[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2016-10-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89676

Yousuf Philips (jay)  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||c...@nouenoff.nl,
   ||philip...@hotmail.com,
   ||tietze.he...@gmail.com,
   ||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu
   See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda
   ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10
   ||3317
 Blocks||103314

--- Comment #2 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Hi Martin & Sophie,

Now that i'm currently working on updating the default templates for impress in
bug 103317, i'd like to see what can be done about the localization issues at
the same time.

>From what i can see, impress templates are localized, as the temporary textbox
texts like 'Click to add Title' and 'Click to add Text' are changed to the
localized equivalents when the template is opened. The only thing that isnt
localized seems to be the previews, as it shows up with localized text based on
the locale of the user who last saved the template file. So i see a few options
to deal with the preview.

1) Have the preview blank without text
2) Have a defined dummy text used for the title and context text (used in
iWork)
3) Use the template's english name as the title text (used in MSO)


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103314
[Bug 103314] [META] Templates bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2016-10-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89676

--- Comment #3 from mi...@filmsi.net ---
Hi,

using English, non-localized text is the worst thing.

I would suggest to use dummy text, if possible word "LibreOffice".

I am not sure about the script/font used to represent it (i.e. if in Chinese or
Japanese latin letters are supposed to be represented).

Lp, m.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2016-10-18 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89676

--- Comment #4 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to miles from comment #3)
> Hi,

Hey,

> using English, non-localized text is the worst thing.
> 
> I would suggest to use dummy text, if possible word "LibreOffice".

So "LibreOffice" for the title and dummy latin text for the subtitle/context
text?

> I am not sure about the script/font used to represent it (i.e. if in Chinese
> or Japanese latin letters are supposed to be represented).

It would use the font assigned in the template.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2016-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #5 from sophie  ---
+1 with Martin's comments and thanks a lot for your work Jay! If you want me to
have a look at the templates set before embedding it, don't hesitate to poke
me. Sophie

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2016-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89676

--- Comment #6 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
Created attachment 128073
  --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=128073&action=edit
sample thumbnails

So here are 6 variants of the thumbnail that would be used in the first
template i'm working on. Let me know which you like and it will be used for all
impress templates.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2016-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89676

--- Comment #7 from V Stuart Foote  ---
@Jay, *

I think the pure Lorem ipsum on the lower right is going to be best for a
generic title and content. 

Also, for CJK and CTL script localizations don't we already provide a suitable
replacement, e.g. on the Paragraph dialog -> Font tab?

And, sense it can be culturally sensitive if the defaults are
objectionable--can we allow the localization team member to choose a more
appropriate generic string for the locale?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2016-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89676

--- Comment #8 from V Stuart Foote  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #7)
> 
> Also, for CJK and CTL script localizations don't we already provide a
> suitable replacement, e.g. on the Paragraph dialog -> Font tab?
> 

Here I think...

http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svtools/source/misc/sampletext.cxx#219

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2016-10-19 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89676

--- Comment #9 from Yousuf Philips (jay)  ---
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #7)
> I think the pure Lorem ipsum on the lower right is going to be best for a
> generic title and content. 

The actual template wont be having this text, its only the preview of the
template that will be modified.

> Also, for CJK and CTL script localizations don't we already provide a
> suitable replacement, e.g. on the Paragraph dialog -> Font tab?

As the preview is an image, there is no means to localize. If a preview
suitable for CJK and CTL is needed, then we'll have to ship multiple versions
of the template, which would be a waste of space in my view.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 89676] 4.4.x: Bundled templates are not localizable

2015-02-26 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89676

sophie  changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
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 Ever confirmed|0   |1
   Severity|normal  |enhancement

--- Comment #1 from sophie  ---
Hi Martin, 
So I bring the topic to ESC, here are the plans:
l10n Update (Sophie)
+ some people unhappy about the templates - they are not localized
+ planned for 4.5 (Kendy)
+ cannot ship 100x each template, the plan is to have the template
once, but strings separate (Kendy)
+ possible to use autocorrect mechanism + go through pootle (Miklos)
+ will sync with Miklos offline (Kendy)
Lets continue to discuss this on the l10n list, strings are not the only thing
to handle when localizing templates :)
I set the bug on New and enhancement - Sophie

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