[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 70180] Please allow drop caps on one single line

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 70180] Please allow drop caps on one single line

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Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|Allow drop caps to display  |Please allow drop caps on
   |as a raised initial of one  |one single line
   |or more lines   |

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 70180] Please allow drop caps on one single line

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 70180] Please allow drop caps on one single line

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 70180] Please allow drop caps on one single line

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--- Comment #9 from Regina Henschel  ---
I have got some books about typography and there I do not find any reason to
not allow a one-line drop cap. Not only word but InDesign allows it too.

The ODF schema has only the restriction "positive integer" not "at least 2". A
file with style:lines="1" would still be valid against the schema. Only the
description in 19.494 style:lines needs to be changed.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 70180] Please allow drop caps on one single line

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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Created attachment 135700
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=135700=edit
Drop caps in Microsoft Word

Word allows a minimum of 1 at "Lines to drop" (default is 3). Makes no sense to
me, but it also doesn't harm. An advantage could be the improved
interoperability.

Exported from Word as ODT and get this in the file , though in the paragraph properties the drop
caps are disabled.

Regarding the "extra bonus" I'd say it's out of scope and not covered by the
format.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 70180] Please allow drop caps on one single line

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--- Comment #7 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #6)
> I dont get the idea behind this as drop caps is intended to have more than
> one line.

While the classic implementation is as you pointed out, the idea behind the
whole concept is to *highlight* the first character/word of a
paragraph/chapter/... - and *typically* highlighting occurs not only by
different font, but also by different size and spanning across several lines.

But the OP's idea is a plausible extension of the concept, where N in {span
across N lines} could be 1, and highlighting is done only by different font.

Currently one can only implement this using manual assignment of a special
style to first parts of corresponding paragraphs. Which, of course, might lead
to errors (when some are erroneously skipped, or a highlighted portion got
shifted by a find/replace operation and later the highlight wasn't cleared).

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   What|Removed |Added

 CC||philip...@hotmail.com,
   ||rb.hensc...@t-online.de,
   ||tietze.he...@gmail.com,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu

--- Comment #6 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
I dont get the idea behind this as drop caps is intended to have more than one
line.

"With a drop cap, the initial sits within the margins and runs several lines
deep into the paragraph, indenting some normal-sized text in these lines. This
keeps the left and top margins of the paragraph flush." -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initial

@Heiko, @Regina, @Stuart: Your thoughts.

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--- Comment #4 from Y libreoffic...@sfina.com ---
Thank you for the pointer, Mike.  I am at a much earlier stage:
* where do I get the source code from so that I can go int
sw/source/core/text/txtdrop.cxx
* how do I build it and, ideally, install it in parallel to the default
distributed package currently critically important for my productivity without
affecting my system?

I am finishing my mid-term exams in a week and will hopefully find some spare
time to get a build toolchain up and running.

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--- Comment #3 from Mike Kaganski mikekagan...@hotmail.com ---
(In reply to comment #2)
I would begin at sw/source/core/text/txtdrop.cxx (it looks promising).

But even before that, I would recommend you to read ODF documentation
(https://www.oasis-open.org/standards#opendocumentv1.2).
Specifically, OpenDocument spec part 1.

17.9 style:drop-cap
 The style:drop-cap element specifies if the first character or more of a
 paragraph is displayed in a larger font, that spans multiple lines.
 The style:drop-cap element is usable within the following element:
 style:paragraphproperties 17.6.
 The style:drop-cap element has the following attributes: style:distance 
 19.473,
 style:length 19.492, style:lines 19.494 and style:style-name 19.514.
 The style:drop-cap element has no child elements.

19.492 style:length
 The style:length attribute specifies the number of characters that are
 displayed in a larger font.
 The defined values for the style:length attribute are:
 ● word: specifies a set of characters to be displayed in a larger font.
 ● a value of type positiveInteger 18.2
 Note: What will be treated as a “word” by a consumer is locale specific.
 The default value for this attribute is 1.
 The style:length attribute is usable with the following element: 
 style:drop-cap 17.9.
 The values of the style:length attribute are word or a value of type 
 positiveInteger 18.2.

19.494 style:lines
 The style:lines attribute specifies the number of text lines which a font
 spans. If the value of this attribute is 1, style:drop-cap is disabled.
 The default value for this attribute is 1.
 The style:lines attribute is usable with the following element: 
 style:drop-cap 17.9.
 The style:lines attribute has the data type positiveInteger 18.2.

This makes this not an easy affair, because your proposal requires the change
in the standard. It's not impossible, just more work.

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--- Comment #2 from Y libreoffic...@sfina.com ---
Can somebody coach me into the code base?  this look like the kind of fix that
a newbie could attempt.  I have some experience patching and building fairly
large projects like the Linux kernel.  If a kind person can point me in the
right direction, where to get the code from and how to build it in Ubuntu, I
can have a go at implementing my request.

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Mike Kaganski mikekagan...@hotmail.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
   Severity|normal  |enhancement
   Priority|medium  |lowest
 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Mike Kaganski mikekagan...@hotmail.com ---
Thank you for reporting.
This is a valid enhancement request. Setting to NEW.

 Currently the Lines entry in the Drop Caps tab of the Paragraph Style must be
 integer and more than 2

A small correction. Currently it must be 2 or more.

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