[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93066] Start Center non-app accelerators
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93066 Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org changed: What|Removed |Added CC|libreoffice-ux-advise@lists | |.freedesktop.org| Component|ux-advise |UI --- Comment #2 from Adolfo Jayme f...@libreoffice.org --- (In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #0) Now that the app accelerators were changed in bug 91776, it would be useful to change the non-app accelerators as well. You have not provided any rationales for arbitraringly change the working accelerators we have currently. O_pen File O_pen Remote File R_ecent Files Te_mplates Hel_p Ex_tensions Never, EVER, use lowercase “p” as accelerators (nor g, j, q, y). The descenders conflict with the underline. (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1) No the only one that should be changed is the new _Open Remote File which conflicts with _Open File Not really, actually, since “Open Remote File” should not exist in the first place; that button should be merged with “Open File” by using a drop-down menu. Notice that in your suggestion you would be duplicating accelerators for Templates and Help, as well as Open File and Open Remote File. That is not good UI/UX, and bug 91776 was mainly to fix the duplicate use of r as an accelerator. +1 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93066] Start Center non-app accelerators
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93066 Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC||f...@libreoffice.org, ||heiko.tie...@user-prompt.co ||m --- Comment #3 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1) No the only one that should be changed is the new _Open Remote File which conflicts with _Open File The main menu has ~File ~Tools ~Help ... Notice that in your suggestion you would be duplicating accelerators for Templates and Help, as well as Open File and Open Remote File. That is not good UI/UX, and bug 91776 was mainly to fix the duplicate use of r as an accelerator. Accelerators for the main menu dont have to do with accelerators for the start center, so there isnt any duplication there. Or am i mistaken about this, because without pressing Alt you cant get to menu accelerators. (In reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #2) O_pen File O_pen Remote File R_ecent Files Te_mplates Hel_p Ex_tensions Never, EVER, use lowercase “p” as accelerators (nor g, j, q, y). The descenders conflict with the underline. If you had looked closely, you would have seen that the list you are going through wasnt my suggestion, but what is currently there, only thing was that i mistakenly put the accelerator after the letter rather than before it, which Stuart caught in his reply. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93066] Start Center non-app accelerators
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93066 --- Comment #4 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu --- (In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #3) Accelerators for the main menu dont have to do with accelerators for the start center, so there isnt any duplication there. Or am i mistaken about this, because without pressing Alt you cant get to menu accelerators. No, when we have a window with a the mix of both src and .UI exposing accelerators we need to be especially careful about them as they appear the same visually. When they are mixed, as in the StartCenter, in addition to menu widget accelerators that respond with Alt combinations, keyboard navigation between .UI widgets with F6 or F10 really requires that we NOT have any duplicate accelerators defined on any active window. They coexist, but it is poor attention to detail if we allow duplicates. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93066] Start Center non-app accelerators
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93066 --- Comment #5 from Yousuf (Jay) Philips philip...@hotmail.com --- (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4) They coexist, but it is poor attention to detail if we allow duplicates. So is this also true with the sidebar, as we have duplicated between the menu bar (e.g. _Insert) and the sidebar (e.g. _Indent). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93066] Start Center non-app accelerators
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93066 --- Comment #6 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu --- (In reply to Yousuf (Jay) Philips from comment #5) (In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #4) They coexist, but it is poor attention to detail if we allow duplicates. So is this also true with the sidebar, as we have duplicated between the menu bar (e.g. _Insert) and the sidebar (e.g. _Indent). Yep, and those accelerators present in the Sidebar panel are screwy anyhow. Not sure when they got stuck in , but you have to navigate into the specific Content Panel of the Deck before they respond at all as accelerators. Ugly UX. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 93066] Start Center non-app accelerators
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93066 V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED CC||vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #1 from V Stuart Foote vstuart.fo...@utsa.edu --- @Jay, No the only one that should be changed is the new _Open Remote File which conflicts with _Open File The main menu has ~File ~Tools ~Help The rest of the .UI based accelerators (post bug 91776) are _Recent Files T_emplates _Writer Document _Calc Spreadsheet _Impress Presentation _Draw Drawing _Math Formula _Base Database He_lp E_xtension Notice that in your suggestion you would be duplicating accelerators for Templates and Help, as well as Open File and Open Remote File. That is not good UI/UX, and bug 91776 was mainly to fix the duplicate use of r as an accelerator. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
