[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2017-08-13 Thread bugzilla-daemon
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94556

Regina Henschel  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
 CC||rb.hensc...@t-online.de
 Resolution|--- |DUPLICATE

--- Comment #29 from Regina Henschel  ---
There are a lot of bug reports about problems with borders. I have chosen bug
85909 as "active" bug and set the others to duplicate. Please continue there.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 85909 ***

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2017-02-11 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2017-01-03 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-10 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #27 from bellga...@iftc.uni-hannover.de ---
(In reply to Joel Madero from comment #25)
> Updating version per the second to last comment - assuming that means OOo
> 2.0 which means this was inherited.

Sorry, I am not quite sure what was the exact problem in OOo 2, because for a
long time I didn't use the build-in tables in Impress but only work-arounds. 

I checked it again with LO 3.4 and found - same as Cor - the border update is
working. But the border dialog has more problems there: After opening the
dialog, that border preview window doesn't show any actual border style at all.
So, the usability problem described in my comment 6 became a bit less serious
in LO 5 than before. 

On the other hand, the line style selection in LO 3.4 has many choices (solid,
dashed ...), while in LO 5 only solid and empty are available.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Joel Madero  changed:

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Version|Inherited From OOo  |5.0.2.2 release

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #26 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Joel Madero from comment #25)
> Updating version per the second to last comment - assuming that means OOo
> 2.0 which means this was inherited.


In LO 3.3.0 changes in borders show up immediately...

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-09 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Joel Madero  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Version|5.0.2.2 release |Inherited From OOo

--- Comment #25 from Joel Madero  ---
Updating version per the second to last comment - assuming that means OOo 2.0
which means this was inherited.

Version field is the oldest version that the bug shows itself, not the latest
tested on. This eliminates the chance that it's a regression, no way to
bibisect it, nothing else for QA to do really. On a volunteer developer to
tackle it at this point. To me this is a minor bug by definition (maybe minor -
high to reflect the annoying nature of it) but I don't want to mess with it and
cause any flame wars.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #24 from Beluga  ---
(In reply to bellgardt from comment #23)
> > Any ideas how this was in older versions?
> 
> This bug existed already in version 2.

Do you mean OpenOffice.org version 2.0?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-08 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #23 from bellga...@iftc.uni-hannover.de ---
> Any ideas how this was in older versions?

This bug existed already in version 2.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Joel Madero  changed:

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 CC||jmadero@gmail.com

--- Comment #22 from Joel Madero  ---
(In reply to David from comment #18)
> Wow, comments like that kill participation. All I can say is what a jerk.
> 
> How about I stop contributing my time testing and reporting bugs since my
> participation clearly isn't as meaningful as yours.

Just to clarify - I'm not a developer either and thus, when I report bugs
(which I've reported quite a few), I don't say "this needs to get fixed" as
it's not my time that is needed to fix it. If a volunteer tackles it one day,
awesome, else, I'll wait patiently and continue doing my part to make the
project better (reporting, triaging, etc... etc...). If that makes me a jerk, I
suppose I can accept that.

Anywho, I wasn't trying to pick a fight or take the subject off topic, I was
just trying to keep expectations realistic. If you're unhappy with volunteer
developers tackling bugs as they please (and adding features as they please),
then yes, I suppose this isn't the project for you

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #21 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to David from comment #16)
> Yes, it is all about developer engagement. Unfortunately, many bugs only
...

not to forget clear and good triaged issues, bibisecting, and finished easy
hacks.. ;)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #20 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #15)
> (In reply to David from comment #13)
> > While bugs like these seem trivial the frustration they cause can be
> > [...]
> > LO should do the simple things well. They're the things everyone expects an
> > office suite to do and do properly so NO these annoying little bugs are not
> > trivial. They need to get sorted out once and for all *before* new features
> > are added.
> 
> I only can agree - any helping hand on any area is useful :)

Sorry, have to withdraw my support here.
I meant to support that it's annoying needs attention etc usw.
But I did skip reading the end. And it is no option (for multiple reasons) that
bugs get "sorted out once and for all *before* new features are added."
That really is impossible and not going to work.
Sorry for the confusion. 
Cor

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #19 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Beluga from comment #10)
> (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #9)
> > No reason to set this to minor, I think.. 
> 
> Can be seen as minor according to our evil system:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/06/Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.
> jpg

I read "does the bug involve a serious glitch"
So this flow chart results in setting Severity to Major?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #18 from David  ---
Wow, comments like that kill participation. All I can say is what a jerk.

How about I stop contributing my time testing and reporting bugs since my
participation clearly isn't as meaningful as yours.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Joel Madero  changed:

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--- Comment #17 from Joel Madero  ---
> 
> LO should do the simple things well. They're the things everyone expects an
> office suite to do and do properly so NO these annoying little bugs are not
> trivial. They need to get sorted out once and for all *before* new features
> are added.

This is not how the project works - the non-contributors *do not* dictate when
*volunteers* fix bugs (or add feature). With that I'm removing myself from this
conversation.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #16 from David  ---
Yes, it is all about developer engagement. Unfortunately, many bugs only show
themselves in specific appearance conditions to they don't affect many people.
Only easily reproducible bugs affecting lots of users can be targeted
effectively.

Still, it is important to keep posting bug reports in the hope that they get
sorted. IMO, frustrating bugs that are present across multiple versions of LO
(and perhaps present for years) should be targeted as high priority.

I have had so many clients give up on LO because simple things that are taken
for granted in M$ Office fail to work properly here. Many of these issues are
present even in the so-called "stable" LO releases.

Tables and table borders are one area where the code base needs a complete
overhaul.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #15 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to David from comment #13)
> While bugs like these seem trivial the frustration they cause can be
> [...]
> LO should do the simple things well. They're the things everyone expects an
> office suite to do and do properly so NO these annoying little bugs are not
> trivial. They need to get sorted out once and for all *before* new features
> are added.

I only can agree - any helping hand on any area is useful :)

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #14 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Beluga from comment #12)

> I'd rather treat the level of annoyance with priority. Severity describes
> the sheer horror (crashing, data loss) or triviality (some element not
> rendered immediately) of the situation.

Sounds logic.
But could it be that priority is related to developer engagement?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #13 from David  ---
While bugs like these seem trivial the frustration they cause can be
significant. When I encountered problems with table cell borders yet *again* I
was almost ready to give up on LO.

LO has advanced into such a wonderful, mature application suite yet we are
still plagued by "trivial* bugs that never seem to get fixed. They do affect
usability and to such a degree that it makes the software questionable for
serious office work.

LO should do the simple things well. They're the things everyone expects an
office suite to do and do properly so NO these annoying little bugs are not
trivial. They need to get sorted out once and for all *before* new features are
added.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #12 from Beluga  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #11)
> (In reply to Beluga from comment #10)
> > (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #9)
> > > No reason to set this to minor, I think.. 
> > 
> > Can be seen as minor according to our evil system:
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/06/Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.
> > jpg
> 
> Hmm, could well be. But IMO if average users change a border setting and the
> change is not visible, that's utterly annoying and a big minus for the user
> experience. So if it's clear how to reproduce reliable and simple (I'm not
> going to try that, sorry, time over..) I'd rather set it to major ;)

I'd rather treat the level of annoyance with priority. Severity describes the
sheer horror (crashing, data loss) or triviality (some element not rendered
immediately) of the situation.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #11 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to Beluga from comment #10)
> (In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #9)
> > No reason to set this to minor, I think.. 
> 
> Can be seen as minor according to our evil system:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/06/Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.
> jpg

Hmm, could well be. But IMO if average users change a border setting and the
change is not visible, that's utterly annoying and a big minus for the user
experience. So if it's clear how to reproduce reliable and simple (I'm not
going to try that, sorry, time over..) I'd rather set it to major ;)

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2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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--- Comment #10 from Beluga  ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #9)
> No reason to set this to minor, I think.. 

Can be seen as minor according to our evil system:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/0/06/Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.jpg

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 94556] Table borders do not reflect changes properly - refreshing problem?

2015-11-07 Thread bugzilla-daemon
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Cor Nouws  changed:

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Summary|Table Border Bug|Table borders do not
   ||reflect changes properly -
   ||refreshing problem?
   Severity|minor   |normal

--- Comment #9 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to bellgardt from comment #6)
> This bug drove me crazy already many times. I can confirm the strange

I saw yesterday that it is enough to move the table a bit, to make changes show
up. So looks a refreshment problem?
No reason to set this to minor, I think.. 

Any ideas how this was in older versions?

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