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Unassigning for now, but I might come back to that at some point in time unless
anybody else finds time earlier.

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--- Comment #18 from Michael Weghorn  ---
I've started looking at this in the context of bug 147084, with the document
attached there, but the issue appears to be the same regardless of the
document. 
(However, the NVDA on Windows issue handled in bug 147084 has a different root
cause from the Orca on Linux one covered here.)

>From my observations with current LO master so far, the race only occurs when
using Orca, not e.g. just SAL_ACCESSIBILITY_ENABLED=1, and the issue seems to
be reliably reproducible e.g. with the steps described in comment 9 if Orca is
enabled.
What seems to happen is that a11y objects for paragraphs are created as
response to queries from Orca via AT-SPI, and if that happens, no accessible
event listeners are registered on (some of) the involved a11y objects, so no
events get sent when the cursor/caret moves into the corresponding paragraphs.

I have an idea for potential approaches to fix that, plan to look further into
that as I find time.

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--- Comment #15 from Buovjaga  ---
Bisected on Ubuntu 14.04 (w/ Orca) with 43max to:
commit 69a440abc1db5fd999eae36b86e5098c67a5ca13
Author: Matthew Francis 
Date:   Thu May 28 17:35:24 2015 +0800

source-hash-76c549eb01dcb7b5bf28a271ce00e386f3d388ba

commit 76c549eb01dcb7b5bf28a271ce00e386f3d388ba
Author: Steve Yin 
AuthorDate: Fri Nov 29 13:03:27 2013 +
Commit: Caolán McNamara 
CommitDate: Mon Dec 2 10:25:33 2013 +

Integrate branch of IAccessible2

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--- Comment #14 from Caolán McNamara  ---
I think there's a race here, and some degree of the window size matters
probably too. Under no load this works for me, but if things are slowed down,
e.g. by the presence of a screen reader working then when the cursor enters the
table the table toolbar appears at the bottom of the window and the viewport of
the document changes which causes the a11y cells contexts to be destroyed.

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--- Comment #13 from Alex ARNAUD  ---
Dear all,

The issue is still present on LibreOfficeDev 5.5 from 2017-05-30.

Best regards.

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--- Comment #11 from Alex ARNAUD  ---
In LibreOffice 5.1.1 I'm able to reproduce.

Steps :
1) Open the document
2) Launch the script
3) Move down (event should appear)
4) Move down to the second line : no event appears

We are some people able to reproduce the bug so It seems it was confirmed.

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--- Comment #10 from Matthew Francis fdb...@neosheffield.co.uk ---
I couldn't reproduce text-caret-moved not being emitted while moving in the
table.


I did see that moving downwards sometimes emitted duplicate events, which I
guess is unexpected

That is to say, moving upwards within a table cell made the attached script
output e.g.

object:text-caret-moved(-1, 0, 0)
source: [paragraph | ]
host_application: [application | soffice]
object:text-caret-moved(7, 0, 0)
source: [paragraph | ]
host_application: [application | soffice]


While moving downward within a table cell sometimes produced output like this:

object:text-caret-moved(-1, 0, 0)
source: [paragraph | ]
host_application: [application | soffice]
object:text-caret-moved(7, 0, 0)
source: [paragraph | ]
host_application: [application | soffice]
object:text-caret-moved(7, 0, 0)
source: [paragraph | ]
host_application: [application | soffice]

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--- Comment #9 from Niklas Johansson sleeping.pil...@gmail.com ---
I can confirm that there are still problems in this area but not always. If I
open the test case file and press down-arrow i do get carret-moved events but
if I start by pressing right arrow 8 times and then down arrow then the problem
is back.

So steps to reproduce:
1. Open the attached document
2. Launch the attached accessible-event listener in a terminal
3. Press right arrow 8 times
4. Press down arrow 2 times

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Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu changed:

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 Status|RESOLVED|UNCONFIRMED
 CC||te...@accelibreinfo.eu
 Resolution|WORKSFORME  |---

--- Comment #8 from Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu ---
Hi,

I've just tested, the bug is still here on latest master, 5.0. Sorry but it's
very boring for users to handle tables /ith this problem.

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--- Comment #7 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com ---
(In reply to Jean-Philippe MENGUAL from comment #6)
 Hi,
 
 While the things worked fine /ith 4.2.8.2, the bug appears in 4.3.0.1.
 Something happened in Writer which created a regression.
 
 What kind of output could help?

Please test with 4.3.6 -- if it's still there, we could theoretically
investigate backporting a fix to 4.3

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Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu changed:

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Version|4.3.3.2 release |4.3.0.1 rc

--- Comment #6 from Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu ---
Hi,

While the things worked fine /ith 4.2.8.2, the bug appears in 4.3.0.1.
Something happened in Writer which created a regression.

What kind of output could help?

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--- Comment #5 from Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com ---
I can confirm that this is working with the nightly version of LibreOffice
Writer. Orca is presenting the table cell contents now. Thanks!

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Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com changed:

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 Attachment #111289|text/plain  |application/vnd.openxmlform
  mime type||ats-officedocument.wordproc
   ||essingml.document
 CC||qu...@runcibility.com

--- Comment #3 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com ---
Comment on attachment 111289
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test case

fix mimetype

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Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED
 Resolution|--- |WORKSFORME

--- Comment #4 from Robinson Tryon (qubit) qu...@runcibility.com ---
TESTING with Ubuntu 14.04 + LO 4.3.5.2 and 4.4.0.1

(In reply to Joanmarie Diggs from comment #0)
 Steps to reproduce:
 1. Open attachment 111289
 2. Launch the attached accessible-event listener in a terminal
 3. Arrow amongst the characters at the top of the document
 4. Arrow amongst the characters in the table
 
 Expected results: Accessible caret-moved events would be seen each time the
 caret moves.

Yes

 Actual results: Accessible caret-moved events are seen when the caret moves
 outside the table; but no caret-moved events are seen when the caret moves
 inside the table.

NOREPRO: I'm seeing caret-moved events whenever I arrow up/down/left/right,
whether inside or outside the table.

Perhaps this is fixed in 4.3/4.4 now? Jean-P says he can repro in 4.3.5, but
I'm not seeing it.
I'll Resolve as WFM. Set back to UNCONFIRMED if you can still see the problem
with 4.4.0.1 or later.

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--- Comment #1 from Joanmarie Diggs jdi...@igalia.com ---
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accessible-event listener

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Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu changed:

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Version|unspecified |4.3.3.2 release

--- Comment #2 from Jean-Philippe MENGUAL te...@accelibreinfo.eu ---
The bug is still here in 4.3.5, e.g. the latest Evolution available on the TDF
website.

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