[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #39 from Dave Close --- And probably no point to opening a different ticket, with or without a special tag. It seems clear to me that the developers don't care about text buttons. If anyone cared, the comments in this ticket should be enough to get them started, without the need for a user to open a ticket. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97 ||866 --- Comment #38 from Timur --- (In reply to Dave Close from comment #37) > Nobody seems to notice that this change affects those of us who use text > buttons rather than icons. Using a different icon has no effect on a text > button. Is this just another example of treating text as a second-class (or > last-class) alternative? Doesn't anybody on the "design team" even try to > use text and see if it actually works? As already written: no point in continuing discussion in a closed bug, please open a new one and add needsUXEval in keywords. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #37 from Dave Close --- Nobody seems to notice that this change affects those of us who use text buttons rather than icons. Using a different icon has no effect on a text button. Is this just another example of treating text as a second-class (or last-class) alternative? Doesn't anybody on the "design team" even try to use text and see if it actually works? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 tommy27 changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98 ||779 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 tommy27 changed: What|Removed |Added See Also||https://bugs.documentfounda ||tion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98 ||193 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 Timur changed: What|Removed |Added CC||wjsma...@gmail.com --- Comment #36 from Timur --- *** Bug 98649 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 rob...@familiegrosskopf.de changed: What|Removed |Added CC||peter_ologhl...@optusnet.co ||m.au --- Comment #35 from rob...@familiegrosskopf.de --- *** Bug 97561 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. *** -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #34 from Jan Holesovsky --- No point in continuing discussion in a closed bug, opened a new one for the Human theme: bug 97866 -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #33 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk --- (In reply to Maxim Monastirsky from comment #32) > (In reply to tim from comment #26) > > So the Save button on my system is very different from the new 'Not Saved' > > icon, which is why I'm content. > That's because you're using the Human icon theme, which doesn't have "not > saved" icon, so it fallbacks to Tango theme for this particular icon. Any > suggestions for a Human "not saved" icon are welcome. If you say so. I'm not aware of using any specific theme, and my libreoffice doesn't mention it at all. Never mind :) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #32 from Maxim Monastirsky --- (In reply to tim from comment #26) > So the Save button on my system is very different from the new 'Not Saved' > icon, which is why I'm content. That's because you're using the Human icon theme, which doesn't have "not saved" icon, so it fallbacks to Tango theme for this particular icon. Any suggestions for a Human "not saved" icon are welcome. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #31 from Andy --- Created attachment 122625 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=122625&action=edit More visible signal of the need to save -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #30 from Andy --- I just had a look at the attachment, the "blue star" is visible but not overwhelmingly so, I would try and make it stand out more... this is an indicator nobody stares into for a long time, rather something that should be easy to spot in a quick glance. I am not used to these (because I'm a windoze user or a user of a different icon set), but the 2 are clearly different (the difference between them is much more evident than the blue star), unfortunately they really suggest two different things: a hard disk the "saved" one and a floppy disk for the "needs saving" one. So I must say that I don't find them fitting, as their difference should convey a meaning that is different from their visual content. IMHO an icon is as good as is intuitive in visually conveying the concept it stands for. Alternatively, I would avoid differing icons and opt for a much more visible and "alarming" signal on the icon, such a bog red point (="ALARM!! this need to be saved!!!") as I placed in my attachment. This said, I must admit that the whole business of changing the standard behaviour of the save icon still appears somewhat a waste of energies more usefully spent of other more urgent issues to me. It is really the LAST thing I would have voted as neeeding urgent care... but opinions differ obviously so that's it. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #29 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk --- Created attachment 122611 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=122611&action=edit This needs saving This one needs to be saved. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #28 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk --- Created attachment 122610 --> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=122610&action=edit document has been saved This is a writer doc that has been saved. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #27 from tommy27 --- @tim please post a screenshot so we may better understand what you are describing -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #26 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk --- I'm on ubuntu 14.04, not using any theme for libreoffice, but possibly employing some ubuntu theme. So the Save button on my system is very different from the new 'Not Saved' icon, which is why I'm content. The background colour is different, so the addition of the star just adds even more to it. It's light grey with a green arrow when saved, and a dark brown floppy disc icon with star when not saved. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #25 from Jan Holesovsky --- [Similarly you can get location of other icon themes, just change the 'galaxy' to eg. 'tango' etc. - to get the other themes. Full list of themes is here: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/tree/icon-themes Thank you in advance for your contributions!] -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #24 from Jan Holesovsky --- John, Andrej: We would very welcome your contribution to the project! The save icons are here: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/plain/icon-themes/galaxy/cmd/lc_save.png https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/plain/icon-themes/galaxy/cmd/sc_save.png The current 'not saved' variants are here: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/plain/icon-themes/galaxy/res/savemodified_large.png https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/plain/icon-themes/galaxy/res/savemodified_small.png Can you please propose better variants? Best to open a new bugreport though. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #23 from andrej8anu...@gmail.com --- Sorry, but I must agree that a "faint blue star is a poor replacement of the very clear status indicator which existed before" . Hope it can be replaced with something more clear. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #22 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk --- I've just installed Version: 5.1.0.3 Build ID: 1:5.1.0~rc3-0ubuntu1~trusty0. The new 'not saved' indication is fine on my system - it shows very clearly. Thanks. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #21 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk --- This indication does need to be very clear. To cut a longish story short there are issues with Base (and maybe other modules) and Macros whereby if you do not manually save first, but close and wait until it asks if you want to save and then say 'save', it tends to crash quite frequently. Unfortunately I have been unable to create a reliable repeatable example of this, and it sometimes crashes even when I do manually save first (as in #96877). So please ensure that any indication that a save is required is really really clear. I don't really understand the reason for the change to Save (rather than Save As) , but I'm sure it makes sense to the design team. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #20 from John --- Just installed 5.1.0.3 (x86 on Win10 x64 Enterprise fully updated) and noted the annoying change in the save button function. The discussion here suggests that it will now show a "hint" of the save status of the document; so it does but the faint blue star is a poor replacement of the very clear status indicator which existed before. Could this be made rather more obvious? If there really must be this "always save" function here, might I suggest making the default icon (for a saved or unaltered document) grey and that the icon changes to the standard one if the document has changed? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 --- Comment #19 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk --- (In reply to Jan Holesovsky from comment #18) > I've changed the Summary of the bug; this way we can mark it as FIXED :-) > > Maxim did all the hard work here - thanks for that! RC3 will have the > indication of the status. It won't be 'greying out' though (as save will be > available all the time), only a visual hint. :-) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96590] UI: save icon does not give a hint of the document status
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96590 Jan Holesovsky changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|WONTFIX |FIXED Summary|UI: after saving file, save |UI: save icon does not give |icon is not greyed out |a hint of the document ||status --- Comment #18 from Jan Holesovsky --- I've changed the Summary of the bug; this way we can mark it as FIXED :-) Maxim did all the hard work here - thanks for that! RC3 will have the indication of the status. It won't be 'greying out' though (as save will be available all the time), only a visual hint. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug. ___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list Libreoffice-bugs@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
