[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration ( including two keybindings for the same action)

2018-01-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92686

Heiko Tietze  changed:

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists |tietze.he...@gmail.com
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 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #11 from Heiko Tietze  ---
To keep topics together I make this a dup of the older ticket. Situation has
improved slightly with a search function but is far from being good. It's not
forgotten however.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 52335 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92686

--- Comment #9 from Jakub Narębski  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #8)
> Hi Jakub,
> 
> (In reply to Jakub Narębski from comment #7)
> 
> > I have created *this* issue because of annoying behavior wrt. adding
> > duplicated keybinding to the same function. This is a separate issue, and I
> > can raise a separate (and quick to fix) bug report.
> 
> Yes please do.

Created new bug report for adding a label / help text to keyboard configuration
window as bug 92700 (in UI)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92686

--- Comment #8 from Cor Nouws  ---
Hi Jakub,

(In reply to Jakub Narębski from comment #7)

> I have created *this* issue because of annoying behavior wrt. adding
> duplicated keybinding to the same function. This is a separate issue, and I
> can raise a separate (and quick to fix) bug report.

Yes please do.
Side note: applying two bindings for the same is easier when you first select
the function, without bothering the keys list, and after that selecting the
proper key by putting the focus in the list and pressing the desired key. But
hard to tell that in the current UI without real help text, I think.

> There remains long term issue that needs a discussion about best UI for
> assigning keybindings (for keyboard configuration), for example whether to
> make it more similar to what MS Word 2007 does, or what Atom editor does.

I think there are great improvements in the page that Heiko pointed to. (Alas
there is still work to do, as far as I am aware, to solve the negative effect
of that re-design on customization of events).

Thanks so far!
Cor

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92686

--- Comment #7 from Jakub Narębski  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #6)
> (In reply to Jakub Narębski from comment #5)
> 
> > > When the focus is in the list with keys, and you hit Ctrl+F, the focus
> > > immediately jumps to that key, showing the info you are looking for..
> > 
> > What is lacking is small text above this list with e.g. "Press key
> > combination you want to change", or something like that.
> 
> That would indeed a better UI. Is it OK for you to make this issue reflect
> just that suggestion?

I have created *this* issue because of annoying behavior wrt. adding duplicated
keybinding to the same function. This is a separate issue, and I can raise a
separate (and quick to fix) bug report.

There remains long term issue that needs a discussion about best UI for
assigning keybindings (for keyboard configuration), for example whether to make
it more similar to what MS Word 2007 does, or what Atom editor does.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92686

--- Comment #6 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Jakub Narębski from comment #5)

> > When the focus is in the list with keys, and you hit Ctrl+F, the focus
> > immediately jumps to that key, showing the info you are looking for..
> 
> What is lacking is small text above this list with e.g. "Press key
> combination you want to change", or something like that.

That would indeed a better UI. Is it OK for you to make this issue reflect just
that suggestion?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92686

--- Comment #5 from Jakub Narębski  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #4)
> (In reply to Jakub Narębski from comment #0)
> 
> > Scrolling through the list of possible keybindings is tedious, compared to
> > MS Word / MS Office (and Atom editor) solution of just entering key we want
> > to assign (the advantage is that you see if it is free or not at first
> > glance). 
> 
> When the focus is in the list with keys, and you hit Ctrl+F, the focus
> immediately jumps to that key, showing the info you are looking for..

What is lacking is small text above this list with e.g. "Press key combination
you want to change", or something like that.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Cor Nouws  changed:

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--- Comment #4 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Jakub Narębski from comment #0)

> Scrolling through the list of possible keybindings is tedious, compared to
> MS Word / MS Office (and Atom editor) solution of just entering key we want
> to assign (the advantage is that you see if it is free or not at first
> glance). 

When the focus is in the list with keys, and you hit Ctrl+F, the focus
immediately jumpes to that key, showing the info you are looking for..

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92686

--- Comment #3 from Jakub Narębski  ---
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Have you read this, Jakub?
> http://user-prompt.com/how-to-make-libreoffice-customization-usable/

No I haven't. Thanks for pointing it. I especially like the fuzzy search idea
for functions and for groups / menus.

There are however a few issues that this blog post doesn't touch.

1.) There is no information anywhere that you can press a key combination to go
to it, to appropriate line in "Shortcut keys" - it should be in a label, or at
least in a hint.

2.) It doesn't touch the current difficulty of assigning second key to an
action.

3.) There is also an usability issue (that I forgot to mention) that clicking
'OK' instead of 'Modify' after selecting function looses all your work on the
last shortcut. Perhaps better solution would be to click Modify first, then
open a wizard to select a function...

4.) Ctrl-Alt vs AltGr issue, and inability to assign for example Ctrl-Alt-n or
Ctrl-Alt-Shift-N to any function when using Polish keyboard with ń and Ń.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-12 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #2 from Heiko Tietze  ---
Have you read this, Jakub?
http://user-prompt.com/how-to-make-libreoffice-customization-usable/

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 92686] FEATURE REQUEST: Better UI for keyboard bindings configuration (including two keybindings for the same action)

2015-07-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92686

Joel Madero  changed:

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 Ever confirmed|0   |1

--- Comment #1 from Joel Madero  ---
UX needs to decide this one. Pushing to NEW and setting component to ux-advise.

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