[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 64830] RTL: Arabic languages spellcheck should be merged into one

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--- Comment #18 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
So, having gone through the comments, there's something I don't understand.

Why does the locale even define the choice of spellchecking dictionaries, at
all? 

First, and in principle - all dictionaries should be active/in-use, with the
language/language-variant of a stretch of text deciding which dictionaries
apply to which part of the text. See also bug 148257. And in this idealized
world, if some text is in, say, Arabic (Iraq), then it would get both the
general Arabic spell-checking dictionary used for it, and the specific Iraqi
dictionary. On the other hand, once you support multi-level dictionaries, you
also need to support "anti-entries", i.e. a word might be valid in Arabic
generally but a local variant would forbid it. I'm guessing we don't have that?

Anyway, continuing with my ideal-world example: The user would want/need the
ability to tweak the defaults. That would mean a list with checkboxes, and a
drop-down list box above it for choosing which language / language-variant you
want to tweak dictionary choice for. There you could decide you want to disable
or enable some dictionaries (and there are also special dictionaries like
"technical" which may be relevant to multiple languages).

And in all of the above, the choice of Locale and of UI language have
absolutely no bearing on anything.

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Stéphane Guillou (stragu)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

  Component|LibreOffice |Linguistic
 CC||so...@libreoffice.org
   Hardware|Other   |All

--- Comment #17 from Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 
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No need to rename this bug report, the more generic bug 83561 already exists.
Added in "See also".

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--- Comment #16 from Erik Quaeghebeur 
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(In reply to Munzir Taha from comment #15)
> @Erik:
> It's correct that "Accept spellcheck files without region" is part of my
> issue as Mr. Khaled pointed out. But I am hesitant to change the title
> because after the fallback mechanism we also need to remove the duplicates.
> Unlike English which you might want to keep en_US, en_GB and fallback to en,
> we shouldn't keep any regions files for Arabic spellchecking.
As Khaled Hosny indicated in Comment 1, the only reason there are country
variants for Arabic now is because LibreOffice isn't able to deal with codes
without a country designation. The same holds for Dutch (and I guess French).

However, if someone wants to create a separate regional variant spellcheck
bundle, e.g., nl_BE for Dutch in Belgium (even if Dutch is standardized for all
countries where Dutch is spoken), such would still need to be accepted by
LibreOffice, as we shouldn't impose restrictions.

In any case, I think it is up to the developers to make the call whether to
change the title or not.

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--- Comment #15 from Munzir Taha  ---
@Erik:
It's correct that "Accept spellcheck files without region" is part of my issue
as Mr. Khaled pointed out. But I am hesitant to change the title because after
the fallback mechanism we also need to remove the duplicates. Unlike English
which you might want to keep en_US, en_GB and fallback to en, we shouldn't keep
any regions files for Arabic spellchecking.

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--- Comment #14 from Erik Quaeghebeur 
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Still present in 6.4.7.2

This bug really complicates how downstreams (such as Linux distributions) need
to deal with spelling/thesaurus/hyphenation files.

Also, again a request to change the title of this bug to something that better
covers the issue. For example, “Accept spellcheck files without region”.

Furthermore, I guess LO should just try to respect bcp47
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--- Comment #13 from Erik Quaeghebeur 
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(In reply to QA Administrators from comment #12)
> If the bug is present, please leave a comment that includes the information
> from Help - About LibreOffice.

Still present in 6.2.5.2.

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--- Comment #11 from Erik Quaeghebeur 
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(In reply to QA Administrators from comment #10)
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> from Help - About LibreOffice.
Still present in 6.0.6.2.

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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||96000
Summary|RTL: The Arabic languages   |RTL: Arabic languages
   |for the CTL spellcheck  |spellcheck should be merged
   |should be merged into one   |into one


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96000
[Bug 96000] [META] Spelling and grammar checking bugs and enhancements
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