[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 --- Comment #13 from João Paulo --- I confirm this behavior / bug is still present on: Version: 7.4.0.3 (x64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: f85e47c08ddd19c015c0114a68350214f7066f5a CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19045; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: pt-BR (pt_BR); UI: pt-BR Calc: threaded -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 --- Comment #12 from Regina Henschel --- The "automatic" styles belong to direct formatting. It is not a file format error to keep them, it is allowed. But I dislike it too. Such styles should only be there, if there are objects which use them. If you save the example file in odt-format and then open and re-save it with Word 365, it shrinks from 13KB to 7KB, because Word does not save these useless styles. I consider it a bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||107326 CC||79045_79...@mail.ru, ||rb.hensc...@t-online.de --- Comment #11 from Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> --- Regina, please look at this bug. Are we sure it's a bug? Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107326 [Bug 107326] [META] Writer style bugs and enhancements -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 --- Comment #10 from QA Administrators --- ** Please read this message in its entirety before responding ** To make sure we're focusing on the bugs that affect our users today, LibreOffice QA is asking bug reporters and confirmers to retest open, confirmed bugs which have not been touched for over a year. There have been thousands of bug fixes and commits since anyone checked on this bug report. During that time, it's possible that the bug has been fixed, or the details of the problem have changed. We'd really appreciate your help in getting confirmation that the bug is still present. If you have time, please do the following: Test to see if the bug is still present on a currently supported version of LibreOffice (5.1.6 or 5.2.3 https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ If the bug is present, please leave a comment that includes the version of LibreOffice and your operating system, and any changes you see in the bug behavior If the bug is NOT present, please set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED-WORKSFORME and leave a short comment that includes your version of LibreOffice and Operating System Please DO NOT Update the version field Reply via email (please reply directly on the bug tracker) Set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED - FIXED (this status has a particular meaning that is not appropriate in this case) If you want to do more to help you can test to see if your issue is a REGRESSION. To do so: 1. Download and install oldest version of LibreOffice (usually 3.3 unless your bug pertains to a feature added after 3.3) http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ 2. Test your bug 3. Leave a comment with your results. 4a. If the bug was present with 3.3 - set version to "inherited from OOo"; 4b. If the bug was not present in 3.3 - add "regression" to keyword Feel free to come ask questions or to say hello in our QA chat: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone! Warm Regards, QA Team MassPing-UntouchedBug-20161108 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 --- Comment #9 from QA Administrators --- ** Please read this message in its entirety before responding ** To make sure we're focusing on the bugs that affect our users today, LibreOffice QA is asking bug reporters and confirmers to retest open, confirmed bugs which have not been touched for over a year. There have been thousands of bug fixes and commits since anyone checked on this bug report. During that time, it's possible that the bug has been fixed, or the details of the problem have changed. We'd really appreciate your help in getting confirmation that the bug is still present. If you have time, please do the following: Test to see if the bug is still present on a currently supported version of LibreOffice (5.0.1 or preferably 5.0.2.2 or later) https://www.libreoffice.org/download/ If the bug is present, please leave a comment that includes the version of LibreOffice and your operating system, and any changes you see in the bug behavior If the bug is NOT present, please set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED-WORKSFORME and leave a short comment that includes your version of LibreOffice and Operating System Please DO NOT Update the version field Reply via email (please reply directly on the bug tracker) Set the bug's Status field to RESOLVED - FIXED (this status has a particular meaning that is not appropriate in this case) If you want to do more to help you can test to see if your issue is a REGRESSION. To do so: 1. Download and install oldest version of LibreOffice (usually 3.3 unless your bug pertains to a feature added after 3.3) http://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/ 2. Test your bug 3. Leave a comment with your results. 4a. If the bug was present with 3.3 - set version to "inherited from OOo"; 4b. If the bug was not present in 3.3 - add "regression" to keyword Feel free to come ask questions or to say hello in our QA chat: http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=libreoffice-qa Thank you for your help! -- The LibreOffice QA Team This NEW Message was generated on: 2015-10-14 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 Robinson Tryon (qubit) changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard|NeedAdvice | CC||qu...@runcibility.com --- Comment #8 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) --- Bug is confirmed and status is NEW -> Removing needAdvice tag. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 --- Comment #7 from João Paulo --- To clarify even more: http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/32602/difference-between-styles-and-automatic-styles/ -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 --- Comment #6 from João Paulo --- Just to clarify to Joel Madero: * Default Styles are those which already comes with LibreOffice; * Automatic Styles are those created by LibreOffice automatically every time the user changes the formatting without using styles. LO does that because the OpenDocument Format specs don't allow to use direct formatting, the software has to create the illusion of direct formatting creating automatically (and hidden) styles every time the user apply direct formatting on the document content. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 --- Comment #5 from João Paulo --- I can confirm this on LibreOffice 4.2.6.3 build id 3fd416d4c6db7d3204c17ce57a1d70f6e531ee21 running on Windows Vista 64 bits. I suspected this long ago, LibreOffice just keeps adding automatic styles to the document, so if we create a new one from an older document, it will inherit the automatic styles and the document will be bigger and slower to parse. It is a bug, not a enhancement, as there are people (myself included) which don't use official templates for creating documents - the template is the last document of the same type used. Lawyers do that when writing petitions of the same kind (the facts are changed, but the law it's based remains the same), judges also do that (the suit report and the judgement is changed, but the law it's based remains the same). It also happens because, in Brazil, the petitions don't have a defined form factor, one can use different fonts to make a better emphasis, many times just a word or two of the sentence (which already had emphasis) gets another emphasis by changing the body font (bold, italics, both - I do that), the size (from 12pt to 16pt - I see others doing that), another font entirely or even the color (from black to red, or orange - God forbid people from using blinking letters! On a petition! LOL). It happens a lot when doing evictions, when the consumer doesn't receive what s/he bought etc. Also people who do write reports do that when changing a little bit of the style to make the document feel nicer etc, sometimes it's not the style. Yes, I know we may change the default styles or even create new ones, but it's just not possible to always do that because it's a slow process and we need to be fast when writing, so we just use the formatting tools when is a little bit change that won't be used again on the document. At my office, we use the Flat OpenDocument format (.fodt) (better for backing up, it is much more compressible than the zipped .odt type), but now I see documents with almost 300Kb that, opened using Notepad++, when the contents of the "" node is erased (not the node itself) and saved as another name, the size gets back to less than 90Kb and the document is still normally editable without errors. So the only conclusion is LibreOffice isn't cleaning up its automatic styles, which is a kind of memory leak. Worse still, a persistent one. PS: May I change this bug status as confirmed? I am doing that right after saving this comment. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 João Paulo changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW Ever confirmed|0 |1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 Urmas changed: What|Removed |Added Severity|enhancement |minor --- Comment #4 from Urmas --- That is not 'enhancement'. That is a bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 Jay Philips changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard||NeedAdvice Severity|minor |enhancement -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 --- Comment #3 from Joel Madero --- Urmas - don't be rude please. Again, warned. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 Urmas changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEEDINFO|UNCONFIRMED Ever confirmed|1 |0 --- Comment #2 from Urmas --- Automatic styles are not default. Don't write nonsensical comments, please. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 Jay Philips changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEEDINFO Ever confirmed|0 |1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 Joel Madero changed: What|Removed |Added CC||jmadero@gmail.com --- Comment #1 from Joel Madero --- So you want the styles to just disappear for individual documents? The default styles that come with LibreOffice. If so I disagree with the request and will seek additional input from devs -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 75817] Automatic styles are too persistent
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75817 Urmas changed: What|Removed |Added Attachment #95202|text/plain |application/x-zip mime type|| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs