Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Crash, when undoing numbering of headers in a Writer template
Good morning Terrence, *, On Sonntag, 9. März 2014 20:22 Terrence Enger wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-09 at 19:36 +0100, Thomas Hackert wrote: >> I discovered a reproducible crash with Writer ... :( >> >> Steps to reproduce: >> 1. Download template from >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=59830 >> 2. Open Writer > > Whoops, I opened Start Center instead. I guess, this does not make any difference, if you open the test doc from there ... ;) >> 3. Open the downloaded template in Writer (06_minutes.ott) >> 4. Click "OK", when the dialog "Minutes types" opens > > I got a crash at this point. Assertion failure in > ImplDbgTestSolarMutex () at > /home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo4/vcl/source/app/dbggui.cxx:1624, > which reads > > assert(ImplGetSVData()->mpDefInst->CheckYieldMutex()); > > I attach terminal output of run and output from gdb on the core > file Could it be, that you have used a self-built version? And would you be so kind to test it with 4.2.2.1 as well, please? Do you get a crash there as well? And it would be nice, if you could give us/me some further infos like OS/architecture etc. ... ;) Thanks for testing Thomas. -- caterpallor, n.: The color you turn after finding half a grub in the fruit you're eating. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???
Hi Cor Cor Nouws wrote > However, there is a clear distinction between the pages named Fresh and > Stable. Doesn't that help? There is a clear separation (not distinction!) if you select from the menu. In any case, what does Fresh mean? I guess it means that it is from the Fresh branch (as opposed to the Ripe branch, like in fruit?) Even if this has some logic for people in the project, I could also expect that Fresh means the latest version released (as in Freshly pressed juice), in which case the next Fresh release will be 4.1.6... Most users will probably arrive to the Download page by pushing the Download button on the Home page and guess which version they are presented with??? The incoherence is that in the "not-so-visible" Release Notes it says: "is targeted for early adopters and private power users". Does it seem reasonable to think that first time users are willing to be early adopters or that they are power users??? Kind regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/4-2-1-is-a-Stable-version-tp4100538p4100696.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???
Hi Pedro, Pedro wrote (08-03-14 11:00) > > As long as Marketing is more important than Quality, this won't change. I appreciate your concern about messaging and perception of users. However, there is a clear distinction between the pages named Fresh and Stable. Doesn't that help? cheers, Cor -- Cor Nouws GPD key ID: 0xB13480A6 - 591A 30A7 36A0 CE3C 3D28 A038 E49D 7365 B134 80A6 - vrijwilliger http://nl.libreoffice.org - volunteer http://www.libreoffice.org - The Document Foundation Membership Committee Member signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] [libreoffice-website] Re: 4.2.1 is a Stable version???
Le Sun, 09 Mar 2014 21:07:12 +0100, Michael Stahl a écrit : > On 09/03/14 14:51, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > > Hi Pedro, > > > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 02:00:47AM -0800, Pedro wrote: > >> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ > >> "LibreOffice is available in the following stable versions: > >> 4.1.5 > >> 4.2.1 > >> " > > > > Since we are doing the "LibreOffice Fresh"/"LibreOffice Stable" > > thing on the website now, that is indeed misleading. As the > > contrast is against prerelease versions, I would suggest to maybe > > change that wording to "LibreOffice is available in the following > > finalized versions:". > > how about calling a released version ... "release"? > > as in "The following current LibreOffice releases are available:" or > "The most current available LibreOffice releases are:" or ... > > Just to be very clear : The Fresh vs. Stable naming scheme is not something I pulled out of nowhere, but was the result of a rather lengthy discussion. I happen to agree with that choice but I and others also welcome additions, changes, etc . to the text. At some point however we'll need to agree with something and stick with it too :-) Best, -- Charles-H. Schulz Co-founder, The Document Foundation, Kurfürstendamm 188, 10707 Berlin Gemeinnützige rechtsfähige Stiftung des bürgerlichen Rechts Legal details: http://www.documentfoundation.org/imprint Mobile Number: +33 (0)6 98 65 54 24. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???
On 09/03/14 14:51, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote: > Hi Pedro, > > On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 02:00:47AM -0800, Pedro wrote: >> http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ >> "LibreOffice is available in the following stable versions: >> 4.1.5 >> 4.2.1 >> " > > Since we are doing the "LibreOffice Fresh"/"LibreOffice Stable" thing on the > website now, that is indeed misleading. As the contrast is against prerelease > versions, I would suggest to maybe change that wording to "LibreOffice is > available in the following finalized versions:". how about calling a released version ... "release"? as in "The following current LibreOffice releases are available:" or "The most current available LibreOffice releases are:" or ... ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Crash, when undoing numbering of headers in a Writer template
On Sun, 2014-03-09 at 19:36 +0100, Thomas Hackert wrote: > Hi again, > I discovered a reproducible crash with Writer ... :( > > Steps to reproduce: > 1. Download template from > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=59830 > 2. Open Writer Whoops, I opened Start Center instead. > 3. Open the downloaded template in Writer (06_minutes.ott) > 4. Click "OK", when the dialog "Minutes types" opens I got a crash at this point. Assertion failure in ImplDbgTestSolarMutex () at /home/terry/lo_hacking/git/libo4/vcl/source/app/dbggui.cxx:1624, which reads assert(ImplGetSVData()->mpDefInst->CheckYieldMutex()); I attach terminal output of run and output from gdb on the core file Terry. terry@debian-wheezy:~$ $( cat ./lo_hacking/forrunning )/instdir/program/soffice --norestore -env:UserInstallation=file:///home/terry/lo_hacking/notes/bug_20140309a/userinstallation warn:tools.debug:4728:1:tools/source/debug/debug.cxx:1121: no DbgTestSolarMutex function set warn:tools.debug:4728:1:tools/source/debug/debug.cxx:1121: no DbgTestSolarMutex function set warn:tools.debug:4728:1:tools/source/debug/debug.cxx:1121: no DbgTestSolarMutex function set warn:tools.debug:4728:1:tools/source/debug/debug.cxx:1121: no DbgTestSolarMutex function set warn:sfx.dialog:4736:1:sfx2/source/dialog/filtergrouping.cxx:361: already have an element for WordPerfect warn:sfx.dialog:4736:1:sfx2/source/dialog/filtergrouping.cxx:361: already have an element for writerweb8_writer_template warn:sfx.dialog:4736:1:sfx2/source/dialog/filtergrouping.cxx:361: already have an element for writerglobal8 (soffice:4736): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `GtkAdjustment' to `GtkWindow' (soffice:4736): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `GtkAdjustment' to `GtkWidget' (soffice:4736): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.33.12+really2.32.4/./gobject/gsignal.c:2459: signal `focus-out-event' is invalid for instance `0x20a6630' (soffice:4736): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `GtkAdjustment' to `GtkWindow' (soffice:4736): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: invalid cast from `GtkAdjustment' to `GtkWidget' (soffice:4736): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: /tmp/buildd/glib2.0-2.33.12+really2.32.4/./gobject/gsignal.c:2459: signal `focus-out-event' is invalid for instance `0x216d650' warn:vcl:4736:1:vcl/generic/fontmanager/fontconfig.cxx:1040: no FC_FILE found, falling back to name search warn:vcl:4736:1:vcl/generic/fontmanager/fontconfig.cxx:1040: no FC_FILE found, falling back to name search warn:sfx.control:4736:1:sfx2/source/control/dispatch.cxx:1532: Childwindow slot missing: 10365 warn:sfx.control:4736:1:sfx2/source/control/dispatch.cxx:1532: Childwindow slot missing: 10365 warn:sfx.control:4736:1:sfx2/source/control/dispatch.cxx:1532: Childwindow slot missing: 10365 warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:192: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:192: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:192: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:541: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:192: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef warn:basic.sbx:4736:1:basic/source/sbx/sbxvalue.cxx:192: Not at Parent-Prop - otherwise CyclicRef
[Libreoffice-qa] Crash, when undoing numbering of headers in a Writer template
Hi again, I discovered a reproducible crash with Writer ... :( Steps to reproduce: 1. Download template from https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=59830 2. Open Writer 3. Open the downloaded template in Writer (06_minutes.ott) 4. Click "OK", when the dialog "Minutes types" opens 5. Click "OK" in the warning "Bookmark NextTopic is not defined!" 6. Go to " 9. Follow the steps from point 7 again 10. Press three times + LO immediately crashes ... :( Discovered with LO Version: 4.2.2.1 Build ID: 3be8cda0bddd8e430d8cda1ebfd581265cca5a0f with installed Germanophone lang- as well as helppack (but this crash also happens, if I change the UI language to English ... :( ) OS: Debian Testing i386 Can someone confirm this with a different OS/architecture? TIA and have a nice evening Thomas. -- Today's thrilling story has been brought to you by Mushies, the great new cereal that gets soggy even without milk or cream. Join us soon for more spectacular adventure starring... Tippy, the Wonder Dog! -- Bob & Ray ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???
Hi Björn Bjoern Michaelsen wrote > Since we are doing the "LibreOffice Fresh"/"LibreOffice Stable" thing on > the > website now, that is indeed misleading. As the contrast is against > prerelease > versions, I would suggest to maybe change that wording to "LibreOffice is > available in the following finalized versions:". +1 on the wording However Stable is not inappropriate (as opposed to Development) since the version is NOT unstable... It might crash now and then, but not more than any other version/software :) Bjoern Michaelsen wrote > But the QA list is the wrong place for this -- as it is about the website > and > should be discussed on that list accordingly. Actually this is not about the website. It is about the projects quality/coherence philosophy. I have two options: accept it or leave the mailing list/project. This is not in any way a threat/warning, it's a decision I have to make personally. Bjoern Michaelsen wrote > Finally, the tone of your mail is quite worrying and suggests separating > "us > vs. them". There are a lot of volunteers involved in this and you are not > winning them over to your point of view by offending them. Ultimately, the > new > website design has been available for review for a long time with active > calls > for feedback. Coming this late and then ranting about wording doesnt help > your > cause. There is no "us". I'm *not* a member of the QA team (or TDF), so this is my personal opinion as someone who worries about quality and is/was trying to contribute some time/knowledge. Again, in not a staff member so I usually only check QA and Users and even if I occasionally post on other mailing lists (where I am allowed) I don't feel that I have failed by not participating in that particular Website discussion (which was directed by a Marketing logic)... I wasn't offending anyone and I am/was also a volunteer. In any case, as you can see from the (lack of) replies, not many people agree with my point. So don't worry ;) Kind regards, Pedro -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/4-2-1-is-a-Stable-version-tp4100538p4100643.html Sent from the QA mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
Re: [Libreoffice-qa] 4.2.1 is a Stable version???
Hi Pedro, On Sat, Mar 08, 2014 at 02:00:47AM -0800, Pedro wrote: > http://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ > "LibreOffice is available in the following stable versions: > 4.1.5 > 4.2.1 > " Since we are doing the "LibreOffice Fresh"/"LibreOffice Stable" thing on the website now, that is indeed misleading. As the contrast is against prerelease versions, I would suggest to maybe change that wording to "LibreOffice is available in the following finalized versions:". But the QA list is the wrong place for this -- as it is about the website and should be discussed on that list accordingly. Finally, the tone of your mail is quite worrying and suggests separating "us vs. them". There are a lot of volunteers involved in this and you are not winning them over to your point of view by offending them. Ultimately, the new website design has been available for review for a long time with active calls for feedback. Coming this late and then ranting about wording doesnt help your cause. Anyway, please continue on the website mailing list. Best, Bjoern ___ List Name: Libreoffice-qa mailing list Mail address: Libreoffice-qa@lists.freedesktop.org Change settings: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-qa Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice-qa/
