[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86905] EDITING outline level on non-heading paragraphs does not respect setting in Paragraph > Outline and Numbering > Outline level..

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Timur  changed:

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86905] EDITING outline level on non-heading paragraphs does not respect setting in Paragraph > Outline and Numbering > Outline level..

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Regina Henschel  changed:

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 Resolution|NOTABUG |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #13 from Regina Henschel  ---
Building a chapter numbering via paragraph style (determine outline level and
assign numbering style) is a valid way. Of cause you only need it, if you need
a second chapter numbering range for e.g. an appendix. The problem is, that the
UI does not provide an automatic changing of numbering level, if the outline
level is changed. You need to adapt the numbering level manually. There exists
already bug 62032 for that problem.

In theory a binding between level and style should be possible via conditional
styles. But that is broken for outline levels; that is bug 108907.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 62032 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86905] EDITING outline level on non-heading paragraphs does not respect setting in Paragraph > Outline and Numbering > Outline level..

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--- Comment #12 from Justin L  ---
(In reply to Justin L from comment #11)
> Basically, styles and list numbering are completely separate.

Just to clarify - in a paragraph style, you CAN assign the LIST-STYLE that will
be used by default so in that way there is a connection, but nothing in the
style affects the LEVEL that the list will be at.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86905] EDITING outline level on non-heading paragraphs does not respect setting in Paragraph > Outline and Numbering > Outline level..

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Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75748
[Bug 75748] FILEOPEN: incorrect display of some numbering styles in .DOC and
.DOCX
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86905] EDITING outline level on non-heading paragraphs does not respect setting in Paragraph > Outline and Numbering > Outline level..

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Justin L  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||jl...@mail.com
 Resolution|--- |NOTABUG

--- Comment #11 from Justin L  ---
NOTABUG: As Regina notes in comment 10, outline levels and list levels are not
the same thing.  The user's example is trying to equate the two. To make the
document work as intended by design:
1.)  apply "Heading 4" paragraph style to paragraph 4.
2.)  apply "Custom" list style to paragraph 4.

In terms of being able to use a style OTHER than Heading 4 for the 4th level,
that is possible under "Tools - Chapter numbering".  So in keeping with this
example, you could re-assign level 4 to be paragraph style 'Text body'.

Basically, styles and list numbering are completely separate. Chapter numbering
is a special feature designed to handle a specific use case.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 86905] EDITING outline level on non-heading paragraphs does not respect setting in Paragraph > Outline and Numbering > Outline level..

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Justin L  changed:

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 Blocks||75748
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75
   ||748


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75748
[Bug 75748] FILEOPEN: incorrect display of some numbering styles in .DOC and
.DOCX
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Regina Henschel  changed:

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 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de
 Blocks||103370

--- Comment #10 from Regina Henschel  ---
With this tool the paragraph gets an outline level and a list level. You need
to manually keep them in sync.


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103370
[Bug 103370] [META] Outline/Chapter numbering bugs and enhancements
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--- Comment #7 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
Yuri, thanks for the updates, but maybe it's better to find peers at
ask.libreoffice or users@ to discuss possibilities and details of documents.

In the mean time, IMO this bug report is simply valid and having it fixed would
be great :)
Cor

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--- Comment #8 from Yury yury.tarasiev...@gmail.com ---
I'm just sort of piling on the evidence, to the end that the management of
numbering styles needs serious looking into. My own specific problem I will
solve myself, somehow.

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--- Comment #9 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
(In reply to Yury from comment #8)
 I'm just sort of piling on the evidence, to the end that the management of
 numbering styles needs serious looking into. 

Great. When possible, pls post a brief summary when finished.

 My own specific problem I will solve myself, somehow.

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--- Comment #4 from Yury yury.tarasiev...@gmail.com ---
Unfortunately, that TAB trick works weirdly for me in a document instantiated
from template (in which the numbering style resides). This may or may not be
connected with the original issue.

What happens (right now tested only in 3.6.7.2/linux/amd64) is when I apply
numbering style and outline level to an individual paragraph, and then try to
TAB at the start of numbering (to get the numbers structure reflecting the
level), every upper outline level (of the same numbering style) gets its
'Position' parameter indented by the textual tabulation amount!

More strange, these changes somehow go into the numbering style definition
itself! Like it was having an analog of 'AutoUpdate' option active.

In the template where the numbering style is actually defined, the TAB tricks
works fine.

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--- Comment #5 from Yury yury.tarasiev...@gmail.com ---
...forgot to add the numbering still looks as if being at level 1 !

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--- Comment #6 from Yury yury.tarasiev...@gmail.com ---
Unfortunately, I can't post the document in which this weirdness is definitely
happeningm even after reboot. :)
I can only say this document might have been created from the 'default'
template, and then had been changed with add-on Template Chnager 1.2.5 by
André Schnabel (andreschna...@openoffice.org) to refer to another (specific)
template.

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Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl
   Hardware|x86-64 (AMD64)  |All
Version|4.3.4.1 release |Inherited From OOo
Summary|EDITING outline level can't |EDITING outline level on
   | be set deeper than 1 on|non-heading paragraphs does
   |non-heading paragraphs  |not respect setting in
   ||Paragraph  Outline and
   ||Numbering  Outline level..
 Ever confirmed|0   |1
 OS|Linux (All) |All

--- Comment #2 from Cor Nouws c...@nouenoff.nl ---
Hi Yuri,

I can confirm the bug.

Thanks for filing this.

When you set the cursor at the beginning of your paragraph with level 4 and use
TAB 3 times, it will be there...
But I agree it's no good behaviour.
AFAICR this is already from the OpenOffice-times.

Regards,
Cor

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--- Comment #3 from Yury yury.tarasiev...@gmail.com ---
Thank you! In all years I never knew this trick with TABs, so (hopefully) will
be able to create a stop-gap macro, until this (hopefully) gets fixed.

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