Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily bibisect

[Bjoern Michaelsen]

Hi Terrence,

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 06:54:11PM -0400, Terrence Enger wrote:
> Thank you Bjoern.  Everything you have suggested has worked as far as
> I can go with it now; actual execution will need a 64-bit system, of
> course.
> 
> Just a couple of things more, if I may, please.
> 
> (1) Should instructions for using the daily bibisect be added to "how
> to bibisect" ?
> 
> If I attempt this, would you be willing to review the work to keep
> me on the straight-and-narrow?

Absolutely, that would be awesome!


> (2) I suspect that `git checkout latest` as on that page is
> responsible for a lot of my difficulty.  At least after I checked
> out master, I magically started getting most of the results you
> said I should get.  Does this sound plausible?

Yes indeed, as the daily bibisect repo is updated daily it is missing the
'oldest' and 'latest' tags, which I usually manually created befoe uploading. 
We might changed that though.

@Jean-Baptiste: Can we maybe do a:

 git tag -f oldest 3e7462bd65e692bf0592d5b080b7716341b62a47 && git tag -f 
latest master

before pushing to the binrepo?

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily bibisect

[Terrence Enger]

Thank you Bjoern.  Everything you have suggested has worked as far as
I can go with it now; actual execution will need a 64-bit system, of
course.

Just a couple of things more, if I may, please.

(1) Should instructions for using the daily bibisect be added to "how
to bibisect" ?

If I attempt this, would you be willing to review the work to keep
me on the straight-and-narrow?

(2) I suspect that `git checkout latest` as on that page is
responsible for a lot of my difficulty.  At least after I checked
out master, I magically started getting most of the results you
said I should get.  Does this sound plausible?

Again, thank you for your help.

Terry.


On Tue, 2013-05-21 at 17:40 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> sorry for the late reply. I didnt find time to look into this earlier.
> 
> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:17:31AM -0400, Terrence Enger wrote:
> > I am for the first time trying to use a "daily" bibisect.  For the
> > terminally curious, this is in aid of fdo#64686 "Bug in Contour
> > Editor" .
> > To this end I downloaded and unpacked
> > http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/bibisect-4.0.tar.lzma
> > (created 2013-05-08) and in the resulting binrepo/ I did 
> > `git checkout latest`.  Questions and difficulties arising ...
> > 
> > (*) The tar file has a sibling bibisect-4.0.tar.lzma.zsync.  Am I
> > supposed to use this for something?
> 
> If you install zsync (with `apt-get install zsync`), you can do:
> 
> zsync  
> http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/bibisect-4.0.tar.lzma.zsync
> 
> which should do incremental updates.
> 
> > (*) binrepo/ lacks program soffice, and in particular it lacks
> > opt/program/soffice.  How am I supposed to run the program?
> > (There does exist opt/program/soffice.bin, but not ooenv which I
> > need to `source` first.)
> 
> Hmmm, with my copy doing a:
> 
>  git checkout master && git reset --hard HEAD
> 
> gives me a build of 5a8f5914c2077fe330d713a5d3a2be3b3f6a7e9a from 2013-05-07
> and the about box says so too.
> Checking out the oldest version with:
> 
>  git checkout 3e7462bd65e692bf0592d5b080b7716341b62a47 && git reset --hard 
> HEAD
> 
> gives me a build of 1eddfce9894fd05315173744f495619189093dc7 from 2013-02-05
> and the about box says so too.
> 
> > (*) `git log` shows 74 commits, the latest from February 2013.  I
> > expected to see later commits.
> 
> Strange:
> 
>  git log --pretty=oneline master|wc -l
>  263
> 
> looks fine here.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Bjoern


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] It is registration of the PNG data to a toolbar at calc.

[Terrence Enger]

Miday,

Thank you for the bug report.  I have set it to status NEW.

All,

The bug report is fdo#64717 "When registering the png file with alpha
information to the toolbar, it was discolored."

On our page Find the Expert page
, I do not see an
obvious candidate to pick on--whoops, I mean to ask for help.  The
problem as reported has to do with transparency in a .png file; my
explorations suggest that scaling that .png is also involved in
provoking the problem.  Any volunteers or suggestions?

BTW, I consider this on-topic for the dev list because the bug report
shows that Miday is already hacking on the code.

Terry.

On Sat, 2013-05-18 at 12:09 +0900, Miday wrote:
Hi,
> 
> I registered the bug.
> 
> When registering the png file with alpha information to the toolbar, it 
> was discolored.
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64717
> 
> LibreOffice 4.0.3/3.6.6/3.5.7calc/write
> ubuntu 12.04 32bit
> 
> Image data registered into the toolbar.
> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/soft/miday/Calc_Moji/pngdata.zip
> 
> Result(256tr.png)
> http://www.ne.jp/asahi/soft/miday/Calc_Moji/errorIcon.png
> 
> Please verify.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Christian Lohmaier]

On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Michael Meeks  wrote:
> [...]
> * Pending Action Items
> [...
]> + buy Windows build hardware / hosting (Norbert)
> + buy gamer boxes, and ship them to people's homes
> + alternatives too expensive / slow throughput

Just FYI amazon's EC2 as example:
M1-large instance can do a build (accellerated using ccache) in around
7 hours → too slow
M3-xlarge instance can do a build (accellerated usin ccache) in a
little less than two hours (that would be OK), but costs $0,780/hour
(or currently $0,1375/hour for spot-pricing → 100€/month if used 24/7)

ciao
Christian
http://aws.amazon.com/en/ec2/instance-types/
http://aws.amazon.com/en/ec2/pricing/
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Test the Photo Album Creator

[Sophie Gautier]

Hi Samuel,
On 16/05/2013 08:52, Samuel Mehrbrodt wrote:
> 
> Am 13.05.2013 20:29, schrieb Andras Timar:
>> I don't recall that Documentation folks have ever contributed anything
>> to help, but I may be wrong. AFAIK they work on User Guides.
> Maybe we should just ask them whether they can do it. Shouldn't be too
> hard, if you wan write a little bit.
>> I think that the Photo Album feature is pretty much self-explaining. A
>> trivial UI reference help, such as "Press the Create button to create
>> the Photo Album" or "You can choose one from the three pre-defined
>> layouts, 1 image per slide, 2 images per slide or 4 images per slide"
>> is not very useful. What help text did you think of? I can easily add
>> a help page, if I'm provided with the text.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andras
> Sure, it is self-explaining. But I still think a Help page would be
> helpful, at least it would help people who google for that feature to
> find it.
> Microsoft has a similiar page:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/create-and-share-a-photo-album-HA010338260.aspx
> 

Even if it's self explaining, please, write a little content for the
help files. Our users are not as experienced as we are with computers,
so even if it seems to be repeating, it's necessary.
Thanks
Kind regards
Sophie

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] daily bibisect

[Bjoern Michaelsen]

Hi,

sorry for the late reply. I didnt find time to look into this earlier.

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 10:17:31AM -0400, Terrence Enger wrote:
> I am for the first time trying to use a "daily" bibisect.  For the
> terminally curious, this is in aid of fdo#64686 "Bug in Contour
> Editor" .
> To this end I downloaded and unpacked
> http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/bibisect-4.0.tar.lzma
> (created 2013-05-08) and in the resulting binrepo/ I did 
> `git checkout latest`.  Questions and difficulties arising ...
> 
> (*) The tar file has a sibling bibisect-4.0.tar.lzma.zsync.  Am I
> supposed to use this for something?

If you install zsync (with `apt-get install zsync`), you can do:

zsync  
http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/libreoffice/binrepo/bibisect-4.0.tar.lzma.zsync

which should do incremental updates.

> (*) binrepo/ lacks program soffice, and in particular it lacks
> opt/program/soffice.  How am I supposed to run the program?
> (There does exist opt/program/soffice.bin, but not ooenv which I
> need to `source` first.)

Hmmm, with my copy doing a:

 git checkout master && git reset --hard HEAD

gives me a build of 5a8f5914c2077fe330d713a5d3a2be3b3f6a7e9a from 2013-05-07
and the about box says so too.
Checking out the oldest version with:

 git checkout 3e7462bd65e692bf0592d5b080b7716341b62a47 && git reset --hard HEAD

gives me a build of 1eddfce9894fd05315173744f495619189093dc7 from 2013-02-05
and the about box says so too.

> (*) `git log` shows 74 commits, the latest from February 2013.  I
> expected to see later commits.

Strange:

 git log --pretty=oneline master|wc -l
 263

looks fine here.

Best,

Bjoern
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Test the Photo Album Creator

[Kieran Peckett]

As far as the documentation team is concerned, the in-built help is
useless. It is believed to be quite out-of-date and difficult to
update. The docs team spend most of their time on the guides on
ODFAuthors these days.

On 16/05/2013, Samuel Mehrbrodt  wrote:
>
> Am 13.05.2013 20:29, schrieb Andras Timar:
>> I don't recall that Documentation folks have ever contributed anything
>> to help, but I may be wrong. AFAIK they work on User Guides.
> Maybe we should just ask them whether they can do it. Shouldn't be too
> hard, if you wan write a little bit.
>> I think that the Photo Album feature is pretty much self-explaining. A
>> trivial UI reference help, such as "Press the Create button to create
>> the Photo Album" or "You can choose one from the three pre-defined
>> layouts, 1 image per slide, 2 images per slide or 4 images per slide"
>> is not very useful. What help text did you think of? I can easily add
>> a help page, if I'm provided with the text.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Andras
> Sure, it is self-explaining. But I still think a Help page would be
> helpful, at least it would help people who google for that feature to
> find it.
> Microsoft has a similiar page:
> http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/powerpoint-help/create-and-share-a-photo-album-HA010338260.aspx
>
> Thanks
> Samuel
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[Libreoffice-qa] what to do with AOO - Sidebar - experimental feature in libreoffice-4-1 master and the 4.1.0 branch

[V Stuart Foote]

OK, so with a bit of git magic, looks like the Apache OpenOffice work on their 
Sidebar implementation of the Symphony contribution has been merged into 
LibreOffice master. And, unless I am really misreading the git logs, has been 
included in the libreoffice-4-1 branch (at commit 
a2c9d4f8bbde97f175bae4df771273a61251f402). 

So while it is too soon for the 4.1 tinderboxes to verify that myself, but 
looking at a master TB 6 build that predates the branch point by several hours:

tinderbox: buildname: Win-x86@6
tinderbox: tree: MASTER
tinderbox: pull time 2013-05-20 20:57:59
tinderbox: git sha1s
core:de00b8bb67b7453b45e081fe602782803eab1349

...the Apache OpenOffice Sidebar feature is present in the 4.1.0 branch as an 
experimental feature, i.e. accessible from Tools -> Options -> Advanced -> 
Optional (unstable) options -- "Enable experimental sidebar (on restart)"  
check-box.

Not wrong if it makes it into 4.1.0 branch I guess, but it presents some 
logistical issues from a QA perspective, and raises a question.  Does the ESC 
want QA to submit LibreOffice bugs against these experimental features, or 
should we continue to track and test implementation of Sidebar on the AOO side 
where active development resides with Andre, Oliver, and others. Following the 
primary AOO meta bug for Sidebar implementation is 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121420

I can verify the merged Sidebar already works in LibreOffice, and that it has 
the same UI issues as the AOO Dev builds (several already corrected), but 
beyond that how much of a role will LO Devs take on that I need to split any QA 
effort on?

Stuart
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Web Wizard ported to python

[Javier Fernandez]

Hi,

I'm not sure whether there is something required from my side to help on
the integration of the python Web Wizard in the new release. I did my
best to test all the functionalities but there is likely a substantial
amount of code that could have been not touched by my tests.

I'll be willing to help on anything you consider relevant to ease the
integration in the next release.

I could attach a patch or rebasing my working branch "feature/pyweb-wizard".


On 09/05/13 16:30, Javier Fernandez wrote:
> Hi Pedro,
> 
> On 09/05/13 12:04, Pedro wrote:
> 
>> Do you know if the patch is included in the recently released Alpha1
>> (probably not since it was pushed to master yesterday)?
>> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38820
> 
> I guess it's not integrated yet.
> 
>>
>> Can you provide a link to the patch in gerrit (e.g.
>> https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/3280/)?
>>
>>
> 
> Well, I've been working on the "feature/pyweb-wizard" remote branch, and
> we pushed the changes directly to master. That branch has not all the
> commits, since some additional changes were required after pushing the
> branch to master.
> 
> I can provide a single and clean patch with all the changes, if
> required, including the removal of the java files. I think the java
> version should stay in the master branch for the time being, while the
> QA tests verify that all the functionality has been ported correctly.
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Fwd: User Ideas page to collect and vote on ideas

[Terrence Enger]

On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 09:31 -0700, Pedro wrote:
> Mirosław Zalewski wrote
> > BTW: could developers agree that one feature from top ten on such page
> > will be 
> > implemented for each major release? Or maybe should we go into
> > crowdfunding?
> 
> They already said they couldn't/wouldn't compromise with such voting scheme.

I have spent quite a log of time hanging out on the developer list, on
the QA list, and in bugzilla.  It is my impression that a developer
hardly ever spends much time thinking "Ho hum, I wonder what I might
find to work on next?".  We are in better shape than some commercial
projects where I have wasted a pile of time (at my usual outrageours
hourly rate ).

Let me try to turn the argument around.  What have you seen added to
LibreOffice that you consider a waste of time?  I mean, a waste of
time so clear that you are willing to call it as such?  This
approximates an upper bound on the benefit to be expected from an
absolutely perfect, 100% efficent way of assigning work.

To prioritze is to posteriorize.

Terry.


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

[Bjoern Michaelsen]

On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 09:46:18PM +0200, Eike Rathke wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thursday, 2013-05-16 17:55:11 +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> 
> > > * Hamburg hack-fest (Thorsten)
> > AI: + connect to University of Hamburg (Eike, verbally commited to that 
> > in a careless moment)
> 
> Lol, contact initialized, Bjoern (was on Cc) will have to take over.

Thats clearly cheating!

Best,

Bjoern
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[Libreoffice-qa] [ANNOUNCE] Branch libreoffice-4-1 created

[Petr Mladek]

Hi all,

as promised, we have created a branch for the stabilization of the
4.1.x releases, called 'libreoffice-4-1'. It is based on master, last
pull on May 21, 2013 at about 10am UTC:

commit a2c9d4f8bbde97f175bae4df771273a61251f402
Author: Rodolfo Ribeiro Gomes 
Little cleanup in image loader internal functions

See also the tag libreoffice-4-1-branch-point.

The following rules apply:

+ only bugfixes are allowed
+ no approval needed during beta phase until June 17, 2013
+ 1 approval needed during rc phase and upcoming bug fix releases
+ 3 approvals with different/no affiliation needed for late
  features

IMPORTANT: Every developer is responsible for pushing fixes into all
   appropriate branches. Note that we do not plan any merge
   from this branch to master or vice versa.

   Please, help use to make stable and usable 4.1.0 release.
   Do not forget to push useful fixes to this branch.

   "git cherry-pick commit-id" is your friend :-)
 


The 'master' branch is used for 4.2 development and has the rules:

+ free commit; do your best to do not break build and
  functionality
+ any development allowed


For further information about the roadmap, please check

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan


Now, if you want to switch your clone to the libreoffice-4-1 branch,
do:

./g pull -r
./g checkout -b libreoffice-4-1 origin/libreoffice-4-1

Hopefully it will work for you :-)  Most probably, you will also want to
do (if you haven't done it yet):

git config --global push.default tracking

When you do git push with this, git will push only the branch you are
on; ie. libreoffice-4-1 when you have switched to it.  This will
save you some git shouting at you.

Happy hacking,
Petr


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