[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML" creates .odt with .docx extension

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML" creates .odt with .docx extension

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Roman Kuznetsov <79045_79...@mail.ru> changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Blocks||112724, 108444


Referenced Bugs:

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108444
[Bug 108444] [META] Database report bugs and enhancements
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112724
[Bug 112724] [META] Options dialog's Load/Save settings bugs and enhancements
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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML " creates .odt with .docx extension

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML" creates .odt with .docx extension

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--- Comment #8 from Sparrowbe  ---
Terrence, thank you for your comment on the topic.

My use case is to have kind of logbook of events, with possibility to add new
entries either manually (with a nice Form) or by copy-paste from external
spreadsheet. Then I have to print the subset of records in a form of a booklet.
There is no need to edit the report before printing, so pdf suits my needs as
well. However I miss a possibility to export only a slice of a table instead of
the whole content (but let's leave this aside).

Regarding the Writer's performance, I created new Bug 96720 as I've
investigated the problem more and found some other inconsistency in the content
of the Base-generated .odt that may possibly lead to already mentioned freezes
- the same file saved directly from the Writer is handled flawlessly.

Kind Regards,
Tom

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML" creates .odt with .docx extension

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--- Comment #5 from Alex Thurgood  ---
(In reply to Lionel Elie Mamane from comment #4)

> Just to be clear, if one does "file / save as" from the generated report,
> and saves *there* as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML", then it is correctly
> saved as .docx, right?

Yes, I tried this yesterday and could open a normal report (i.e. containing
tabular formatted report data) in Word 15.17.1 on OSX.


> 
> I don't understand this "Tools/Options: Load/Save -> General / Always save
> as"... "Clearly" only Writer obeys that... I can't imagine Calc or Impress
> following that setting. But nothing in the setting says it is for Writer
> only. IMHO, that's a UI problem.


Some large business deployments, e.g. corporations and administrations use this
option as a default to "trick" users into thinking that they're working with a
MS-Word clone, or because they have a policy of always saving to docx, but as
far as I understood, yes, this only applies to word processing documents.

And personally I agree, it is more of a UI problem, but perhaps there is more
to it than I know about. Maybe one of the devs more aware of what this option
does can shed light on it.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML" creates .odt with .docx extension

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--- Comment #6 from Sparrowbe  ---
It looks like I found quite nice inconsistency :)

And yes, I got confused by the "Load/Save" section because there are separate
sections like "LibreOffice Writer" or "LibreOffice Base" available only in
Options menu opened from corresponding program. So the first guess is that
those parameters are common for the whole suite (and they are - to some
extent).

The only reason for changing that "Always save as" field, is dealing with huge
report (>10 fields per record, one record per A5 page, about 2000 records) that
freezes Writer for minutes (or even hours on some machines) when loading the
document. The only option discovered so far is to save it as .doc(x) as MS Word
deals with such big table with no delay. So I still consider reporting at least
an enhancement against Writer's performance for this issue.

I understand your doubts about possible complaints related to compatibility,
but I also have hard task to explain the final user of my database why she has
to drink at least 3 coffees or teas before the generated report may be
eventually printed.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML" creates .odt with .docx extension

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--- Comment #7 from Terrence Enger  ---
(In reply to Sparrowbe from comment #6)
> dealing with
> huge report (>10 fields per record, one record per A5 page, about 2000
> records) that freezes Writer for minutes (or even hours on some machines)
> when loading the document.

Wow!  It had never occurred to me that one would use LibreOffice to
process a file of that size.  Clearly, we do not handle this well.  I
wonder if *should* handle it.

Let me confess that I am an old-fashioned (and old) guy, accustomed to
creating reports by a loop: { read one record, print one record }.
This new-fangled PC with its concept of loading a whole file at once
leaves me befuddled .

So I ask ... 
(*) Looking for solutions within whole-file-at-once paradigm: Can we
make LO work with a document this size?  Is it a reasonable amount
of work?  Is there much demand?
(*) Is there anything in a report definition that would make it hard
to process it in one or more sequential passes over the input,
producing for example .pdf output?  Sparrowbe, would this meet
your needs?

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML" creates .odt with .docx extension

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--- Comment #4 from Lionel Elie Mamane  ---
Just to be clear, if one does "file / save as" from the generated report, and
saves *there* as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML", then it is correctly saved as
.docx, right?

I don't understand this "Tools/Options: Load/Save -> General / Always save
as"... "Clearly" only Writer obeys that... I can't imagine Calc or Impress
following that setting. But nothing in the setting says it is for Writer only.
IMHO, that's a UI problem.

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[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 96616] FILESAVE: Generating a report as "Microsoft Word 2007-2013 XML" creates .odt with .docx extension

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Alex Thurgood  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

Summary|FILESAVE: Generatin a   |FILESAVE: Generating a
   |report as "Microsoft Word   |report as "Microsoft Word
   |2007-2013 XML" creates .odt |2007-2013 XML" creates .odt
   |with .docx extension|with .docx extension

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