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--- Comment #23 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
I have now tested in 5.2.0.0 beta which wouldn't install (a deb conflict), and
then when the installation problem was resolved it crashed and misbehaved in
other ways.  So I waited for 5.2.0.1.

The problem has definitely been resolved in Version: 5.2.0.1
Build ID: fcbcb4963bda8633ba72bd2108ca1e802aad557d
CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Linux 4.4; UI Render: default; 
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8)

I'll close this.  OK?

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--- Comment #22 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
I wish I could try 5.2, but the fates are against me.  

The official Libreoffice collection of debs (i.e. not an ubuntu ppa) doesn't
install properly on ubuntu 16.04 - there's some conflict in the installation
that causes it to fail.  

There is a test 'snap' version which looks very interesting for the future, but
it also has problems at present with some file accesses.

I guess I will have to wait for an ubuntu ppa version.

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--- Comment #21 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
(In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #20)
> Tim: of course anybody can make a mistake but you can easily trust Caolán,
> he's a great core dev. (just give a look to
> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?qt=author=mcnamara if
> you want to have an idea).
> You may also wait for final release of 5.1.4 and just use it to see.
It's me I don't trust, not anyone else!  I wouldn't dream of suggesting someone
else was wrong in this type of thing.  

No one else has ever claimed to have seen the problem. that's all, and I
thought confirmation would be the cautious way forward.  So I simply meant that
only I seemed to have had this problem and seen it had seemed to have gone
away, even though not by any deliberate fix.

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--- Comment #20 from Julien Nabet  ---
Tim: of course anybody can make a mistake but you can easily trust Caolán, he's
a great core dev. (just give a look to
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?qt=author=mcnamara if you
want to have an idea).
You may also wait for final release of 5.1.4 and just use it to see.

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--- Comment #19 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
I'll happily mark the Closed if someone else can confirm it was a problem prior
to 5.1.4 and is now fixed there.

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 Status|NEW |RESOLVED
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--- Comment #18 from Caolán McNamara  ---
The original reporter reports that the problem is fixed in 5.1.4

Juliens's master bt is the same bt as
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100140#c1
which is a 5-2/master only new problem.

So I'll mark this as fixed as the original problem is apparently gone. While
there is a new known problem in 5-2/master

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--- Comment #17 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
I have now tried 5.1.4 RC 1 (64 bit) on Windows 10, and it doesn't crash for me
there (or on ubuntu 16.04 as previously mentioned).

If the very latest 'Masters' version still crashes (I can't easily test that)
then something got better and then reverted.

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--- Comment #16 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
(In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #14)
> (In reply to tim from comment #13)
> > I thought I should try a test under windows.
> > 
> > In Windows 10, LO 5.1.2.2, it crashes exactly as I described, every time.
> > 
> > I downloaded 5.1.4.1 to try that but unfortunately it doesn't run on my
> > Windows 10 system.  It complains that Java isn't installed, but it is, and
> > is OK with IE.  So thus far I can't prove the problem is universally fixed.
> 
> 2 things to check:
> 1) if you install LO 64 bits, you must have Java 64 bits
> (if it's LO 32 bits, you must have Java 32 bits)
> 2) rename your LO directory profile (see
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile#Windows)
Ooops - that fixed it.  Thanks.  I guess I had the 32 bit LO installed
previously without realising it.

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--- Comment #15 from Julien Nabet  ---
Created attachment 125481
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bt with symbols

On pc Debian x86-64 with master sources updated today + following
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96877#c7, I could reproduce
a crash.

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--- Comment #14 from Julien Nabet  ---
(In reply to tim from comment #13)
> I thought I should try a test under windows.
> 
> In Windows 10, LO 5.1.2.2, it crashes exactly as I described, every time.
> 
> I downloaded 5.1.4.1 to try that but unfortunately it doesn't run on my
> Windows 10 system.  It complains that Java isn't installed, but it is, and
> is OK with IE.  So thus far I can't prove the problem is universally fixed.

2 things to check:
1) if you install LO 64 bits, you must have Java 64 bits
(if it's LO 32 bits, you must have Java 32 bits)
2) rename your LO directory profile (see
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile#Windows)

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--- Comment #13 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
I thought I should try a test under windows.

In Windows 10, LO 5.1.2.2, it crashes exactly as I described, every time.

I downloaded 5.1.4.1 to try that but unfortunately it doesn't run on my Windows
10 system.  It complains that Java isn't installed, but it is, and is OK with
IE.  So thus far I can't prove the problem is universally fixed.

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--- Comment #12 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
Having done all this I retested in 5.1.4 rc1 today (the ubuntu pre-release),
and it didn't crash.

So I guess it has been fixed!  Alex - could you double check 5.1.3.2 did crash
as I said? 

I'll leave this for a few days before closing it.

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--- Comment #11 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #8)
> No repro for me with your test odb on 
> 
> Version: 5.1.3.2
> Build ID: 644e4637d1d8544fd9f56425bd6cec110e49301b
> CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Mac OS X 10.11.5; UI Render: default; 
> Locale: fr-FR (fr.UTF-8)
> 
> Loaded the ODB, entered form edit mode for the only form in the file,
> redimensioned the filter button, saved the change, then closed the form,
> went to Tools Macros Organize Basic etc, then opened various macro modules
> of the file in the Basic IDE - no crash.
To get 5.1.3.2 to crash I did:
- enter form edit mode for the only form in the file,
- redimension the filter button (do not save or close now)
- go to Tools Macros Organize Basic etc, then open a macro modules of the file
in the Basic IDE and leave open
- without minimising any windows, close the form using the window x button and
when asked to save, say yes
- without doing anything else, close the main database window using the window
x button and when asked to save, say yes

If the sequence is changed it doesn't always crash

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--- Comment #10 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
(In reply to Alex Thurgood from comment #9)
> @Tim : could this be yet another Ubuntu-LO-instability problem ?
It seems not - it sill crashes every time using the precise sequence I
mentioned earlier, and I sometimes get an ubuntu crash report.  I'm now on
ubuntu 16.04, LO 1.5.1.3-0ubuntu1

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--- Comment #9 from Alex Thurgood  ---
@Tim : could this be yet another Ubuntu-LO-instability problem ?

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--- Comment #8 from Alex Thurgood  ---
No repro for me with your test odb on 

Version: 5.1.3.2
Build ID: 644e4637d1d8544fd9f56425bd6cec110e49301b
CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Mac OS X 10.11.5; UI Render: default; 
Locale: fr-FR (fr.UTF-8)

Loaded the ODB, entered form edit mode for the only form in the file,
redimensioned the filter button, saved the change, then closed the form, went
to Tools Macros Organize Basic etc, then opened various macro modules of the
file in the Basic IDE - no crash.

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--- Comment #7 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
Created attachment 122180
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Test Database form

I can now regularly reproduce one case where Base crashes. Tested on:

Version: 5.1.0.2
Build ID: 1:5.1.0~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty0
CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Linux 4.2; UI Render: default; 
Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8)




Open emptylms.odb
Go to Forms
Edit AlbumArtists form
Change the shape of a push button

The, open Tools, Macros, Organise Macros, Libreoffice Basic..
Select emptylms.odb, standard, select any macro module and Edit

Close the AlbumArtists form with the x in the corner, and Save
Close the odb with the x in the corner, and Save

Base crashes and sometimes offers to restart now, sometimes not.

This seems a relatively mild case of a crash, but during rapid development I
can get dozens such each day, by no means all done this way - I haven't yet
managed to reproduce others, but there are several that seem to occur when
closing forms (not necessarily the whole odb).  Sometimes it says there is a
frame error on restart.

This isn't a working odb, since the tables were imported from the true
application using odbc and didn't import properly.  That doesn't affect the
crashes.

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--- Comment #6 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
I'll ask on the user forum.

I was hoping that maybe people in the development team might have some views on
this, assuming they have some test systems on which they test user development
tools.

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--- Comment #5 from Cor Nouws  ---
(In reply to tim from comment #4)

> Sorry, silly of me to ask.

No problem ;) 

> I'll try it.  I'm near the end of my development process now so expect fewer
> crashes anyway.
> 
> I'd still be interested to know if my experience of frequent crashes when
> designing forms, macros etc is common or not.

I've no idea. You could ask on user list or forum. But hard to tell if that
will give a representative response.

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--- Comment #2 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #1)
> Hi Tim,
> 
> Did you try a new user profile?
> 
> Ciao - Cor
No, I haven't.  Is that likely to help?

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--- Comment #3 from Cor Nouws  ---
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> No, I haven't.  Is that likely to help?

Sure - that's obviously the reason why I ask this :)
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile

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--- Comment #4 from t...@tim-passingham.co.uk ---
(In reply to Cor Nouws from comment #3)
> (In reply to tim from comment #2)
> 
> > No, I haven't.  Is that likely to help?
> 
> Sure - that's obviously the reason why I ask this :)
>   https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile
Sorry, silly of me to ask.

I'll try it.  I'm near the end of my development process now so expect fewer
crashes anyway.

I'd still be interested to know if my experience of frequent crashes when
designing forms, macros etc is common or not.

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--- Comment #1 from Cor Nouws  ---
Hi Tim,

Did you try a new user profile?

Ciao - Cor

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