[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 73933] TABLE: Numbers are shown from left to right in "Number range" variable when used in RTL scripts.

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--- Comment #13 from Abdelkarim Guettaf  ---
Created attachment 189798
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The image shows the current inversed numbering for Arabic chapters in
LibreOffice

I am from Algeria, and many users here are using LibreOffice. However, they
encounter difficulties when trying to correctly format chapter numbering.
Unfortunately, this essential feature is not available in LibreOffice, which
forces users to resort to manual numbering and write the chapter numbers in
reverse order to avoid this issue.
The attached image displays the current reversed numbering for Arabic chapters
in LibreOffice, and the correct formatting for Arabic chapters

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--- Comment #12 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
In my - admittedly anecdotal - opinion and experience, most people who use RTL
language still expect numbers, or number-like-sequences (e.g. 1.3.2) to be
ordered left-to-right, and that goes in particular for numbering in their
documents. But there are exceptions! So, I would say that _both_ orderings are
valid, and that we should keep the current default, but make it reasonably easy
to have RTL-ordered numbering.

What I'm less sure about:

* Numbering with no strong-LTR characters, in particular no digits (e.g. א.ג.ב)
* Numbers with mixed strong-LTR and strong-RTL characters

Also, we should consider with MS Office does in these different cases.

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*** Bug 88974 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 73933] TABLE: Numbers are shown from left to right in "Number range" variable when used in RTL scripts.

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--- Comment #8 from Eyal Rozenberg  ---
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this issue seems to not be about tables only, but
any case of "nested numbering", e.g. heading numbers and so on.

And you're arguing that the default should be "First number on the left, last
number on the right" rather than "First number comes first, last number comes
last".

Myself, I like the style you argue for when the numbering involves numerals and
Latin characters, but _not_ when it involves RTL language characters. 

Example:

In Hebrew, א is the first character in the alphabet, followed by ב and then ג.
If I read "א.ג" (Aleph on right, then Gimel on left) - I would interpret it as
the third item in the first section/chapter, regardless of whether I read it in
an RTL paragraph or not.

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--- Comment #6 from safa alfulaij safa1996alful...@gmail.com ---
A workaround can be by an option to make LibreOffice reverse the rendering of
the numbers. I mean instead of adding 1 then 2, It adds 2 then 1. It's must be
an option in everything use placeholders, The numbering lists also.

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--- Comment #3 from Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 100142
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Screenshot in LibO 4.2.4

Looks fine to me in 4.2.4 on Debian Linux, see screenshot.

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--- Comment #4 from safa alfulaij safa1996alful...@gmail.com ---
The chapter number in the left and the number of table in the right. It should
be the opposite.

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--- Comment #5 from Lior Kaplan kaplanl...@gmail.com ---
Created attachment 100152
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Screenshot in LibO 4.2.4 with non numbers

I don't agree with you about this, when both characters are numbers, they
should be from left to right. This is also the way numbers are written in both
Hebrew and Arabic.

When one of the characters isn't a number (e.g. a letter), then, and only then
it appears to be affected by the paragraph directionality. This is what happens
in LibO 4.2 and regardless if the letter is in RTL or LTR language, only the
paragraph directionality applies.

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--- Comment #2 from yase...@dr.com ---
A question related to this bug
http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/30201/problem-with-arabic-language-and-book-numbering/

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--- Comment #1 from libreoffice user libreoffice.u...@gmail.com ---
Same problem here.

Operating System: Linux (Other)
Version: 4.2.0.4

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