[Libreoffice-qa] After EOL has been reached...
Per discussion at the meeting today, we generally agreed to the following: AGREED: For users inquiring about tech support after the EOL date of a release, we politely indicate that the release is EOL and ask them to upgrade to a new version (or go talk to their vendor/distro/paid tech support) AGREED: We de-list versions in Bugzilla 6 months after the release has been EOLed Petr, Rainer (and others) -- What do you think about these timeframes? Thanks, --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Addressing regressions within a release
As brought-up by Bjoern during the meeting, it's good for us if we can identify how many regressions have been introduced during the course of a (minor) release series of LibreOffice. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/May_3#PENDING_ITEM:_Regressions_within_a_release One good way to tackle this problem would be to bibisect any bug marked as a regression and try to date it to before the X.X.0 point release. Joel - How much work would it be to bibisect the regressions for each release? Aside from initial triage/repro, what other QA tasks should take priority over this work? --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Conference Call 2013-04-19 - Agenda & Minutes
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: > > Concerning this item > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/April_19#PENDING_ITEM:_Documentation_for_Localized_French_BSA > > please consider that we (FR group) are acting as a community and not as > individuals, so instead of adding Charles (who is already overwhelmed > with his TDF activities and not interested in FR QA) add the FR QA list > as a primary contact. You can write in English there and anybody in the > team will react with the emergency your team needs. Would it be possible for a couple of the FR QA Team members to come say hi on IRC or the mailing list? I believe that running an NLP BSA will take some dedication and consistency over time, and I think it could help for us to have a bit more of a repor in place between our teams. > Concerning this process > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BSA/Localization > it seems a bit bureaucratic to me. Our team is dealing with bugs > reported from our users list, forums or even directly by organization > like MIMO for years now. Cool! Is your process documented somewhere on the wiki? It would be good to know how different NLP teams are addressing QA locally so that perhaps we can coordinate our efforts and standardize our structures as appropriate. > We won't report each submissions as soon as > it's reported via BSA if we consider it's not a bug or if it's a > duplicate or if we don't have enough information. Ah, interesting. Do you guys keep track of these submissions using separate software, or just via threads on the mailing list? Regarding duplicates, I think that it can be helpful to have that information shared in the bug tracker, at least for helping us keep track of bug frequency...but Joel, Rainer, and other more experienced FDO wranglers may have a different opinion on the usefulness of such information :-) > May be before writing such a page we should wait to have the process in > place already for one team, then see what are the usage/culture of the > new team coming to participate and write a general policy from there. I don't think that any of these things are set in stone -- we're all very open to changing the ideas and policies as we see how things turn out in practice. My impetus for creating some docs about management of the BSAs was to try to reduce the workload on the QA Team and avoid an issue where we might be stuck with an active NLP BSA and nobody on the NLP team willing to take care of it. In any case, a number of us are excited to get the FR BSA up and running as soon as possible. It would be great if you could 1) Document on the wiki how the FR QA Team a) deals with bug submissions right now b) would like to deal with BSA submissions 2) Let us know what we can do to get the FR BSA running Thanks, --R ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Purposes for the Integer field types in LibO 4.0.2
Hello Robert, Thanks for the quick reply. You were right: I had a MySQL database when opened a table in Design View to see what the Field Types were in LO 4.0.2.2. I found MEDIUMINT when I searched my user guide for MySQL. It listed the lengths for these field types in terms of Bytes instead of bits. (I understand the meaning of both.) Once I saw what you had written, I understood how each of these lengths were written: 1 bit for the + or -, and the rest of the bits contain the number. I also have a copy of the HSQLDB 1.8 user guide on my hard drive and have seen this table there also. --Dan On 04/19/2013 02:37 PM, Robert Großkopf wrote: Hello Dan, the list you created I couldn't read so well, so I add a new list: The data-types of the HSQLDB are defined in the description of the HSQLDB. You can find the description here: http://www.hsqldb.org/doc/1.8/guide/ [TINYINT] -128 to 127 2⁸ (8 Bit) (-7 Bit to +7 Bit-1) [SMALLINT] -32,768 to 32,767 2¹⁶ (16 Bit) (-15 Bit to +15 Bit-1) [INTEGER][INT] -2,147,483,648 to 2,147,483,647 2³² (32 Bit) (-31 Bit to +31 Bit-1) [BIGINT] -9,223,372,036,854,775,808 to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 2⁶⁴ (64 Bit) (-63 Bit to +63 Bit-1) Hope this will be readable. All types have the same range as the Java-types. I have some questions about them. 1) What is the difference between [INT] and [INTEGER]? No difference, see the HSQLDB-description 2) Do they have the same range? See 1) 3) What purpose does each of these field types serve? With every type is described, how much memory is needed for it. 4) Is there a link that describes the information for all of the field types used by the Table Design dialog? The shown field-types are different when you use different databases. For the fields-types of the HSQLDB you have to look in the description of the HSQLDB 5) What is the range for [MEDIUMINT]? This isn't shown in the GUI, when you open a HSQLDB. I have just opend LO 4.0.3.1 for have a look. Tis type isn't a type of the HSQLDB. Could be you have found this type, when connecting to a MySQL-database. The range of this type is 2²⁴ (24 Bit) The unsigned versions of the datatype you could not chose with the HSQLDB. The Java-Integer-Datatypes are all signed. Regards, Robert ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/ ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Purposes for the Integer field types in LibO 4.0.2
Hello Dan, the list you created I couldn't read so well, so I add a new list: The data-types of the HSQLDB are defined in the description of the HSQLDB. You can find the description here: http://www.hsqldb.org/doc/1.8/guide/ > [TINYINT] > -128 to 127 2⁸ (8 Bit) (-7 Bit to +7 Bit-1) > [SMALLINT] > -32,768 to 32,767 2¹⁶ (16 Bit) (-15 Bit to +15 Bit-1) > [INTEGER][INT] > -2,147,483,648 to 2,147,483,647 2³² (32 Bit) (-31 Bit to +31 Bit-1) > [BIGINT] > -9,223,372,036,854,775,808 to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 2⁶⁴ (64 Bit) (-63 Bit to +63 Bit-1) Hope this will be readable. All types have the same range as the Java-types. > > I have some questions about them. > 1) What is the difference between [INT] and [INTEGER]? No difference, see the HSQLDB-description > 2) Do they have the same range? See 1) > 3) What purpose does each of these field types serve? With every type is described, how much memory is needed for it. > 4) Is there a link that describes the information for all of the field > types used by the Table Design dialog? The shown field-types are different when you use different databases. For the fields-types of the HSQLDB you have to look in the description of the HSQLDB > 5) What is the range for [MEDIUMINT]? This isn't shown in the GUI, when you open a HSQLDB. I have just opend LO 4.0.3.1 for have a look. Tis type isn't a type of the HSQLDB. Could be you have found this type, when connecting to a MySQL-database. The range of this type is 2²⁴ (24 Bit) The unsigned versions of the datatype you could not chose with the HSQLDB. The Java-Integer-Datatypes are all signed. Regards, Robert ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] mailing list administration - SPAM Sender Filters
Hi all, today I replaced lots of single E-Mail addresses in the sender blacklist by smart ReExp filters, what should find also similar addresses. I hope that will reduce amount of SPAM here, I will continue that rework soon. Best regards Rainer ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Conference Call 2013-04-19 - Agenda & Minutes
Hi all, On 19/04/2013 18:37, Joel Madero wrote: > Thanks to Robinson we have a great new system for our agenda and minutes, > minutes from today's meeting can be found here: > > > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/April_19 Concerning this item https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/April_19#PENDING_ITEM:_Documentation_for_Localized_French_BSA please consider that we (FR group) are acting as a community and not as individuals, so instead of adding Charles (who is already overwhelmed with his TDF activities and not interested in FR QA) add the FR QA list as a primary contact. You can write in English there and anybody in the team will react with the emergency your team needs. Concerning this process https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BSA/Localization it seems a bit bureaucratic to me. Our team is dealing with bugs reported from our users list, forums or even directly by organization like MIMO for years now. We won't report each submissions as soon as it's reported via BSA if we consider it's not a bug or if it's a duplicate or if we don't have enough information. May be before writing such a page we should wait to have the process in place already for one team, then see what are the usage/culture of the new team coming to participate and write a general policy from there. Kind regards Sophie ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] Purposes for the Integer field types in LibO 4.0.2
Below is a table of Field Types for Integers, their lengths and ranges as listed in the LibreOffice 4.0.2.2 Base Table Design dialog. /*Field Type name*/ /*Field Type*/ /*Length*/ /*Range*/ Tiny Integer [TINYINT] 3 -128 to 127 (signed) 0 to 255 Small Integer [SMALLINT] 5 -32,768 to 32,767 Integer [MEDIUMINT] 7 Integer [INTEGER] 10 -2,147,483,648 to 2,147,483,647 Integer [INT] 10 BigInt [BIGINT] 19 -9,223,372,036,854,775,808 to 9,223,372,036,854,775,807 I have some questions about them. 1) What is the difference between [INT] and [INTEGER]? 2) Do they have the same range? 3) What purpose does each of these field types serve? 4) Is there a link that describes the information for all of the field types used by the Table Design dialog? 5) What is the range for [MEDIUMINT]? --Dan ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
[Libreoffice-qa] [LibreOffice-QA] Conference Call 2013-04-19 - Agenda & Minutes
Thanks to Robinson we have a great new system for our agenda and minutes, minutes from today's meeting can be found here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/April_19 Best, Joel -- *Joel Madero* LibreOffice QA Volunteer jmadero@gmail.com ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...
Hello *, > > 2) ListBox has the wrong notion of "current value". Change it to > the right one incompatibly? Add a new "current *bound* value" > notion to stay compatible, but make the interesting thing > accessible in some way? > + has two lists of key/values pairs. > + with a one-to-one mapping between the two, > + values that are displayed; and another that is written. > + getCurrentValue - shouldn't return string displayed, > but the value > + on a date-field; don't get Mon/1st/Jan - but an abstract date. > + not so clear as all that (Norbert/Eike) > + value written to field, not exposed at all (Lionel) > + API is a special exception for this box > + been there for a while. > + keeping back-compat there is important (Eike) > + introduce a new method - getActualCurrentValue > + or incompatibly extend the existing interface > + can we put it in a property instead ? Good idea. I have searched a long time for solving this problem. Only possibility now is to show a unique key-field as a part of the "current value", start a query and have a look for the foreign-key, which is bounded to the table/query of the form. To keep it back-compat, this "bounded" value should better be reached by "current bound value". Regards Robert ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
