Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What are the requirements to set a bug to NEW

2013-02-10 Thread Joren

Hi Robert,

Op 10-02-13 12:07, Robert Großkopf schreef:

Hi *,

I 'm just looking for some bugs in Base. There I found bugs declared as
NEW, where nobody else but the report had made a comment and nothing
is to see in the history about anybody, who has switched the report to
NEW.
This bug I have set to Needinfo. Was set to New. Could only be set
to New by the reporter.
Indeed, following the 'history' 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_activity.cgi?id=60217 it's set to NEW 
when it was submitted.

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=60217
I thought there must be someone, who could confirm the bug - not only
the reporter. Or could we confirm our bug by ourselves?
Also correct; It's not the right workflow to 'confirm' your own bugs. 
Only (core) developers (or very experienced QA members) can set a bug to 
NEW without confirmation. Unless they are looking for a 'second 
opinion'/independent confirmation.


You did good to set the bug status to NEEDINFO because there is not 
enough info to confirm this bug. The problem with this kind of bugs is 
that: when someone set the bug status to NEW or RESOLVED WORKSFORME, we 
can't set it back to UNCONFIRMED (because the system mark it intern as 
'ever reproduced = 1').


I also see that this bug is reported directly to FDO. With our BSA, 
where most people and end users report a bug, isn't this easy/possible 
anymore to set your bug while submitting to NEW (unless they browse 
afterwards to their own bug, log in to FDO and set it as NEW).


Thanks for this cache, and you did great and correct :-).

Kind regards,
Joren
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] What are the requirements to set a bug to NEW

2013-02-10 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Robert Großkopf schrieb:

Hi Robert,

the general condition for NEW is that information the Bug report is 
complete and reliable so that a developer can start with hacking without 
need to do additional basic research. The most important info is short, 
but clear instruction how to reproduce the problem

We have some brief hints here
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugTriage#Set_Status_.26_Prioritize 
what should get some more detailed completion on QA-FAQ with some kind 
of check list, I will start a draft next days.


So I completely agree with your concerns and Joren's notes concerning 
Bug 60217: we need more info there.


Although we have some tendency to to lower the bar for NEW because there 
is some danger that a Bug too often becomes visited without possibility 
to add more info (where a developer might be able to find out the 
missing info very quickly), a clear instruction is mandatory.


Best regards

Rainer
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[Libreoffice-qa] Bugs and Fixed Resolved Closed status

2013-02-10 Thread Marc Paré
I am just going through some bug fixing and stuff, and, I was wondering 
if this were possible.


Some of the bugs are being redirected to the lists. This is really 
helpful and, in my experience it works at mobilizing the teams to work 
on them.


I was wondering, would it be possible to make it so that when a bug has 
reached the status of Fixed and/or Resolves and/or Closed, would 
it be possible for this to trigger Bugzilla to email back to the list of 
its ClosedFixedResolved etc. status? It would be neat if the teams 
had a report for when the bug was no longer in need of attention.


Cheers,

Marc

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugs and Fixed Resolved Closed status

2013-02-10 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Marc Paré schrieb:


I was wondering, would it be possible to make it so that when a bug has
reached the status of Fixed and/or Resolves and/or Closed,


Hi Marc,

I think the way how that can be done most easily is that someone who 
maintains the bugs.freedesktop.org account for the mailing list adapts 
the mail preferences (checks 'Get mail when The bug is resolved or 
reopened'.


For needs what can not be fulfilled by list owners please simply submit 
a LibO-WWW-Bugzilla bug with Importance enhancement.


Best regards

Rainer
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