisms and export settings with their own > methods. > > The GTK layer in libreoffice then reads this configuration and applies it. > > You happen to like the GTK font choices. If you run an ubuntu or gnome > session it will export them. If you use another DE it will read the normal > standard configuration files. > > There is no consensus on what is proper font configuration, different people > have different preferences, which is why GNOME people decided in their usual > way to force their vision on their users and ignore everyone else. > > Since you like those choices, you need to dig in GNOME/ubuntu to find where > they are carefully hidden away from user control and set the same values in > your fonts.conf where non-gnome-descended DEs will read them Nicolas is right. I was trying to say this from the beginning. This is NOTOURBUG, like it or not. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Robinson Tryon (qubit) changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC||qu...@runcibility.com Resolution|--- |NOTOURBUG --- Comment #30 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) --- (In reply to Adolfo Jayme (UX) from comment #29) > Nicolas is right. I was trying to say this from the beginning. This is > NOTOURBUG, like it or not. Okay: updating Status -> NOTOURBUG -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #35 from Zeki Bildirici --- Created attachment 120064 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=120064&action=edit Best font rendering setting in KDE settings module Now with this setting LibreOffice fonts look crystal clear. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #36 from Zeki Bildirici --- Hi, Finally i've found a workaround for this issue. I've attached the KDE System Settings screenshot. Just go to Font- Use Anti Allising- Configure -> Change Hinting style to "None". By this setting the fonts are rendered like native&crystal clear with LibreOffice. Have a nice day. Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #37 from Adolfo Jayme --- > By this setting the fonts are rendered like native&crystal clear with > LibreOffice. That’s your opinion, of course. Every user out there has different preferences on font rendering style, and the term “crystal-clear” is, obviously, interpreted differently by different people. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #38 from Zeki Bildirici --- Created attachment 120122 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=120122&action=edit Sample of a clear rendering by this settings. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #39 from Zeki Bildirici --- (In reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #37) > That’s your opinion, of course. Every user out there has different > preferences on font rendering style, and the term “crystal-clear” is, > obviously, interpreted differently by different people. I've uploaded a sample screenshot of this settings, it is obviously clear. If your eyes are healthy -plus have a high dpi monitor- you can determine a clear font rendering. I wish you had never looked to this bug report and trolled it, never read your name and face with your annoyance. Sorry for polluting the bugzilla, but i must admit that such behave makes me alienated from submitting bug reports. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Adolfo Jayme changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|CLOSED --- Comment #40 from Adolfo Jayme --- > > That’s your opinion, of course. Every user out there has different > > preferences on font rendering style, and the term “crystal-clear” is, > > obviously, interpreted differently by different people. > > I've uploaded a sample screenshot of this settings, it is obviously clear. Which is a lossy JPEG. So yeah. So clear. As I stated before, what may be obvious to you it is may not be for everybody else. And what is obvious to me is that you’re unwilling to accept that “clear” rendering is just an adjective with wildly varied meanings based on personal preference. That’s all I have said in this thread. > If your eyes are healthy -plus have a high dpi monitor- you can determine a > clear font rendering. I think I have both of those items. But what I clearly don’t have is your pettiness. I have never insulted you, but this is the Internet – I shouldn’t expect to get reciprocal feedback. > I wish you had never looked to this bug report and trolled it, never read > your name and face with your annoyance. It’s okay with me. > Sorry for polluting the bugzilla, but i must admit that such behave makes me > alienated from submitting bug reports. It’s also okay with me. Bye. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #34 from Zeki Bildirici --- (In reply to Daniel Pastushchak from comment #28) > Could not reproduce. I'm using Ubuntu 14.10 with KDE(4.14.1) and > LibreOfficeDev Version: 4.5.0.0.alpha0+ > Build ID: dad173d9588e6abc2a465198b7d2881d4629246a > TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@46-TDF-dbg, Branch:master, Time: > 2014-12-10_22:53:28 Just to note here. Still reproducable on Version: 5.0.0.5 Builf NO: 00m0(Build:5) plus same habit on different zoom factors 160 % to %180 and 220 % to 250 % Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #31 from Zeki Bildirici --- Just to note for KDE users this whole report is a very good example of acceptence of the situation again, for years, how hard you push KDE on LibreOffice does not move much... +1 to KDE native software -1 to LibreOffice on KDE -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #32 from Michael Meeks --- Zeki - it seems you've still not done as Lubos asked: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818#c7 Please keep KDE as your desktop environment, and then rotate through the various plugins as he describes with the env. var - and report the status. Ensure that you: $ pkill -9 -f soffice.bin between runs to ensure a clean slate. No doubt things can be improved here - but the improvements are not achieved by complaining (which has only a counter-productive effect), but by careful testing - and also submitting code changes: that is by far the best way to get anything fixed: we love to review & include patches :-) I guess it would also be ideal to have a (new) clean, brief, readable bug with a single comment, crisp description of the issue, links to the relevant standards, poking at the code to see where these are used etc. [ I believe we use Cairo for text rendering these days ~across the board ]. And of course, finally the diagnosis that the KDE settings are not being propagated to any cairo using app is entirely plausible =) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #33 from Adolfo Jayme --- (In reply to Zeki Bildirici from comment #31) > Just to note for KDE users this whole report is a very good example of > acceptence of the situation again, for years, how hard you push KDE on > LibreOffice does not move much... > > +1 to KDE native software > -1 to LibreOffice on KDE The stupidest thing I’ve read in this bug tracker yet. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Adolfo Jayme changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Zeki Bildirici changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|WORKSFORME |--- CC||f...@libreoffice.org --- Comment #16 from Zeki Bildirici --- Hi Adolfo, Please do not mark bugs resolved worksforme without any info like in his case; distrubution, platform, DE, DE version etc. I'm reverting the bug status to Reopened. Regards, Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Joel Madero changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|NEW --- Comment #17 from Joel Madero --- REOPENED is incorrect status - moving back to NEW -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Adolfo Jayme changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |NOTOURBUG --- Comment #18 from Adolfo Jayme --- Yes, you’re right. This should actually be NOTOURBUG rather than WORKSFORME. Because LibreOffice is respecting the hinting setting of the desktop environment, and once you modified it with a third party tweak (Infinality) you found out that you like it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Zeki Bildirici changed: What|Removed |Added Status|REOPENED|NEW -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Zeki Bildirici changed: What|Removed |Added Status|RESOLVED|REOPENED Resolution|NOTOURBUG |--- --- Comment #19 from Zeki Bildirici --- Hi Adolfo, Are you aware that you do not have to triage bugs -at least my reports and please don't... Regards, Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #20 from Adolfo Jayme --- Yet I waste time doing it because I like it. Yes, I’m not forced to translate LibreOffice, nor I am forced to give UX advise, but I do it. Problem? I do not understand why, even when in comment 15 you resolved the “problem”* (which is in Kubuntu’s default freetype configuration, i.e. a distro bug) you now want to have an open Bugzilla ticket here. Comment by you: > After all tests i've done, i can say that font rendering is definitely made > by the platform not LibreOffice. --- * “Problem” is in quotation marks because this thread is really just another bug report about different font rendering styles which look wrong to some people but others may like it, and so there’s not a single setting that makes averyone happy and that stuff… -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #21 from Adolfo Jayme --- (In reply to comment #19) > Are you aware that you do not have to triage bugs -at least my reports and > please don't... So you want me to retire because it’s the first time someone disagrees with the status of a bug report of yours? How should I take this? Since when is it bad that I express the reasons why I disagree with having this report open here, when it’s clearly a KDE thing? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Joel Madero changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |NEEDINFO --- Comment #22 from Joel Madero --- Okay I am actually moving this back to UNCONFIRMED and requesting dev input - maybe it's not ours. Zeki - please don't mark it as NEW again until an expert gets involved -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Joel Madero changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED Whiteboard|BSA |BSA NeedAdvice Ever confirmed|1 |0 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #23 from Zeki Bildirici --- Hi, Adolfo, it is clear that you didn't read what i've post here hundred of lines, and if you just decide and act without any info this won't be a respectful way of communication. I don't have time to re-write the things that i've written before just to explain the problem to you... You say it's a distro bug of Kubuntu but on https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818#c12 you may see that i wrote 4 other KDE distros has the same issue. Lubos wrote that font rendering is made by LO, not the DE... But in KDE DE it seems not, and i tried to prove that... Which may be the reason, but you come and cut the issue 'LO respects the hinting...' who said it doesn't? On the other hand, my workaround is not a solution. I'm a KDE user and i am not the only KDE user, LO is a cross platform software and KDE users can demand good font rendering as rest of the enviroments and platforms without any third party tool or hacking... This is all about to improve LO, not about just closing the bugs for 'any reason'... I always try to encourage people to involve in community and contribute to LO. But your way of behaviour is not correct. You just marked 'Worksforme' without giving any detail... And then you marked as 'Notourbug' without any proper prove... This way gives no benefit to anyone... And just an advise, please do not interfere without reading and understanding the whole issue. Anyway, Joel is right... Regards, Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #24 from Nicolas Mailhot --- IIRC that's because GTK/GNOME people decided to override the cross-platform font stack configuration mecanisms and export settings with their own methods. The GTK layer in libreoffice then reads this configuration and applies it. You happen to like the GTK font choices. If you run an ubuntu or gnome session it will export them. If you use another DE it will read the normal standard configuration files. There is no consensus on what is proper font configuration, different people have different preferences, which is why GNOME people decided in their usual way to force their vision on their users and ignore everyone else. Since you like those choices, you need to dig in GNOME/ubuntu to find where they are carefully hidden away from user control and set the same values in your fonts.conf where non-gnome-descended DEs will read them -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #8 from Zeki Bildirici --- (In reply to comment #7) > Font rendering is done by LibreOffice, not its platform integration modules, > so I doubt this has anything to do with LibreOffice itself. Please try > running LO in exactly the same environment and compare the results. You can > use > > SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN= libreoffice > > to run different LO platform plugins (where can be gtk, gtk3, kde, > kde4, none). Sorry but i am not able to understand the difference. I've already tried it on the same system and different components like KDE GNOME and XFCE etc. If it is rendered by LibreOffice not by the system, how can the font hinting could change the font quality? You may see, it is ok with GNOME but as you may see KDE is crappy, same system same LibreOffice same packages installed, only desktop enviroment changes. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #9 from Lubos Lunak --- And I'd like you to test it even without the desktop environment changing. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #10 from Zeki Bildirici --- (In reply to comment #7) > SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN= libreoffice > > to run different LO platform plugins (where can be gtk, gtk3, kde, > kde4, none). Firstly i've installed libreoffice-gtk3 and libreoffice-gtk to my Kubuntu system. Then used the commands. The result was no different from the native version. Also after installing gtk3 package, there were lots of errors in the konsole and was not responding. I think it is not related to here but like dto say: (soffice:3824): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_toplevel: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed 1 -> 1136,627 144x118 Unhandled is native supported for Type: 80, Part 107 It was the same and not good as the native Ubuntu Unity and Debian. Now i don't have a native Ubuntu installation to test the platforms. If i have i will test it. Btw, do you think trying with openSUSE or others can make a sense? If so i can try it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Foss changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO Ever confirmed|0 |1 --- Comment #26 from Foss --- Zeki: has this changed in Ubuntu 14.04? For worse or better and with latest LO 4.3RC3? This is a complex bug, dev input had been requested a while ago. @Lubos: where you able to confirm this bug? I'm putting this to NEEDINFO until we have feedback how this behaves with newer version of both OS and LO. After providing that, please set the bug back to unconfirmed or if Lubos or someone else was able to confirm, then to NEW. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Joel Madero changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|NEW CC||jmadero@gmail.com --- Comment #13 from Joel Madero --- Hi All, I can confirm that there is a difference - although I don't think it's a really serious issue at 110% fonts do appear bold in KDE but don't look that way in Unity, Gnome, or Cinnamon. I have tested this one: LibreOffice Version 4.1.3.2 release (installed through Ubuntu ppa) LibreOffice Version 4.2.0.1 rc (installed through debian packages from LibreOffice.org/download) LibreOffice Version 4.3 built on Sun Dec 15 23:07:57 2013 +0100 w/ only --without-doxygen as an option Lubos - let me know if there's something else you want me to try. What I can say is the same product renders fonts differently on different DE's - if this isn't our bug, can we get a pointer of what it *may* be so that Zeki can head over there to file a bug. Thanks! -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #14 from Zeki Bildirici --- Hi, I've opened a topic in KDE forum for some time ago and there are some thoughts here: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=118879 Fyi, Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #15 from Zeki Bildirici --- (In reply to comment #7) Hi Lubos, > Font rendering is done by LibreOffice, not its platform integration modules, > so I doubt this has anything to do with LibreOffice itself. Please try > running LO in exactly the same environment and compare the results. You can > use Today i tried the Linux Infinality stuff here: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/06/better-font-rendering-in-linux-with.html and fonts are now looking great in LibreOffice. I can definitely confirm that font rendering in LibreOffice made by the system not by LibreOffice itself *in KDE, LXDE and other DE's. Only GNOME and Ubuntu DE's made by LibreOffice -with a great success- as far as i see. Best regards, Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 59818] VIEWING: Bad Font Rendering in KDE
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 --- Comment #11 from Zeki Bildirici --- I've installed Ubuntu 13.04 and installed to KDE and LXDE over it. KDE's font rendering was bad again, but LXDE's was good. The same with Ubuntu Desktop. I've installed LXDE on Kubuntu 12.10 but font rendering on LXDE was not good. I doubt that i on the only one who cavils about the font rendering in KDE :( -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Zeki Bildirici changed: What|Removed |Added CC||caol...@redhat.com, ||efeyala...@gmail.com --- Comment #12 from Zeki Bildirici --- (In reply to comment #7) > Font rendering is done by LibreOffice, not its platform integration modules, > so I doubt this has anything to do with LibreOffice itself. Please try > running LO in exactly the same environment and compare the results. You can > use After all tests i've done, i can say that font rendering is definitely made by the platform not LibreOffice. May be this is the bug, something by-passes LO? - Font hinting from system settings changes the rendering quality Also in previous message, i said LXDE renders fine, but i was wrong. The strange thing is that, LXDE renders fine, only if there is an Ubuntu session was running behing. If you start with Ubuntu, then log-out and start a new session with LXDE, it will display the fonts fine, no disturbance in zoom factors. But if you restart your computer to a fresh LXDE session, fonts are not rendered good. - The problem exists in all other KDE distors, Mageia, openSUSE, Arch and PisiLinux has the same issue.. Also, i've found this, exactlty the same issue: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=143071 installing patched freetype2 solved his problem, but not worked for me in Kubuntu. Regards, Zeki -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
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https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59818 Michael Meeks changed: What|Removed |Added CC||michael.me...@collabora.com --- Comment #25 from Michael Meeks --- Do you see this Lubos ? :-) [ie. can we mark it NEW]. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
