[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2023-08-24 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #34 from Commit Notification 
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Jun Nogata committed a patch related to this issue.
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Template: tdf#86483: Add Japanese template to the Localization category

It will be available in 24.2.0.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2022-11-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #33 from Commit Notification 
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Kevin Suo committed a patch related to this issue.
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Templates: tdf#86483: Add "Localization" category and add a template for zh_CN

It will be available in 7.5.0.

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2022-11-04 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2022-09-30 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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*** Bug 145654 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2021-11-29 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #31 from Alfonsas Stonis  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #19)
> (In reply to Alfonsas Stonis from comment #18)
> 
> Your situation is different, and is likely a bug (but you need to explain
> your setup in your bug 145654 - e.g., what templates you are talking about -
> have you actually made some pre-defined template active, or are you using no
> template, which is the default; also full info from help->about and detailed
> OS locale settings): we try to make *default* creation of documents to get
> locale settings from LO configuration, and we recently started to clean
> hardcoded info accidentally contained in templates.

Version: 7.2.2.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 20(Build:2)
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.13; UI render: default; VCL: qt5 (cairo+xcb)
Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Ubuntu package version: 1:7.2.2-0ubuntu0.21.10.1
Calc: threaded

Locale is AU, printer is A4, but Calc has no template at all and all documents
are in Letter format.

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LBP started to clean up the shipped Writer templates for bug 143956.

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--- Comment #29 from Ming Hua  ---
(In reply to Ming Hua from comment #28)
> [...] that Western text documents and Chinese text documents have fundamental
> formatting conventions, and therefore users have different expectations. 
Sorry for the typo, I meant "have *fundamentally different* formatting
conventions" here.

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--- Comment #28 from Ming Hua  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #26)
> So this specific proposal needs to clarify
> why some workflow (1) needs the Default template (it isn't properly handled
> by "use a specialized non-"Default" template, e.g. also bundled, or
> available as an extension"); (2) requires the template to include
> locale-specific information; and (3) this all (having those settings in the
> Default template) can't be implemented by existing mechanisms, such as
> clearing up the shared common template to eliminate locale information, and
> making sure that in the absence of that information, it is populated from
> current defaults derived from user-configured locale.
I am not a heavy Writer user and knows little about Writer templates (or
template in general).  But since both the reporter Kevin and I are simplified
Chinese (zh-CN) users, I think I understand him better than most people on
Bugzilla and want to chime in.

Technical details aside (when to use the "Default" template, when to not use
any template at all; whether it's better to have one default template for all
locales, or to have locale-specific ones), I think the issue boils down to that
Western text documents and Chinese text documents have fundamental formatting
conventions, and therefore users have different expectations.  The current
situation is that Writer with default configuration, even with zh-CN locale and
zh-CN UI, doesn't meet the expectations of Chinese users.

The most commonly mentioned example is the formatting of ordinary paragraphs. 
The formatting convention for Chinese text is "first line indent of two
character width, no extra space between paragraphs".  I believe traditional
Chinese (zh-TW and zh-HK) and Japanese also have similar conventions (though
Japan uses one-character indent at the start of paragraph).

Now LO provides the special length unit "Character/ch" when CJK is enabled, but
AFAIK it's not set to default for indents (and the implementation has room for
improvement, but that's another story).  So for Chinese Writer users, no matter
he/she uses "Default" template or not, the first thing to do is adjusting
formatting/style and set them to the Chinese convention.

Is template the correct approach to solve this issue?  Would resolving this
difference achievable with a single "Default" template?  If not, is it better
to have locale-specific template, or is it better to just add a "Chinese Text"
template, and have the zh-CN UI to translate the two "Default" and "Chinese
Text" templates to "Western Text" and "Default" in Chinese instead?  The
aspiring l10n community member probably needs a lot of input from developers
here to figure out where to work on next.

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--- Comment #27 from bugzil...@cb-computerservice.at ---
I think a lot of confusion here comes from the fact, that there are two
different kinds of templates discussed in this report.

With respect to the original reporter, this is about the default "style"
template. Right?

Wheres I and some others talk about default "document" templates. Not sure what
the correct terms for those two different things are though.

If I understand Mike right, localized default "document" Templates are already
possible? So its "just" a matter for the localization teams providing localized
document-templates?

So should we split this report into a part for the default STYLES template and
one for default-document-templates to not have so many misunderstandings? Or
ist it unnecessary because localised default "document"-templates are already
possible, which would render any discussion about it useless?

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--- Comment #26 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #25)

Let me maybe clarify. As requested in comment 0, and repeated in comment 17,
this proposal is specifically about the "Default" template. It is not about
general availability of localized templates; it is also not about documents
created without any templates. So this specific proposal needs to clarify why
some workflow (1) needs the Default template (it isn't properly handled by "use
a specialized non-"Default" template, e.g. also bundled, or available as an
extension"); (2) requires the template to include locale-specific information;
and (3) this all (having those settings in the Default template) can't be
implemented by existing mechanisms, such as clearing up the shared common
template to eliminate locale information, and making sure that in the absence
of that information, it is populated from current defaults derived from
user-configured locale.

I definitely would like if we can avoid having multiple *Default* templates, if
that is possible technically. Note that I do not say that users must "suffer"
because of that; I only tell that possibly we may provide the *same* wanted
ideal user experience with different technical means - and that's why it's so
important to understand specifics what is current problems.

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--- Comment #25 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to bugzilla2 from comment #24)
> Because to me it sounded as if you would doubt, that
> having localized templates is a good idea

Yes I would :-)

> and we all should live with English instead.

And *this* is not what I wrote. I *suspect* (and no, I'm not 100% sure that I'm
right) that most, or many even all, of the perceived problems might be solved
by *fixing* existing *common* templates, and making sure that existing
templates are *not English*, but locale-neutral (which detail I repeat again).

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--- Comment #24 from bugzil...@cb-computerservice.at ---
@Mike Kaganski
If I gave you the impression, that I was attacking you, I really beg you pardon
for that. Attacking anyone was not my intention. I just wanted to add my
opinion on that. Because to me it sounded as if you would doubt, that having
localized templates is a good idea and we all should live with English instead.
So, maybe I just didn't really understand your post. In the end, its just
another example of how important localized templates are :D

> If you tried to read what I wrote in comment 19, 
I have read that comment too, but I didn't refer to that, because it seems like
a printing issue.

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--- Comment #23 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to bugzilla2 from comment #22)
> I guess you are a English native speaker?

I am Russian living in Moscow. But that is unrelated.

> So even if it might be hard to
> believe, not every person in the world does speak or understand English. In
> my opinion, there should not even be a doubt, that having localized
> templates is absolutely necessary.

In the following, you didn't describe even one thing, except your false ideas
that *current* templates bundled in LibreOffice need to be English. If you
tried to read what I wrote in comment 19, you could learn that "we recently
started to clean hardcoded info accidentally contained in templates", and could
guess that ideally the templates are locale-neutral. Please do not try to
attack people based on your totally wrong assumptions (about who your opponent
is, as well about how the program works / what can be done without implementing
specific proposal presented here).

Ant last: I didn't write "this must not be implemented". My request was to
*clarify* the request, so that the need be absolutely obvious without any "this
can't be bad" vague ideas.

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--- Comment #22 from bugzil...@cb-computerservice.at ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #20)
> The proposal *seems* to have obvious-looking upsides. However, it also bears
> downsides. So please consider first if those perceived upsides are real, and
> actually outweigh the problems.

I guess you are a English native speaker? So even if it might be hard to
believe, not every person in the world does speak or understand English. In my
opinion, there should not even be a doubt, that having localized templates is
absolutely necessary.

Of course you are right, it would be cool if every person on earth would
speak/understand perfectly English, but that ist not going to happen soon.

Until then, LibO should make every user feel "home" when working with LibO. And
giving Users English templates doesn't make them feel "home". Some of them may
not even understand what is written there.

And even for persons who do speak perfectly English, its a drawback if the
business letter template (for example) is in English and you have to change so
much to make it fit your language, that its even faster to start from scratch
then use a template.

So as said, there should be no doubt, that localized templates are a good
thing.

BTW: There must exist a possibility for localized templates already, as the
Impression-Templates ARE already localized...

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--- Comment #21 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Kevin Suo from comment #0)

I suggest to specifically expand this:

> For example, for Simplified Chinese users, different Headings and Body Text
> styles (font size, line height, paragraph spacing, paper size etc) should be
> applied in order to fit the Chinese document convention.

Which changes specifically are needed? Why can't they be implemented using our
existing Western/Asian/CTL approach? What requires those - some national
standard? some tradition? Where is that explained? Having those specific bits
could help to understand if existing tooling is adequate or not.

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--- Comment #20 from Mike Kaganski  ---
The proposal *seems* to have obvious-looking upsides. However, it also bears
downsides. So please consider first if those perceived upsides are real, and
actually outweigh the problems.

Additional load on localization and packaging are the smaller ones. The real
problem that I can see would be at user side, and at global community side. The
default template, even though not set active by default, is still used quite
often; and having it different for different locales would (1) result in users
having (more) different behavior of LibreOffice, with steps working for one
user in locale A not working for another using locale B; and consequently, (2)
the local communities would be further isolated, having their specific
workflows, tutorials, etc., instead of having some increasingly solid community
including local communities as integral parts.

I realize that the same may be said for everything locale-specific, and I don't
think this is very special. But the proposal so far have *not* explained a
specific problem it tries to resolve; thus far, it *looks* like "let's do this,
because we can". So I suggest *first* to present the specific need, where
current single default template makes locales less usable than it could be; and
then we need to analyze if those problems could be better addressed by some
programmatic changes, rather than by introducing localized default templates.

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--- Comment #19 from Mike Kaganski  ---
(In reply to Alfonsas Stonis from comment #18)

Your situation is different, and is likely a bug (but you need to explain your
setup in your bug 145654 - e.g., what templates you are talking about - have
you actually made some pre-defined template active, or are you using no
template, which is the default; also full info from help->about and detailed OS
locale settings): we try to make *default* creation of documents to get locale
settings from LO configuration, and we recently started to clean hardcoded info
accidentally contained in templates.

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--- Comment #18 from Alfonsas Stonis  ---
Actually current template is not good for English too. As it sets printer to
letter format, while based on locale it should be A4. It takes some research to
find what is causing every new document to change printer settings from A4 to
letter.

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--- Comment #17 from Kevin Suo  ---
As I explained in the initial bug report, what is suggested here is "default
template per locale", which means that for instance if I install the Simplified
Chinese langpack then there would be a template in the template manager which
should be named as sth like "Simplified Chinese - Default", and if the
LibreOfgice UI is in this language then when we create a new document this
language specific template should be used by default, rather than the English
one. This way, the l10n team can design their template for their language (of
cause in case a language does not have their own template then it should
fallback to the English one.

I am not talking about localized templates. "This default template (i.e., the
current english one) is good for English contents, but for other languages this
template may not be appropriate."

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--- Comment #16 from bugzil...@cb-computerservice.at ---
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #15)
> First of all, what is specifically suggested here, when talking about
> "default template"? Is the template from template manager meant, which is
> named "Default"? Or is any default is meant, which is set to be default by
> user? Or are the program defaults meant, which are used by default, when
> user didn't mark any template as default?

In my opinion, ALL templates that are in the LibO-Installer should be
localized. I think the "default" Template is already localized? At least all
the Heading-Names aso are in german in my install. But the templates from the
quickstarter or Filemenu (File -> New - Template) are NOT localized (exept the
name). So when I choose "business letter"-template for example, the whole
content is english and not german. That makes the temlate useless for most
users that write non-english letters.

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--- Comment #15 from Mike Kaganski  ---
First of all, what is specifically suggested here, when talking about "default
template"? Is the template from template manager meant, which is named
"Default"? Or is any default is meant, which is set to be default by user? Or
are the program defaults meant, which are used by default, when user didn't
mark any template as default?

Offtopic in reply to comment 12:
> I dont't understand
> why on Windows build all the languages are included in a single MSI
> installer. Most users will only install one language, so it makes no sense
> to include all the lang packs. 

It makes perfect sense. Users struggle with modular installers, even on Linux -
try to read any support resource like AskLibO, with all those "Something
doesn't work" => "oh, component X was missing". I don't even talk about
maintenance complexity. See e.g. bug 124992, which suggests to merge help
packages in the same way as we currently have single program package.

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--- Comment #14 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to Kevin Suo from comment #12)
> The most approperiate approach, in my opinion, is to include the templates
> in lang packs, not in help packs. People may never download those help packs
> because they can view it online anytime they need help. We should push the
> users to install the default template of their language for better
> compatibility.

As a Windows user, I always perform a custom install on Windows and do the
following:

1. I deselect all but "English (United States)" of the 119 'User interface
language' list
2. I deselect all but "English" of the 53 'Optional Components' -> 'Dictionary'
list
3. I deselct the "Solver for Non-Linear Programming" bundled extension from
'Optional Components' -> 'Extensions'

The Microsoft Installer packaging of course remembers this "customization" for
upgrades--so it is only with scratch loads that I peform the selections.

That said, while I would have no issue with downloading a set of MSI installers
(core, langpack, helppack, "bundled" extensions) to perform the installation or
an upgrade, it would *greatly* incease the complexity of the build packaging. 

And it would disrupt unit testing that is performed during build for all but
the core build language (en-US of course)--would the localization . It would
also greatly affect the QA process where any localization issues would be stuck
into configuration "silos". Currently working with TinderBox builds of master,
QA have few issues with duplicating Steps to Reproduce for any locale. More
modular installer packaging would greatly impede that.

The final facet to consider is how installations would be updated. With
templates moved to language packs--there would probably need to be both core
.MSI packaging and also .MSP packaging. Again the build and packaging infra
would need major refactoring (with dillution of QA effort).

So, as a counter proposal. Localization of the XML for the document templates
(which really are not that large) and any associated localized graphics/media
should go into the i18tools. Localize the templates, yes! But leave the
monolithic MSI packaging intact for the Windows builds.

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--- Comment #13 from Ming Hua  ---
(In reply to Kevin Suo from comment #12)
> I dont't understand
> why on Windows build all the languages are included in a single MSI
> installer. Most users will only install one language, so it makes no sense
> to include all the lang packs. 
On Windows, the MSI installer will automatically select a small set of
languages (for western European locale usually the locale language and English
(US), I think) for "Typical" installation, and only installs UI and linguistic
tools (spellchecking dictionary, thesaurus, etc.) for those languages.  No
additional downloading of language packs needed.  For users with special needs,
they can choose "Custom" installation instead of "Typical", and hand-pick
whatever language(s) they want.

Regardless the installer size concern, I consider this approach better than
Linux's "find the exact language packs I need" one.

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--- Comment #12 from Kevin Suo  ---
(In reply to bugzilla2 from comment #10)
As per your size concern, on Linux the "language packs" are distributed in
separate rpm/deb packages, and they are normally downloaded from the "Download
LibreOffice" website after the main package. I dont't understand why on Windows
build all the languages are included in a single MSI installer. Most users will
only install one language, so it makes no sense to include all the lang packs. 

The most approperiate approach, in my opinion, is to include the templates in
lang packs, not in help packs. People may never download those help packs
because they can view it online anytime they need help. We should push the
users to install the default template of their language for better
compatibility.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2020-03-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86483

Xisco FaulĂ­  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords||needsUXEval

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2017-12-28 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from bugzil...@cb-computerservice.at ---
Installer-Size came to my mind short after I posted my report...

What about adding the localized templates to the offline-Help-Installer? It
would become an "localized content installer" then.

That way not all people would benefit from it (because I think most people
don't install the offline helpfile) but it wouldn't bloat the installer and it
would be better then pointing users to some extension sites...

OR

Maybe the templates can be put into an extension that is automatically
downloaded (user install) with the current GUI-Language from an trusted
Libo-Server?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2017-12-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Gabor Kelemen  changed:

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 Status|ASSIGNED|NEW
   Assignee|kelem...@ubuntu.com |libreoffice-b...@lists.free
   ||desktop.org

--- Comment #9 from Gabor Kelemen  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8)
> Gabor, didn't you implement this request?

No, that was bug #89676 which turned out to just request localized names and in
that sense, a duplicate of bug #114088 which is indeed fixed for 6.0.

Localized template content is a completely different beast, I can't tackle it
yet.

IIRC, Andras once said these were removed because they raised the installer
size considerably.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2017-12-27 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |ASSIGNED
   Assignee|libreoffice-b...@lists.free |kelem...@ubuntu.com
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--- Comment #8 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Gabor, didn't you implement this request?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2017-12-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #7 from bugzil...@cb-computerservice.at ---
I would also like to see localized templates in LibO. Most of my customers are
not that good in english, so the english templates are not very usefull to
them.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2017-07-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Regina Henschel  changed:

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--- Comment #6 from Regina Henschel  ---
OpenOffice.org (and AOO) has localized templates as long as I remember.
Templates are organized in language-specific folders under share/template. So
the question is more, why LibreOffice has not continued that, and whether the
reason is still valid.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2017-07-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86483

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

   Keywords|needsUXEval |needsDevEval, topicUI
 Status|RESOLVED|NEW
  Component|Writer  |Localization
 Blocks||103314
 Resolution|WONTFIX |---

--- Comment #5 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> I don't think that we can provide localized templates for various if not all
> languages. That's the purpose of the extensions site
> https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates

If the localized teams want to provide localized templates that we can bundle,
that is a good thing to have, but we need to ask devs how feasible it is to
achieve before shooting it down.

We currently have locale specific page sizes, so having locale templates isnt
that much of stretch forward.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103314
[Bug 103314] [META] Templates bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2017-07-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
  Component|LibreOffice |Writer
 Resolution|--- |WONTFIX

--- Comment #4 from Heiko Tietze  ---
I don't think that we can provide localized templates for various if not all
languages. That's the purpose of the extensions site
https://extensions.libreoffice.org/templates

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2014-12-22 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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V Stuart Foote  changed:

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  Component|Libreoffice |ux-advise

--- Comment #2 from V Stuart Foote  ---
Over to the UX-advise pile...

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2014-11-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Jay Philips  changed:

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--- Comment #1 from Jay Philips  ---
Sounds good to me. :D

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86483] FEATURE REQUEST: Implement different default templates per locale

2014-11-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Kevin Suo  changed:

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Summary|FEATURE REQUEST: Implement  |FEATURE REQUEST: Implement
   |different default template  |different default templates
   |per locale  |per locale

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