[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-10-31 Thread Michael Meeks

* Present:
+ Christian, Eike, David, Stephan, Adam, Andras, Kohei, Markus, Kendy,
  Michael M, Michael S., Miklos, Norbert

* Completed Action Items:
+ poke Matus wrt. callgrind / performance VM (Michael)
+ Include new C* font google replacements into vanilla install (Caolan)
+ draw bugzilla migration threads together & propose funding to the board 
(Robinson)
[ migration seems to be ongoing thanks to Thorsten / Tollef ]
+ produce a VM for the load / crash regressions (Cloph / Markus)
[ setup, and running the tests - quite a few false positives,
  need to make it public. Running the second batch of tests ]

http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/crashtest/7cd77d5cb0b6fd3343f2703c73e2dc4b65fc0e9e/
The interesting files are crashlog.txt if it is there.
Encourage people with time -> mid compile or whatever to take
a file & fix it. Quite a few string-length assertions firing now.
40-50 to address in 4.2 / master. ]
+ test and get backtraces for Java issue on Maverick (Norbert)
[ have to re-install Java after upgrade, the OS/prompt dialog
  can cause a crash. The solution - not publish wiki-publisher
  on Mac. The wiki-publisher, as soon as you type in writer
  Java is instantiated on Mac. Wikipublisher brings a menu entry
  from file->send->... when you type we instantiate all the menus
  so Mac can decided if there is a shortcut ... (sberg)
  Should we remove wiki-publisher completely ? (Michael)
 + just for Mac is enough for now (Sberg) ]

* Pending Action Items:
+ New templates (Ahmad)
[ work in progress hard-coding templates as code ]
+ produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
[ waiting for details on what should be installed ]
+ partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
[ started, need to work on script to split it down ]
+ get setup wrt. mobile app-store access (Cloph / Thorsten)
[ in progress around 4.1.3, pending Thorsten overcoming some
  Android remote build problems with all langs ]
+ poke people around FOSDEM, and get submission details from Italo (Kendy)
[ pending reply from Italo ]

* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.1.3 status
   + confusion again wrt. communication, now scheduled for tomorrow morning.
+ 4.2 Alpha 1 release planned for Monday ...
   + Feature freeze is Nov 18th.
+ GSOC / Android & iOS remote control releases from master update
   + credentials setup, iOS pending input from Thorsten
+ OpenCL functions & feature freeze
   + not concerned wrt. continuing development if not enabled by default

* New Keynote import filter (David)
+ first version integrated into LibreOffice
+ 
https://plus.google.com/photos/109896341870720226179/albums/5940508193610436897/5940508196458171922?pid=5940508196458171922&oid=109896341870720226179
+ supports text, shapes, images
+ missing tables, formatting, comments etc.
+ 
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=libetonyek.git;a=blob;f=FEATURES
AI: + create mirror of libetonyek on freedesktop (Michael)


* New commit access:
+ Marcos Souza - doing some good work (Norbert)
   + will be at the hack-fest.
+ Ray - doing good openCL work (Kohei)
AI:+ add ijsung.


* 'UniString' is truly dead ? (Caolan)
+ still get the occasional StringLen class around the place, and a few
  legacy 64k limits are around with 16bit indexes into strings etc.
+ does that finally fix the 64k limit on paragraphs ? (Michael)
- nearly done, but not got to that yet (Caolan)
+ lots of work, and a great outcome - thanks to all that helped,
AI: + ask Noel Grandin to blog about it (Caolan)


* solver going away (Michael S)
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/6515/
+ will push when finished building in gerrit.
+ instdir vs. instsetoo_.. tab completion pain (Michael)
   + need to get workdir & instdir combined (Stephan)
  + avoiding ORIGIN problems & LD_LIBRARY_PATH horrors during build
  + perhaps move instdir under workdir ?
  + could we use absolute paths ? (Michael S)
  + path from instdir -> workdir is always fixed (Michael S)
  + just an idea, easy sol'n make it a subdir of workdir (Stephan)
+ want to remove INPATH [ eg. unxlngi6.pro ] (Michael S)
   + except for cross-compilation with two inpaths
  + use two different paths ?


* Google C* font replacements / update (Caolan)
+ we should back-port to 4.1.x
   + would be a good plan, but no time to get to it yet.
AI:+ already looking into that (Caolan)


* Certification progress (Kendy)
+ worth re-running the statistics of top bug fixers & see if
  there are new names.
   + script - sorts by number of bugs fixed.
+ what about people who implemented features ? eg. GSOC (Michael)
   +

[Libreoffice-qa] Why does the "Tools - Options" menu get that wide?

2013-10-31 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello @ll,
be prepared: I will send a couple of different mails with different 
questions, which I noticed since the release of 4.1 for Debian 
Testing AMD64 ... ;)

First one:
When I open LO Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID: 
40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38 with installed Germanophone 
help- as well as langpack, go to "Tools – Options – LibreOffice – 
General", I can see the field for the initials, but not the end of 
the field of it. The same applies for the "Back" button at the 
bottom right of the dialog, where I can only see "Rückgän" instead 
of "Rückgängig" in the Germanophone UI ... :( If I open LO Version: 
4.2.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: aeb29afa11b7be87153f048044a2d4af9a87b50c
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@46-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 
2013-10-29_20:58:33 (but I have also seen it on other builds 
before), it is more horrible: The dialog window is too far to the 
right to see the initials field or the text on the "Back" button ... 
:( Is it only on my system? Or can someone confirm it with an other 
OS/architecture/graphics chip or card/driver/something else? With up 
to version 4.0.x that dialog fits from the left to the right side on 
my monitor, without vanishing parts of it ... ;)

OS: Debian Testing AMD64
Graphics chip: NVidia C61 GeForce 6150
Driver: ii  libdrm-nouveau1a:amd64 2.4.40-1~deb7u2 amd64 Userspace 
interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 2.4.46-3 amd64 Userspace interface to 
nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.9-2+b2 amd64 X.Org X server -- 
Nouveau display driver
Resolution: 1024x768/24
Have a nice evening
Thomas.

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[Libreoffice-qa] White bar at the bottom of "Tools - Options - LibreOffice - Appearance"

2013-10-31 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hi @gain,
and another one ... ;)
If you
1. Go to "Tools – Options – LibreOffice – Appearance" and
2. Scroll to the bottom of the right window,
there is a visible white bar below the last enty "Text Box Bound 
Context" below the Oracle Report Builder colour settings. Is this 
intended? Or can someone confirm it?
In LO Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID: 
40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38 with installed Germanophone 
lang- as well as helppack, it does not evident, as the background of 
this dialog is white as well. It only seems to be a little more 
space than needed there ... ;) But if you have a look at LO Version: 
4.2.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: aeb29afa11b7be87153f048044a2d4af9a87b50c
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@46-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 
2013-10-29_20:58:33 with installed en-US lang- as well as helppack, 
the background of this dialog is grey, so the space below is visible 
... :( Is this a bug or a feature?

OS: Debian Testing AMD64
Graphics chip: NVidia C61 GeForce 6150
Driver: ii  libdrm-nouveau1a:amd64 2.4.40-1~deb7u2 amd64 Userspace 
interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 2.4.46-3 amd64 Userspace interface to 
nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.9-2+b2 amd64 X.Org X server -- 
Nouveau display driver
Resolution: 1024x768/24 on NEC MultiSync XE17

Is it only on my system, or can someone with another 
OS/architecture/graphics chip or card/something else can confirm it?
Thanks for any info
Thomas.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Difference between "Tools - Options - LibreOffice" and OLH

2013-10-31 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hi again,
I hope, this is the last one for today ... ;)

If you open "Tools – Options", there is the button "Revert" at the 
bottom right of the dialog. If you open the OLH, click on "Menus" -> 
"Tools" (after scrolling down to it ... ;) ) -> scroll again to 
"Options", click on "LibreOfficeDev" and scroll to the end of the 
page, you will find

Back
Resets modified values back to the LibreOfficeDev default values.

... :( Should this not be change to

Revert
Resets modified values back to the LibreOfficeDev default values.

? Or maybe use "Reset" in both cases? In the Germanophone OLH/UI it 
is the same problem (and maybe in other NLs as well?), as the button 
says "Rückgängig", but OLH has

Zurück
Setzt geänderte Werte wieder auf die beim Öffnen von LibreOffice 
geltenden Standardwerte zurück.

in it ... :(

LO: Version: 4.2.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 
aeb29afa11b7be87153f048044a2d4af9a87b50c
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@46-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 
2013-10-29_20:58:33 with installed en-US lang- as well as helppack 
for the English example. German example from LO Version: 4.1.2.3 
Build ID: 40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38
OS: Debian Testing AMD64

Sorry for the inconvenience and have a nice evening
Thomas.

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[Libreoffice-qa] quick question on function in Master

2013-10-31 Thread Cor Nouws

Hi,

People running a daily/master build, could the pls look what is the 
result when choosing:


  File > Templates > Save As Template
and
  File > Templates > New Document From Template

Background: for me there is some strange behaviour, but for someone else 
it works fine...


(BTW: the latter entry should be renamed).

thanks a lot,
Cor

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Why does the "Tools - Options" menu get that wide?

2013-10-31 Thread Jochen Schiffers

Hi Thomas,


Is it only on my system?

No problem using Germanophone UI 4.1.2
OS: Windows 7
Resolution: 1920x1080

Regards

Jochen


Am 31.10.2013 18:22, schrieb Thomas Hackert:

Hello @ll,
be prepared: I will send a couple of different mails with different
questions, which I noticed since the release of 4.1 for Debian
Testing AMD64 ... ;)

First one:
When I open LO Version: 4.1.2.3 Build ID:
40b2d7fde7e8d2d7bc5a449dc65df4d08a7dd38 with installed Germanophone
help- as well as langpack, go to "Tools – Options – LibreOffice –
General", I can see the field for the initials, but not the end of
the field of it. The same applies for the "Back" button at the
bottom right of the dialog, where I can only see "Rückgän" instead
of "Rückgängig" in the Germanophone UI ... :( If I open LO Version:
4.2.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: aeb29afa11b7be87153f048044a2d4af9a87b50c
TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@46-TDF, Branch:master, Time:
2013-10-29_20:58:33 (but I have also seen it on other builds
before), it is more horrible: The dialog window is too far to the
right to see the initials field or the text on the "Back" button ...
:( Is it only on my system? Or can someone confirm it with an other
OS/architecture/graphics chip or card/driver/something else? With up
to version 4.0.x that dialog fits from the left to the right side on
my monitor, without vanishing parts of it ... ;)

OS: Debian Testing AMD64
Graphics chip: NVidia C61 GeForce 6150
Driver: ii  libdrm-nouveau1a:amd64 2.4.40-1~deb7u2 amd64 Userspace
interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  libdrm-nouveau2:amd64 2.4.46-3 amd64 Userspace interface to
nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.9-2+b2 amd64 X.Org X server --
Nouveau display driver
Resolution: 1024x768/24
Have a nice evening
Thomas.



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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Call moving to Mondays at 19:30 UTC

2013-10-31 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

A big thanks to all of the QA folks who have listed their hours of
availability on the Doodle or who have emailed us directly. We
received a lot of useful input and are optimistic that our new time
will allow more QA Team members to join the call!

We're right around the switchover time for Daylight Savings, but I
believe that most countries who observe the practice will have
switched by this coming Monday. The easiest way to translate the UTC
time into your local time is to use the following link:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=19&min=30&sec=0&day=04&month=11&year=2013

We'll try out the new time for a meeting or two and see how much
interest/attendance we get before making a permanent shift to Monday.
I hope to see many of you on the next call! To review or add new items
to the Agenda, please visit the following wiki page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/November_04

Cheers,
--R
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