[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-05-09 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present
+ Norbert, Andras, Joel, Kohei, Michael M, Petr, David,
  Tibby, Markus, Caolan, Kendy, Lionel, Tsahi

* Completed Action Items
+ add a suggestion to do a single bug triage
  to the GSOC requirements (Fridrich)
+ status of Mac / coretext in 4.1 (Tor, Abdulmajid)
[ more fixing required for Arabic & font-fallback
  also some pixel jitter while typing ]

* Pending Action Items
+ look into Windows gallery builds (Michael)
[ work in progress, thanks to David for help ]
+ look at gradient / clipart issues (Michael)
+ double check Lionel's list-box / API change (Eike)
+ need design for copying styles between templates (Astron/UX)
+ either in that dialog or a new dialog
+ also issue with only editing templates that are in the mgr
+ feedback on stepped-lines dialog (Astron)
+ buy Windows build hardware / hosting (Norbert)
+ [ ongoing expense management issues ]
+ find a good public? test / webdav server for QA (Thorsten)
+ kill calc / inherited number formatting for 4.1 (Markus)
+ connect Joel with Andreas to get contact details for ext'n devs 
(Thorsten)
+ revive writer default templates discussion - pwrt. incremental change 
(Ahmad)

* Release Engineering update (Petr)
+ 3.6.7 schedule - deadline: June 24th for rc1
+ 4.0.3 rc3 - released today ...
+ thanks to mst for the case sensitivity fix.
+ 4.0.4 rc1 - May 27th - ~two weeks out.
AI: + switch on-line update on (Kendy)

+ 4.1 - feature-freeze: ~one week out: May 20th

+ 4.1 Alpha 1 status
+ build failed a bit, working on Windows
+ Linux build should be fine
+ Mac builds fine, but fails on startup in some UNO type bits
AI: + take a look at it (Stephan / David)
+ missing rc / rdb files or somesuch ?

+ 4.1 pending / watch features / issues
+ wiki page needs updating with features:
+ http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.1
+ gallery building (Michael)
+ uno type database re-work (Stephan)

* Linux / Samba issue - missing gnome-vfs
+ turned off in configure by default to help building
+ gio not working there ...
+ could be that file-picker and .desktop has a URL flag
AI: + look into URI mangling / path issues (Michael)
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64311


* QA update (Joel)
+ manpower reduced
+ Joel translating the yearly report
+ some students doing finals
+ 3100+ bugs triaged in last ~100 days
+ http://joelmadero.wordpress.com/
+ under a very specific circumstance corrupting docx on export
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64232
+ Features that never have worked
+ if we find these, but they've never worked, what to do ?
+ should we disable these until they are fixed ?
+ or get regression priority ?
+ tag as 'regression' even if vs. OO.o
+ option to make experimental feature (cf. macros)
+ bring up individually at the ESC.
+ Warnings During upgrade about Extensions ? (Robinson)
+ impossible to know what APIs are used by an extension
=> can't do a really good job at this - of detecting
   issues.
+ really need to phone home during upgrade to determine
  author annotated compatibility - needs coding & a volunteer
+ in the meantime hope that during 4.x extension migration is
  much smoother (Markus)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+ rather more bugs opened than closed
+155 -112
+ what do with many-comment many-cc bugs that are growing ...

* UX input (Astron)
+ not much to report.

* UI / dialog re-work (Caolan)
+ 211 dialogs done (of 500?)
+ 
http://blogs.linux.ie/caolan/2013/05/01/converting-libreoffice-dialogs-to-ui-format-200-conversions-milestone/
+ perhaps 1/3 of the way through in terms of work
+ introduced a MessageBox dialog
+ honours the desktop theme for button-ordering
+ should disable native button ordering until we can
  do it in every dialog (Astron)
AI: + mail the ux-advise list + Caolan with feedback (Astron)

* gerrit mails decision (Kendy)
+ postpone discussion pending Bjoern's presence

* GSOC update (Markus)
+ both Cedric & Fridrich missing in action.
+ we have 13 slots as of now, and some excel

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Web Wizard ported to python

2013-05-09 Thread Javier Fernandez
Hi Pedro,

On 09/05/13 12:04, Pedro wrote:

> Do you know if the patch is included in the recently released Alpha1
> (probably not since it was pushed to master yesterday)?
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38820

I guess it's not integrated yet.

> 
> Can you provide a link to the patch in gerrit (e.g.
> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/3280/)?
> 
> 

Well, I've been working on the "feature/pyweb-wizard" remote branch, and
we pushed the changes directly to master. That branch has not all the
commits, since some additional changes were required after pushing the
branch to master.

I can provide a single and clean patch with all the changes, if
required, including the removal of the java files. I think the java
version should stay in the master branch for the time being, while the
QA tests verify that all the functionality has been ported correctly.

Regards,

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-4.1.0.0.alpha1 tag created

2013-05-09 Thread Dan Lewis

On 05/08/2013 06:19 PM, Pedro wrote:

Hi all

1)

Under Options, LibreOffice, Personalization there is a new setting:
Background Image

To which Background does this image apply?

I assumed it would be the application background (when a document is not
loaded)...

If it is, then it doesn't work under Windows
 Personalization refers to personas that firefox introduced. The 
LibreOffice user mailing list contains a somewhat lengthly discussion 
about personans some time back. You might want to search the archives.


--Dan



2)

The About dialog is wrong again in Alpha 1... it seems to be correct every
other day...
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58034

It should be something like

Version: 4.1.0.0.alpha1
Build ID: 67ce08e2c64a6615abc90d3a3c442f90d86fa69
TinderBox: Win-x86@6, Branch:master, Time: 2013-05-03_06:12:36

not

Version: 4.1.0.0.alpha1
Build ID: 67ce08e2c64a6615abc90d3a3c442f90d86fa69



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-4.1.0.0.alpha1 tag created

2013-05-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Pedro  wrote:
> Norbert Thiebaud wrote
>> The former is what I expect from a daily-build out of a given buildbot
>> - since there can be multiple source for them for a given platform
>>
>> The later is what I expect out of 'release build' (alpha, beta, RC or
>> GA) - since there is only 1 source for release build.
>
> Agreed on the source. But keeping the Branch and pull Time still makes
> sense.
not for official build. the branch would be redundant (it is, expect
maybe for the first alpha, libreoffice-X.Y(.Z))
and the pull time is irrelevant since all these build are done based
on a tag. so they are all from the same point which can be easily
determined in git.
otoh the _absence_ of that line is a quick way to distinguish between
daily build and 'official' build.

> This is NOT a release build (at least under Windows): it installs to a
> different path, creates a separate Profile folder and creates a separate
> Program group. It follows the rules for a Dev build. Only RC builds have the
> same behavior as the final release.

By release build I mean 'build done by the person in charge of release
build for that platform, with the 'standard' build config)
iow official build... by opposition to builbot daily build that are
done by whom-ever want to maintain a builbot and upload daily build...
the later also has a non-fix configuration, whereas official builds
have a consistent autogen configuration (and yes, on purpose alpha and
beta are not 'release-build' in the installation sens on windows...
but alph, beta, RC build are still 'release build' in the sens I
defined above)

Norbert
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-4.1.0.0.alpha1 tag created

2013-05-09 Thread Pedro
Norbert Thiebaud wrote
> The former is what I expect from a daily-build out of a given buildbot
> - since there can be multiple source for them for a given platform
> 
> The later is what I expect out of 'release build' (alpha, beta, RC or
> GA) - since there is only 1 source for release build.

Agreed on the source. But keeping the Branch and pull Time still makes
sense.
This is NOT a release build (at least under Windows): it installs to a
different path, creates a separate Profile folder and creates a separate
Program group. It follows the rules for a Dev build. Only RC builds have the
same behavior as the final release.

In any case the dialog in Alpha1 reflects a REGRESSION on the information in
the About box in the master branch (since April 22nd)
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58034



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] libreoffice-4.1.0.0.alpha1 tag created

2013-05-09 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Pedro  wrote:
> 2)
>
> The About dialog is wrong again in Alpha 1... it seems to be correct every
> other day...
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58034
>
> It should be something like
>
> Version: 4.1.0.0.alpha1
> Build ID: 67ce08e2c64a6615abc90d3a3c442f90d86fa69
> TinderBox: Win-x86@6, Branch:master, Time: 2013-05-03_06:12:36
>
> not
>
> Version: 4.1.0.0.alpha1
> Build ID: 67ce08e2c64a6615abc90d3a3c442f90d86fa69


The former is what I expect from a daily-build out of a given buildbot
- since there can be multiple source for them for a given platform

The later is what I expect out of 'release build' (alpha, beta, RC or
GA) - since there is only 1 source for release build.

Norbert
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Web Wizard ported to python

2013-05-09 Thread Pedro
Hi Javier


Javier Fernandez-2 wrote
> Excuse me if this is not the proper list to send this, but I've recently
> pushed a substantial amount of code to master, as result of the task to
> port the Web Wizard to python (bug 38820). I think the Agenda wizard has
> been recently integrated too, so I would kindly ask for some special
> attention to the Web and Agenda wizards functionality in the tests prior
> to the next release.

I believe this is the proper list indeed. I think what you just did is an
excellent way to improve quality in LO and also communication between devs
and QA. Congratulations and thanks!

Do you know if the patch is included in the recently released Alpha1
(probably not since it was pushed to master yesterday)?
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38820

Can you provide a link to the patch in gerrit (e.g.
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/3280/)?

Cheers,
Pedro



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[Libreoffice-qa] Web Wizard ported to python

2013-05-09 Thread Javier Fernandez
Hi,

Excuse me if this is not the proper list to send this, but I've recently
pushed a substantial amount of code to master, as result of the task to
port the Web Wizard to python (bug 38820). I think the Agenda wizard has
been recently integrated too, so I would kindly ask for some special
attention to the Web and Agenda wizards functionality in the tests prior
to the next release.

Thanks.
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