[Libreoffice-qa] Impress slows system down, if you are using several effects and run the presentation?

2013-12-01 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello @ll,
when I create a new presentation with a couple of effects, Impress 
slows my system down, that my watch hangs for nearly 15 seconds ... 
:(

Steps to reproduce:
1. Start Impress
2. Choose "Metropolis" from the "Master Page" pane in the Sidebar
3. Click on the "Click to add title" and add something in it
4. Click on "Click to add text" and add something there
5. Now click on the slide in the "Slides" pane
6. Duplicate the slide
7. Choose "Slide transition" from the Sidebar
8. Choose "Venetian Blinds 3D Vertical"
9. Click on the title of the first slide
10. Click on "Custom Animation" icon in the side bar
11. Click on the plus sign to create a custom animation
12. Click "Colored Lettering" on the "Entrance" tab and click "OK"
13. Click on the text frame on the text field below your title
14. Click on the tab "Motions Paths" and select "Heartbeat"
15. Click again on the first slide in the "Slides" pane
16. Press  to start the presentation

On my system (Debian Testing AMD64, LO Version: 4.2.0.0.beta1
Build ID: f4ca7b35f580827ad2c69ea6d29f7c9b48ebbac7 with installed 
Germanophone lang- as well as helppack), my systems nearly freezes, 
before LO starts the presentation ... :(
Can someone confirm this behaviour?

As a side note: For some reason, I cannot see the text from the text 
field (only the title text), when I run the presentation and have to 
click feeled 10 times (or press space) to reach the end of the 
presentation ... :(
Thanks for testing
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[Libreoffice-qa] Missing symbols in squares in "Bullets and Numbering" dialog on "Image" tab

2013-12-01 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello @ll,
maybe this is a problem on my system, but if I open the above 
mentioned dialog, I can only see squares with lines instead of 
pictures and lines from the sixth square for a couple of rows ... :(

Steps to reproduce:
1. Open Writer or Impress
2. Go to "Format – Bullets and Numbering..."
3. Look at the right of the second row. You will see an square with 
only adumbrated grey lines, but no symbol in front of it
4. Scroll down and there are a couple of lines following without a 
symbol ... :(

Could someone confirm this?
LO: Version: 4.2.0.0.beta1 Build ID: 
f4ca7b35f580827ad2c69ea6d29f7c9b48ebbac7 (parallel installed with 
Germanophone lang- as well as helppack)
OS: Debian Testing AMD64

Thanks for testing
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345

2013-12-01 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
> ...
> If there's no obvious winner after a few days, we can take a vote.

Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P

Voting Rules:
* Please vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting)
* Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use
* If there's no clear winner, we can have a run-off

> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
> * blo
> * lbz
> * libo
> * lo
> * lob
> * lobz

Thanks,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Missing symbols in squares in "Bullets and Numbering" dialog on "Image" tab

2013-12-01 Thread Pedro
Hi Thomas


Thomas Hackert wrote
> if I open the above 
> mentioned dialog, I can only see squares with lines instead of 
> pictures and lines from the sixth square for a couple of rows ... :(
> 
> Steps to reproduce:
> 1. Open Writer or Impress
> 2. Go to "Format – Bullets and Numbering..."
> 3. Look at the right of the second row. You will see an square with 
> only adumbrated grey lines, but no symbol in front of it
> 4. Scroll down and there are a couple of lines following without a 
> symbol ... :(

You are referring to the "Graphics" tab in the "Bullets and Numbering"
dialog (I know it was a translation from German, this is just to make it
more accurate)

I can confirm that there are no bullets after the 7th style. I confirmed
this using 4.2 Alpha, 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 under Windows XP Pro x86 SP3 en_US.
This is a regression from the 4.0 branch.

Under Windows the reason for this is that the folder
%appdata%/LibreOffice/4/user/gallery does NOT contain a "bullets" sub-folder
which should contain the png images.

This is NOT a problem with a corrupted Profile. The files simply aren't
there. They are not added to the folder even if you create a new Profile.

Hope this helps ;)



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Missing symbols in squares in "Bullets and Numbering" dialog on "Image" tab

2013-12-01 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Pedro, *,
On Sonntag, 1. Dezember 2013 19:43 Pedro wrote:
> Thomas Hackert wrote
>> if I open the above
>> mentioned dialog, I can only see squares with lines instead of
>> pictures and lines from the sixth square for a couple of rows ...
>> :(
>> 
>> Steps to reproduce:
>> 1. Open Writer or Impress
>> 2. Go to "Format – Bullets and Numbering..."
>> 3. Look at the right of the second row. You will see an square
>> with only adumbrated grey lines, but no symbol in front of it
>> 4. Scroll down and there are a couple of lines following without
>> a symbol ... :(
> 
> You are referring to the "Graphics" tab in the "Bullets and
> Numbering" dialog (I know it was a translation from German, this
> is just to make it more accurate)

yes and no ... I am referring to the Graphics tab, but somehow 
forgot to mention it, sorry ... :(

> I can confirm that there are no bullets after the 7th style. I
> confirmed this using 4.2 Alpha, 4.1.3 and 4.1.4 under Windows XP
> Pro x86 SP3 en_US. This is a regression from the 4.0 branch.

Now that you mentioned 4.1.3, I have looked at it as well. And yes, 
you are right. They are missing there as well ... :(

> Under Windows the reason for this is that the folder
> %appdata%/LibreOffice/4/user/gallery does NOT contain a "bullets"
> sub-folder which should contain the png images.

O.K.

> This is NOT a problem with a corrupted Profile. The files simply
> aren't there. They are not added to the folder even if you create
> a new Profile.

O.K.

> Hope this helps ;)

Do you by any chance know, if it is already reported to bugzilla? If 
not, I will do it tomorrow (enough translation and testing today ... 
;) ), unless you have the time and energy to do it ... ;)
Thanks for confirming and have a nice evening
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

2013-12-01 Thread bfoman
Hi!
Apart from availability of daily builds is it possible to increase the
storage space available for tinderbox builds? Seems currently only 14 latest
builds of each branch are available (when all works like expected). This
doesn't allow to think about building any regression/bisect script/tool
(based on SI-GUI?) for Windows, which would download a build, install it,
ask a question, save answer, download earlier build if needed etc. This
would allow to get more people without technical knowledge into regression
testing if few simple steps. Latest poll results are very encouraging,
people are willing to help.
Best regards.  



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345

2013-12-01 Thread Florian Reisinger
Hi,

I am voting for "libo" only ;)

Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger

> Am 01.12.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Robinson Tryon :
> 
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
>  wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
>> ...
>> If there's no obvious winner after a few days, we can take a vote.
> 
> Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P
> 
> Voting Rules:
> * Please vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting)
> * Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use
> * If there's no clear winner, we can have a run-off
> 
>> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
>> * blo
>> * lbz
>> * libo
>> * lo
>> * lob
>> * lobz
> 
> Thanks,
> --R
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345

2013-12-01 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Robinson, *,
On Sonntag, 1. Dezember 2013 19:31 Robinson Tryon wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
>  wrote:
[new abbreviation for bugs.libreoffice.org]
> Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P
> 
> Voting Rules:
> * Please vote for as many of the listed choices as you like
> (Approval Voting) * Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for
> future use * If there's no clear winner, we can have a run-off
> 
>> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
>> * blo

+1

Have a nice evening
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345

2013-12-01 Thread V Stuart Foote
Robinson Tryon 
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:31 PM

>Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P
>
>Voting Rules:
>* Please vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting)
>* Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use
>* If there's no clear winner, we can have a run-off

>> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
* blo -- No
* lbz -- Yes
* libo -- No
* lo -- No
* lob -- No
* lobz  -- Yes

Stuart
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

2013-12-01 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:00 PM, bfoman  wrote:
> Hi!
> Apart from availability of daily builds is it possible to increase the
> storage space available for tinderbox builds? Seems currently only 14 latest
> builds of each branch are available (when all works like expected). This
> doesn't allow to think about building any regression/bisect script/tool
> (based on SI-GUI?) for Windows, which would download a build, install it,
> ask a question, save answer, download earlier build if needed etc.

that is what bibisect repo are for.
downloading 100 to 200MB per iteration is not a nice solution for anyone.
bibsect repo are bigger to start with.. so the initial setup is
slower... but after that the bisection can be done completely offline
I do not have data for windows.. but for mac, I'm putting the
finishing touch to a bibisect repo for the 4-2 series... which contain
so far 2559 builds for 5GB.


iow such nice gui wrapper should really use a bibisect repo under the
cover rather than downloading daily builds...

of course windows pose 'special' challenge... a bibisect repo for
windows should not accumulate msi fiels as they do not lend themself
well to compression in git
but SI-GUI could probably be tauch to use a 'pre-installed' version...
doing wahtever tweak windows need in the cover to fake a 'real'
install when one switch from one version to the other in the bibisect
repo

Norbert
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Tinderbox builds

2013-12-01 Thread bfoman
Norbert Thiebaud wrote
> that is what bibisect repo are for.
> downloading 100 to 200MB per iteration is not a nice solution for anyone.
> bibsect repo are bigger to start with.. so the initial setup is
> slower... but after that the bisection can be done completely offline
> I do not have data for windows.. but for mac, I'm putting the
> finishing touch to a bibisect repo for the 4-2 series... which contain
> so far 2559 builds for 5GB.

Hi!
I rechecked your post in
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Libreoffice-qa-bibisect-fro-windows-tp4002219.html,
so is it possible to relaunch your project anytime soon?
Best regards.



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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345

2013-12-01 Thread mariosv
El 01/12/13 19:32, Robinson Tryon [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] 
escribió:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
...
>  > Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
>  > * blo
>  > * lbz
>  > * libo
>  > * lo
>  > * lob
>  > * lobz
>
> Thanks,
> --R

+1 lobz

Miguel Ángel.





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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Annouce: Bibisect for MACOSX

2013-12-01 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Norbert Thiebaud  wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
>  wrote:
>>
>> I believe that the relationship would be 1 tb building into 1 bibisect
>> repo;
>
> Nope.
> I intend to have the TDF tb box build a daily 'for bibisect' build
> using a common config
> once a day but at different time of the day...

You say "the TDF tb box" -- do you mean multiple boxes?

> They will upload their install-dir (tar.gz) in a staging area in tdf infra
> and these will be stitched together later...

automatically, I hope? The QA Team has been expecting that daily
builds would be available promptly in bibisect repos.

> since they will not upload at the same speed and shit can happen... it
> is safer to stage first... so that the stitching can be tweaked.
> it is easier to script rebuilding a bibisect in part of in full using
> the tar.gz of the build rather than /insert/delete/move some commit
> after the fact

Interesting -- I'd assume that it would be roughly as easy to work
with the tarballs as with the commits in the repo. Storing all of
those builds individually might take a bit of space, but if we can
manage it, I don't see a reason not to hang on to the source tarballs.

> This will also allow.. in case a particular patch made the thing
> unbuildable for a while... to retrospectively re-build that section of
> the history using a 'patched' version at each step to avoid the the
> bug the prevented the build to start with...

When you say "re-build," if we're re-building from source, how would
the tarballs help us?

> I have done this on master covering the 4-2 dev period... where some
> patches broke the mac build for weeks at the time (on 10.6). the fixes
> where often trivial so a simple git check-out + fix of a single file
> was enough to still build... hence avoiding a 500+ commit range
> without builds...

I agree that we should avoid large commit ranges without builds.

My hope with bibisect is that we'll prevent any of the primary builds
from breaking "for weeks at a time." I think that there are enough
Win/Mac/Linux people on the QA Team willing to test against the daily
bibisect repos that we'll notice if the build breaks for even a couple
of days.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345

2013-12-01 Thread Joren DC
Robinson Tryon schreef op 1/12/13 19:31:
> Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P Voting Rules: * Please
> vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting) *
> Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use * If there's no
> clear winner, we can have a run-off
>> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
>> * blo
No
>> * lbz
Yes
>> * libo
Yes
>> * lo
No
>> * lob
Yes
>> * lobz
Yes

If I only can make 1 vote: libo

Kind regards,
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345

2013-12-01 Thread Jochen Schiffers

Hi Rob,

Am 01.12.2013 19:31, schrieb Robinson Tryon:
Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P Voting Rules: * Please 
vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting) * 
Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use * If there's no 
clear winner, we can have a run-off

I am voting for "libo"

Regards

Jochen
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Missing symbols in squares in "Bullets and Numbering" dialog on "Image" tab

2013-12-01 Thread Pedro
Hi Thomas, all


Thomas Hackert wrote
>> You are referring to the "Graphics" tab in the "Bullets and
>> Numbering" dialog (I know it was a translation from German, this
>> is just to make it more accurate)
> 
> yes and no ... I am referring to the Graphics tab, but somehow 
> forgot to mention it, sorry ... :(

You did not forget. You called it "Image" tab (that is what I was referring
to). See the Subject of the email ;)


Thomas Hackert wrote
> Do you by any chance know, if it is already reported to bugzilla? If 
> not, I will do it tomorrow (enough translation and testing today ... 
> ;) ), unless you have the time and energy to do it ... ;)

I did some searches in bugzilla and couldn't find any related reported.
No, I do not have the energy on a Sunday night :) 
Please let me know when you report it so that I can confirm it ;)

Cheers,
Pedro



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[Libreoffice-qa] QA Call Reminder: Monday @ 19:30 UTC

2013-12-01 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

The QA Team is having another one of our marvelous bi-weekly calls
tomorrow. All are welcome!

The agendum for the meeting and information on how to join via your
phone or browser are available here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/December_02

If you're new to the project and would like to get more involved, we'd
love to see you on the call!

Cheers,
--R
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Annouce: Bibisect for MACOSX

2013-12-01 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
 wrote:
>
> You say "the TDF tb box" -- do you mean multiple boxes?

yes
>
>> They will upload their install-dir (tar.gz) in a staging area in tdf infra
>> and these will be stitched together later...
>
> automatically, I hope? The QA Team has been expecting that daily
> builds would be available promptly in bibisect repos.

semi-automatically... that is automatically but with human
supervision... has mishap need to be caugh and fixed early

I imagine that there would be a log of a few days... maybe a week
between the head of a branch and the bibisect repo..
if for no other reason that git gc does a better job if it has many
loose object to compact, compression wise
and doing git gcc --aggressive to balance that once in a while is
prohibitively expensive... and as the repo become build, won;t even
run on most machines

>
>
> Interesting -- I'd assume that it would be roughly as easy to work
> with the tarballs as with the commits in the repo. Storing all of
> those builds individually might take a bit of space, but if we can
> manage it, I don't see a reason not to hang on to the source tarballs.

we can't..  2500 build for the 4-2 dev period... mutliplied by 200MB
taht is 500GB for Mac alone
and that is just for the period May-December 2013
that is 5GB in a bibisect repo...

>
>> This will also allow.. in case a particular patch made the thing
>> unbuildable for a while... to retrospectively re-build that section of
>> the history using a 'patched' version at each step to avoid the the
>> bug the prevented the build to start with...
>
> When you say "re-build," if we're re-building from source, how would
> the tarballs help us?

because I can rebuild _some_ missing section... and stich the rest
using the tarball
I've been doing that dance for the past 3 weeks building the Mac bibisect

>
>
> My hope with bibisect is that we'll prevent any of the primary builds
> from breaking "for weeks at a time." I think that there are enough
> Win/Mac/Linux people on the QA Team willing to test against the daily
> bibisect repos that we'll notice if the build breaks for even a couple
> of days.

no it won't. we already have tinderbox that send email when stuff
breaks.. but sometimes some tb are out-of-order, sometimes stuff get
overlooked, sometimes shit happens etc...

iow bibisect will not help us to detect that something does not
build... sicne we build far more often than we aggregate bibisect
build...

Norbert
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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Missing symbols in squares in "Bullets and Numbering" dialog on "Image" tab

2013-12-01 Thread Thomas Hackert
Hello Pedro, *,
On Montag, 2. Dezember 2013 00:12 Pedro wrote:
> Thomas Hackert wrote
>>> You are referring to the "Graphics" tab in the "Bullets and
>>> Numbering" dialog (I know it was a translation from German, this
>>> is just to make it more accurate)
>> 
>> yes and no ... I am referring to the Graphics tab, but somehow
>> forgot to mention it, sorry ... :(
> 
> You did not forget. You called it "Image" tab (that is what I was
> referring to). See the Subject of the email ;)

ah, O.K. But why do you write "Graphics"? In my build it is called 
"Image", no matter, which UI language I choose ... ;)

> Thomas Hackert wrote
>> Do you by any chance know, if it is already reported to bugzilla?
>> If not, I will do it tomorrow (enough translation and testing
>> today ... ;) ), unless you have the time and energy to do it ...
>> ;)
> 
> I did some searches in bugzilla and couldn't find any related
> reported. No, I do not have the energy on a Sunday night :)

O.K. Understandable :)

> Please let me know when you report it so that I can confirm it ;)

It is https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72218 now ... ;)
Thanks for your answer and have a nice day
Thomas.

-- 
Never let someone who says it cannot be done interrupt the person 
who is doing it.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Bugzilla Migration: Abbreviation to replace fdo#12345

2013-12-01 Thread Samuel Mehrbrodt

I like libo# and lobz#

Am 01.12.2013 19:31, schrieb Robinson Tryon:

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
 wrote:

Hi all,

Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
...
If there's no obvious winner after a few days, we can take a vote.

Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P

Voting Rules:
* Please vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting)
* Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use
* If there's no clear winner, we can have a run-off


Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
* blo
* lbz
* libo
* lo
* lob
* lobz

Thanks,
--R
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