Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Mas
On Jul 26, 2013 2:01 PM, "Robinson Tryon"  wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Joel Madero 
wrote:
> >
> > Now the question is - how do we reach out to the NA community and say
"we
> > need to balance out our teams!" - a couple people from the triage
contest
> > were from the US - wonder if they'd be interested.
>
> We could go with the tried and true "the British are coming!"...
> :-)
>
> I think pinging the users list would be a good start. In terms of
> general NA involvement, it's partially just a question of good
> recruitment. Finding users that have the time and ability to make some
> good contributions. A part of that, as you (Joel) have pointed out, is
> convincing people that they don't need a ton of experience to hop in
> and get started!
>
> --R

Thanks everyone for opening up a dialogue about changing the time some. I
am open for anytime after 10am.  My personal work schedule Friday by 9 is
kind of rough at the moment. So if the day has to be Friday. Can we move
the time later in the day so we can have Joel involved with the call. He
has been a huge voice for the QA team. I would not want to take him away
from this project. I am willing to work along his schedule.  Between noon
and 5pm eat will work perfectly for me..

Mas
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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2013-07-26

2013-07-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hello all,

Minutes from our QA meeting today are available here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/July_26

Our next QA Meeting will be in 2 weeks on August 9th. Agenda may be found here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/August_09

- - - - - - -

New! QA Monthly Chat

If you haven't been able to attend our regular QA meetings, we're
thinking about adding a monthly chat sometime in the afternoon/evening
for the North American crowd. This would be more informal than our
biweekly meetings, and a great place for people to get more involved
with QA or just to get to know the members of the QA Team.

If you're thinking about inviting someone to join, please let them
know that there are a bunch of beginner tasks -- no programming or QA
experience is necessary! Plus, mentors are available to help beginners
out.

For more information, please email the QA list or Joel.


Cheers,
-- Robinson
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Joel Madero  wrote:
>
> Now the question is - how do we reach out to the NA community and say "we
> need to balance out our teams!" - a couple people from the triage contest
> were from the US - wonder if they'd be interested.

We could go with the tried and true "the British are coming!"...
:-)

I think pinging the users list would be a good start. In terms of
general NA involvement, it's partially just a question of good
recruitment. Finding users that have the time and ability to make some
good contributions. A part of that, as you (Joel) have pointed out, is
convincing people that they don't need a ton of experience to hop in
and get started!

--R
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Joel Madero

On 07/26/2013 10:24 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote:

On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Joel Madero  wrote:

P.S. Another option is to have a US call later in the day maybe once a month
to go over the "normal" call and get more people in our timezones involved
with projects - if this is a possibility then I can give everyone my school
schedule and hopefully with only a +/-3 hour we can find some time that
works. I know right now it's Mas, Robinson and myself in the US timezones -
everyone else is European I believe.

+1

Personally, I think the NA area needs to be tapped for more talent...
both for QA, and in other areas. A monthly US call sounds like a good
place to start.

What do people think about first Friday of the month?  (August 2nd is
1 week from now)

--R
If we can get at least 4-6 people involved I'm +1 on that - I prefer a 
little later than our current regular call if possible (6am sucks). Here 
is my schedule starting August 12th:


http://www.law.uci.edu/orientation/first-year-schedule.html

Keep in mind that I actually start ~2 hours before the earliest class 
because of the train so early is a no go - Fridays between noon - 5pm 
PST seem like a good starting point for me but open to other times/days 
that fit into that schedule.


Now the question is - how do we reach out to the NA community and say 
"we need to balance out our teams!" - a couple people from the triage 
contest were from the US - wonder if they'd be interested.



Best,
Joel
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Joel Madero  wrote:
>
> P.S. Another option is to have a US call later in the day maybe once a month
> to go over the "normal" call and get more people in our timezones involved
> with projects - if this is a possibility then I can give everyone my school
> schedule and hopefully with only a +/-3 hour we can find some time that
> works. I know right now it's Mas, Robinson and myself in the US timezones -
> everyone else is European I believe.

+1

Personally, I think the NA area needs to be tapped for more talent...
both for QA, and in other areas. A monthly US call sounds like a good
place to start.

What do people think about first Friday of the month?  (August 2nd is
1 week from now)

--R
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO 4.1.0.4 does not start from KDE menu?

2013-07-26 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Petr, *,
On Freitag, 26. Juli 2013 16:29 Petr Mladek wrote:
> (and once again to the mailing list :-)

"G"

> Thomas Hackert píše v Pá 26. 07. 2013 v 16:03 +0200:
>> and now my second try ... :( I have sent this message to the qa
>> list and got a message á la "Your mail is waiting for a
>> moderator" for whatever reason ... :(
> 
> Florian Reisinger  is looking it. I hope
> that he would solve it.

In my case it is, because I am subscribed via gmane, but sent my 
last two mails with my MUA ... ;)

>> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 01:49:17PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
>> > Please, make sure that you have installed the package
>> > libreoffice4.1-debian-menus_4.1.0-4_all.deb.
>> 
>> I found out, that for some reason I have installed
>> 
>> ii  libreoffice-debian-menus  3.6.7-2
>> all  LibreOffice desktop integration
> 
> This one is not needed if you do not have the other 3.6.7
> packages.

Not any longer ... ;) As I have written below, I have purged it a 
couple of day ago ... ;)

>> ii  libreoffice4.1-debian-menus   4.1.0-4
>> all  LibreOffice 4.1 desktop integration
>> 
>> . Though I have purged LO 3.6.7 a couple of days ago, I seem to
>> have missed this one ... :(
> 
> There was a bug that the libreoffice-debian-menus package names
> were not versioned. The package 4.1.0.4 buld has the name
> libreoffice4.1-debian-menus, so it finally has the same prefix as
> the other libreoffice4.1 packages and can be installed in parallel
> with 3.6.

O.K.

>> > You might need to remove the package "libreoffice" before.
>> 
>> Which one? That from Debian (which is not installed) or from TDF?
> 
> The one from TDF if you have it.

4.1.0.4 then?

>> > Note that "libreoffice" was wrong name of the "debian-menus"
>> > package in earlier RCs, see
>> > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67041
>> 
>> All dev builds are installed following
>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel.
> 
> So, you did the following?
> 
> for i in ../*.deb; do dpkg-deb -x $i . ; done

Something like that ... ;) But only for daily builds or pre-releases 
... ;)

> Hmm, this just unpack the files but it does not call the
> postinstall scripts. You might want to remove the files and really
> install the packages using:
> 
> sudo dpkg -i *.deb

Parallel to my installed 4.1.0.4? I mean, I have parallel installed 
LO Version: 4.1.1.0.0+
Build ID: 0fa175d2ce8a0d21fced2c5f61528797d919c0f
TinderBox: Linux-x86_64@31-Release-Configuration-RHEL5-Baseline, 
Branch:libreoffice-4-1, Time: 2013-07-25_10:13:25, but would like to 
avoid it to install it system wide ... ;)

>> > You might also try to reinstall the "debian-menus" package to
>> > make sure that the postinstall scripts were called correctly.
>> 
>> Does not change anything ... :(
> 
> I hope that it is because using "dpkg-deb -x" instead of "dpkg
> -i".

My 4.1.0.4 version is installed as root via "dpkg -i ...", but even 
though I can not start LO from KDE's menu ... :(
Thanks for your answer
Thomas.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC4 test builds available for smoketesting

2013-07-26 Thread Dan Lewis

On 07/26/2013 07:48 AM, Petr Mladek wrote:

(another attempt to post this to the mailing list)

Dan Lewis píše v Čt 25. 07. 2013 v 11:55 -0400:

  There still seems to be a problem with 4.1.0.4 for Debian x86. I
downloaded it for my Ubuntu laptop and then installed. It installs
in /opt/libreoffice4.1. However, when I click on soffice in
the /opt/libreoffice4.1/program folder, version 4.0.3.3 appears when I
click on Help > About LibreOffice. The download was from
http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/.
  I'm now sure what happened since I installed version 4.0.3.3 when
it first came out.
  Another thing: Today's installation added 4.1.0.4 to my menu.
However, if I double click any of the LibreOffice 4.1.0.4, the 4.0.3.3
is the one that runs.

I see two possibilities:

1. The old version 4.1.0.3 might still be running because of
quickstarter. Please, try to kill the process "soffice.bin".

2. The update failed and you did not notice it. Note that there
was a dependency problem with the "debian-menus" package, see
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67041

Please, make sure that you really have the 4.1.0.3-4 packages
installed.


Best Regards,
Petr
   I'm not sure what happened, and I still do not understand it all. I 
don't use quickstarter with my Debian LibreOffice versions. It is 
possible that the version 4.0.3.3 was running at the time I tried to 
start 4.1.0.4.

What puzzles me is that I got the splash screen appeared when I did this.
   This morning, I clicked the 4.1.0.4 menu item for LibreOffice. This 
time, the Help > About LibreOffice shows the version as 4.1.0.4. So, 
problem solved.


--Dan
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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Time

2013-07-26 Thread Joel Madero

Hi All,

Mas has brought up changing the time or day or both of our QA call so I 
was hoping everyone who regularly participates will comment so we get an 
idea of where people stand. Ideally of course our goal is to get as many 
people involved who can contribute to our multitude of projects but, 
time zones makes it impossible to accommodate everyone and I don't think 
teams are big enough to do more than 1 call at this point.


The suggestion was moving it an hour later on Friday or on another day.


So for me - and please don't be swayed because of my schedule ;) An hour 
later on any day becomes very difficult for me but even the current time 
might not work once I start school on 2013/08/12. The current time is 
6am for me and looking at my schedule Friday *should* work barring 
problems at that time but there is no guarantee. As I start school I'll 
be evaluating what is possible in terms of volunteer time but I hope to 
stay equally involved or close to the current level going forward.


So my vote or 2 cents - keep current time and day as it's really the 
only time that *should* work for me at least for this semester. That 
being said - if others disagree feel free to change the day/time and if 
I can't attend then oh well - Robinson's great minutes will keep me in 
the loop and I'll still be able to contribute through IRC and ML.



Thanks all!



Warm Regards,
Joel


P.S. Another option is to have a US call later in the day maybe once a 
month to go over the "normal" call and get more people in our timezones 
involved with projects - if this is a possibility then I can give 
everyone my school schedule and hopefully with only a +/-3 hour we can 
find some time that works. I know right now it's Mas, Robinson and 
myself in the US timezones - everyone else is European I believe.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO 4.1.0.4 does not start from KDE menu?

2013-07-26 Thread Petr Mladek
(and once again to the mailing list :-)

Thomas Hackert píše v Pá 26. 07. 2013 v 16:03 +0200:
> Hello Petr, *,
> 
> and now my second try ... :( I have sent this message to the qa list and
> got a message á la "Your mail is waiting for a moderator" for whatever
> reason ... :(

Florian Reisinger  is looking it. I hope that he
would solve it.

> On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 01:49:17PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> > Please, make sure that you have installed the package
> > libreoffice4.1-debian-menus_4.1.0-4_all.deb.
> 
> I found out, that for some reason I have installed
> 
> ii  libreoffice-debian-menus  3.6.7-2
> all  LibreOffice desktop integration

This one is not needed if you do not have the other 3.6.7 packages.

> ii  libreoffice4.1-debian-menus   4.1.0-4
> all  LibreOffice 4.1 desktop integration
> 
> . Though I have purged LO 3.6.7 a couple of days ago, I seem to have
> missed this one ... :(

There was a bug that the libreoffice-debian-menus package names were not
versioned. The package 4.1.0.4 buld has the name
libreoffice4.1-debian-menus, so it finally has the same prefix as the
other libreoffice4.1 packages and can be installed in parallel with 3.6.

> > You might need to remove the package "libreoffice" before.
> 
> Which one? That from Debian (which is not installed) or from TDF?

The one from TDF if you have it.

> > Note that "libreoffice" was wrong name of the "debian-menus" package in
> > earlier RCs, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67041
> 
> All dev builds are installed following
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel.

So, you did the following?

for i in ../*.deb; do dpkg-deb -x $i . ; done

Hmm, this just unpack the files but it does not call the postinstall
scripts. You might want to remove the files and really install the
packages using:

sudo dpkg -i *.deb

> > You might also try to reinstall the "debian-menus" package to make sure
> > that the postinstall scripts were called correctly.
> 
> Does not change anything ... :(

I hope that it is because using "dpkg-deb -x" instead of "dpkg -i".

Best Regards,
Petr


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO 4.1.0.4 does not start from KDE menu?

2013-07-26 Thread Petr Mladek
(another attempt to send this to the mailing list)

Thomas Hackert píše v Čt 25. 07. 2013 v 18:38 +0200:
> Hello @ll,
> after I have installed LO Version: 4.1.0.4 Build ID: 
> 89ea49ddacd9aa532507cbf852f2bb22b1ace28 with Germanophone help- as 
> well as langpack, I am no longer able to start it from "K menu - 
> Office - LibreOffice 4.1 Writer" (there is also a menu item missing 
> for LO StartCenter ... :( ). There is no splash screen or anything 
> ... :( When I start LO via /opt/libreoffice4.1/program/soffice, it 
> works ... ;)

Please, make sure that you have installed the package
libreoffice4.1-debian-menus_4.1.0-4_all.deb. You might need to remove
the package "libreoffice" before.

Note that "libreoffice" was wrong name of the "debian-menus" package in
earlier RCs, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67041

You might also try to reinstall the "debian-menus" package to make sure
that the postinstall scripts were called correctly.

Finally, you might try to re-login to make sure that the desktop menu
caches are regenerated.

Best Regards,
Petr


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MAB. 3.6 to 4.0 migration. When?

2013-07-26 Thread Petr Mladek
(I am sorry for duplicit posting. There was a problem in the mailing
list setting and my mail had been eaten.)


Tommy píše v St 24. 07. 2013 v 20:39 +0200:
> 3.6.7 is out and will be the last 3.6 release.
> I'm just curious to know when still living 3.6 bugs will be moved to the  
> 4.0 list.

IMHO, we could start at any time now. But please, double check it with
Joel.

> I offer my help to revise some of those bugs and move them to the new list  
> if they are still valid in 4.0.4.

Thanks a lot for your offer. It will be a big help!

I think that we should use this opportunity also for some clean up. As
you mention, it would be great to double check if the bugs are still
valid. Also we should double check that they really deserve to be MABs,
see https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Most_Annoying_Bugs

The problem is that we are not that strict all the time. It helped to
reduce useless fights about the priority. On the other hand, we should
not keep the wrongly sorted bugs for years. If a bug is not fixed soon
there is something smelly about it ;-)

First, let's repeat how MABs work. The severity/priority is not set
correctly for most bugs, so it is hard to see the important bugs in the
jungle. MABs help to highlight the most critical bugs and bring
developers attention. The comments from the meta bug are sent to the
developer mailing list and the bugs are advertised there. Developers
monitor it and give these bugs high priority. The nearly blockers are
fixed almost immediately. The other _very_ critical bugs are fixed
within days or weeks. Some bugs are somehow ignored, see below.

The main purpose of MAB is to get TOP priority attention. It is for
blockers, nearly blockers, something that really should get fixed very
soon. These are usually regressions that affect many people, do not have
any workaround, ...

The magic will work only if we keep the flow on reasonable level (max 10
bugs per week?). Otherwise, developers won't be able to keep up with the
flood, the list of non-fixed bug will grow and we will get another
swamp. It will lose the dynamics and all parts will get frustrated.

Now, what are the MABs that are not fixed for months and how to deal
with them? I would split them into several groups:

 + annoying problems that newer worked or did not worked more
   than two years; users are already somehow used to live with
   them

   => they does not belong to MAB because they are not
   urgent by definition


 + annoying problems that affect only limited group of users
   and have workaround; they were usually added by the reporter;
   it was an attempt to get attention; they were ignored by
   developers because they see more important bugs around

   => they does not belong to MABs as well


 + hard to fix problems; some things are hard to debug and it
   is hard to find a volunteer to work on them; if they are
   really critical and need to be fixed soon

   => ESC should get noticed and find a volunteer ;-)


OK, it was theory. Now, how to do this practically? I would use the
following approach:

 1. check if the bug is still valid; if not
 
=> close it


 2. check if it was newly nominated (<2 months) and looks critical
and urgent

=> simply move it to 4.0 MABs

 3. it does not belong to MAB as described above

=> I would remove it with some kind message about that we
understand the annoyance but the bug does not fit the top 50
most critical bugs

also please, set the severity and priority more reasonable as
suggested by
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Prioritizing_Bugs_Flowchart.jpg

finally, if it looks really annoying, you might consider adding
some experts into CC, see
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/FindTheExpert
So, it is left on the radar.


  4. If you are in doubts; of the bug looks really critical and
 ignored for more than 2 months; please add a comment about that
 you are not sure about the status, if it belongs to MABs, etc.,
 and add "Need_Advice" whiteboard flag, see
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Whiteboard


Please, do not get scared to remove bugs from MAB. About 3000 bugs were
fixed for LO 4.1 as mentioned at
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/4-1-new-features-and-fixes/
Only small part of them was fixed via the MABs process. By other words,
if you remove a bug from MAB, it does not mean that it is dead ;-)

I am sorry for the long mail but I wanted to provide a more global view.
I hope that it will help.


Best Regards,
Petr


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] LO 4.1.0.4 does not start from KDE menu?

2013-07-26 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Petr, *,
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 01:49:17PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> (another attempt to send this to the mailing list)

not sure, what happened, but both messages seem not in the archive now
... :( I could only use  to answer (and change to the ML address)
insteal of  ... :(

> Thomas Hackert píše v Čt 25. 07. 2013 v 18:38 +0200:
> > after I have installed LO Version: 4.1.0.4 Build ID: 
> > 89ea49ddacd9aa532507cbf852f2bb22b1ace28 with Germanophone help- as 
> > well as langpack, I am no longer able to start it from "K menu - 
> > Office - LibreOffice 4.1 Writer" (there is also a menu item missing 
> > for LO StartCenter ... :( ). There is no splash screen or anything 
> > ... :( When I start LO via /opt/libreoffice4.1/program/soffice, it 
> > works ... ;)
> 
> Please, make sure that you have installed the package
> libreoffice4.1-debian-menus_4.1.0-4_all.deb.

I found out, that for some reason I have installed

ii  libreoffice-debian-menus  3.6.7-2
all  LibreOffice desktop integration
ii  libreoffice4.1-debian-menus   4.1.0-4
all  LibreOffice 4.1 desktop integration

. Though I have purged LO 3.6.7 a couple of days ago, I seem to have
missed this one ... :(

> You might need to remove the package "libreoffice" before.

Which one? That from Debian (which is not installed) or from TDF?

> Note that "libreoffice" was wrong name of the "debian-menus" package in
> earlier RCs, see https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67041

All dev builds are installed following
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Installing_in_parallel.

> You might also try to reinstall the "debian-menus" package to make sure
> that the postinstall scripts were called correctly.

Does not change anything ... :(

> Finally, you might try to re-login to make sure that the desktop menu
> caches are regenerated.

Maybe later ... ;)
Thanks for your answer
Thomas.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.1.0 RC4 test builds available for smoketesting

2013-07-26 Thread Petr Mladek
(another attempt to post this to the mailing list)

Dan Lewis píše v Čt 25. 07. 2013 v 11:55 -0400:
>  There still seems to be a problem with 4.1.0.4 for Debian x86. I
> downloaded it for my Ubuntu laptop and then installed. It installs
> in /opt/libreoffice4.1. However, when I click on soffice in
> the /opt/libreoffice4.1/program folder, version 4.0.3.3 appears when I
> click on Help > About LibreOffice. The download was from
> http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/pre-releases/.
>  I'm now sure what happened since I installed version 4.0.3.3 when
> it first came out.
>  Another thing: Today's installation added 4.1.0.4 to my menu.
> However, if I double click any of the LibreOffice 4.1.0.4, the 4.0.3.3
> is the one that runs.

I see two possibilities:

1. The old version 4.1.0.3 might still be running because of
   quickstarter. Please, try to kill the process "soffice.bin".

2. The update failed and you did not notice it. Note that there
   was a dependency problem with the "debian-menus" package, see
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=67041

   Please, make sure that you really have the 4.1.0.3-4 packages
   installed.


Best Regards,
Petr



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MAB. 3.6 to 4.0 migration. When?

2013-07-26 Thread Florian Reisinger

Hi,

Am 26.07.2013 12:42, schrieb Tommy:

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:39:24 +0200, Tommy  wrote:


3.6.7 is out and will be the last 3.6 release.
I'm just curious to know when still living 3.6 bugs will be moved to 
the 4.0 list.


Do you mean MAB? After EOL (End of Life [at TDF]) the list should be 
checked and I firmly believe, that this will be quite automatic


I offer my help to revise some of those bugs and move them to the new 
list if they are still valid in 4.0.4.




any feedback from the QA team?


I really appriciate every single helping hand. If you want to help, you 
may consider starting with these bugs (long link) 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=326020&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=REOPENED&version=unspecified&version=3.3.0%20Beta2&version=3.3.0%20Beta3&version=3.3.0%20RC1&version=3.3.0%20RC2&version=3.3.0%20RC3&version=3.3.0%20RC4&version=3.3.0%20release&version=3.3.1%20RC1&version=3.3.1%20release&version=3.3.2%20RC1&version=3.3.2%20RC2&version=3.3.2%20release&version=3.4.0%20Beta1&version=3.4.0%20Beta2&version=3.4.0%20Beta3&version=3.4.0%20Beta4&version=3.4.0%20Beta5&version=3.4.0%20RC1&version=3.3.3%20release&version=3.4.0%20release&version=3.4.1%20RC1&version=3.4.1%20RC2&version=3.4.1%20release&version=3.4%20Daily&version=Master%20old%20%20-3.6&version=3.4.2%20RC1&version=3.4.2%20RC2&version=3.4.2%20release&version=3.3.4%20release&version=3.4.3%20RC1&version=3.4.3%20release&version=3.4.4%20RC1&version=3.4.4%20release&version=3.5.0%20Beta0&version=3.5.0%20Beta1&version=3.4.5%20RC1&version=3.5.0%20Beta2&version=3.4.5%20release&version=3.5.0%20Beta3&version=3.5.0%20RC1&version=3.5.0%20RC2&version=3.5.0%20release&version=3.5.1%20RC1&version=3.5.1%20release&version=3.4.6%20RC1&version=3.4.6%20release&version=3.5%20Daily&version=3.5.2%20RC1&version=3.5.2%20release&version=3.5.3%20RC1&version=3.5.3%20release&version=3.5.4%20RC1&version=3.5.4%20release&version=3.6.0.0.alpha1&version=4.0.0.0.alpha0%2B%20Master&version=3.6.0.0.beta1&version=3.5.5.1%20rc&version=3.6.0.0.beta2&version=3.5.5.2%20rc&version=3.5.5.3%20release&version=3.6.0.0.beta3&version=3.6.0.1%20rc&version=3.6.0.2%20rc&version=3.6.0.3%20rc&version=3.6.0.4%20release&version=3.5.6.1%20rc&version=3.5.6.2%20release&version=3.6.1.1%20rc&version=3.6.1.2%20release&version=3.6.2.1%20rc&version=3.5.7.1%20rc&version=3.6.2.2%20release&version=3.5.7.2%20release&version=3.6.3.1%20rc&version=3.6.3.2%20release&version=3.6.4.1%20rc&version=3.6.4.3%20release&version=3.6.5.2%20release&version=3.6.6.1%20rc&version=3.6.6.2%20release&version=3.6.7.1%20rc&version=3.3%20all%20versions&version=3.4%20all%20versions&version=3.5%20all%20versions&version=3.6.7.2%20rc&product=LibreOffice


If you need any help, please ask.
PS: The version field has the oldest version, where the bug can be 
reproduced




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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] MAB. 3.6 to 4.0 migration. When?

2013-07-26 Thread Tommy

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 20:39:24 +0200, Tommy  wrote:


3.6.7 is out and will be the last 3.6 release.
I'm just curious to know when still living 3.6 bugs will be moved to the  
4.0 list.
I offer my help to revise some of those bugs and move them to the new  
list if they are still valid in 4.0.4.




any feedback from the QA team?

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