Re: [Libreoffice-qa] retest ping to UNCONFIRMED bugs older than 6 months

2014-11-03 Thread Tommy

On Sun, 02 Nov 2014 06:49:35 +0100, Tommy  wrote:

once 4.2.7 and 4.3.3 are now available, I think we could run the "please  
retest" automated message to UNCONFIRMED bugs older than 6 months.


actually there's 94 out of them. see list:
http://snipurl.com/29eckcc


let's see what's the feedback ratio and then decide if doing the same on  
older NEW bugs (excluding easy hacks as already discussed in the mailing  
list(




or maybe we could ping older than 100 days bug from this list (193 bugs):
http://snipurl.com/29ejxgd


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[Libreoffice-qa] Unconfirmed jump - sorry!

2014-11-03 Thread Joel Madero
Hi All,

So I just booted about 50 bugs over to UNCONFIRMED so that list has
jumped. I'm going through the rest of the list of about 280 more bugs -
so it may climb some more. Good news isour REOPENED count is
dropping and now is reflecting more of what it's supposed to reflect
(bug assigned to a developer who claimed they had fixed the bug but user
still seeing it...). Like I said, it'll likely jump another 200 or so in
the coming weeks.


Best,
Joel
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[Libreoffice-qa] Reminder: QA Meeting on Wednesday (See updated time re: Daylight Savings)

2014-11-03 Thread Robinson Tryon
Hi all,

Our next QA meeting will be on Wednesday. I believe that most
countries have switched back from daylight savings time, so the
meeting will be held at 18:30UTC, which (for most of you) should be
the same local time as our previous meeting. Check here to be sure:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?hour=18&min=30&sec=0&day=05&month=11&year=2014

Link to agenda is here:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2014/November_05

I'll give a brief summary of our Bug-Triaging Bee that was held at the
University of Washington, and give an update on the Bugzilla
Migration.

Please bring any special bugs or questions to the meeting, as well as
any updates/QA work you've been involved with lately.

I hope to see you all there!

Best,
--R

P.S. UNCONFIRMED bug count is down to 658! You guys are doing an amazing job!
Try your hand at bibisecting: We've got 75 open bugs tagged with
'bibisectRequest':
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/HowToBibisect#Finding_bugs_needing_bibisect

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[Libreoffice-qa] FOSDEM Call for Paper

2014-11-03 Thread Italo Vignoli
FOSDEM 15 will be held at the ULB Campus Solbosch on Saturday, January
31, and Sunday, February 1st, 2015.

Open document editors are coming again to FOSDEM with a shared devroom
which gives every project in this area a chance to present ODF related
developments and innovations. The devroom is jointly organized by Apache
OpenOffice and LibreOffice.

We invite submission of talks for the Open Document Editors devroom, to
be held on Saturday, January 31, from 10AM to 6PM.

Length of talks should be limited to 20 minutes, as we would like to
have questions after each presentation, and to fit as many presenters as
possible in the schedule. Exceptions must be explicitly requested and
justified.

Technical talks (code, extensions, localization, QA, tools and adoption
related cases) about open document editors or the ODF document format
are welcome.

Submissions must be done by the speakers using the Pentabarf system:
https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM15

While filing your proposal, please provide the title of your talk, a
short abstract (one or two paragraphs), some information about yourself
(name, bio and photo, but please do remember that your profile might be
already stored at Pentabarf) and specify what topic (Apache OpenOffice,
LibreOffice, other ODF editors, ODF in general...) your talk is about.

You do not need to create a new account if you already have one. If the
password has been lost, you can easily recover it.

The deadline is Sunday, December 14, 2014. Accepted speakers will be
notified by December 28, 2014.

You can send any questions to the devroom mailing list:
open-document-devr...@lists.fosdem.org


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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] open calc / sorting issues ...

2014-11-03 Thread Jean-Baptiste Faure
Hi,

Le 03/11/2014 13:36, Michael Meeks a écrit :
> 
> On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 19:56 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
>> Le 23/10/2014 17:20, Michael Meeks a écrit :
>>> [...]
>>> * Pending Action Items:
>>> + get a clear use-case & description of what doesn't work vs. master 
>>> wrt. Calc sorting (JBF)
>>
>> First draft here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85490
> 
>   So - I don't grok that bug; I was expecting a tracker bug; are you
> trying to use 'see also' for that ? rather than 'depends on' ? the "see
> also" is a zoo that doesn't solve the problem here I think.

I am trying to summarize the different use-cases I can find related to
sorting range of cells with references. Many things are not clear with
the collection of bugs you can find in bugzilla with the keyword "sort".
For many bugs reported in BZ, it is not clear, for me, if the bug is
really in Calc or between the chair and the keyboard.
We are missing a clear description of all use-cases that Calc is able to
handle and, for each use-case, how Calc should do sorting. In other
words we are missing the specifications of sorting.

So I am working on a spreadsheet gathering the use-cases I am able to
describe. Each use-case has data, description, how to test, what is
expected and how it works in master, 4.3.4.0.0+, 4.2.6.3, 4.1.6.2 and
4.0.6.2. The spreadsheet is not finished yet but, at the moment, I have
at least 2 clear conclusions:

1/ the issue with the use-case "bank account" (bugs 81633 and 85215) is
fixed in 4.3.4.0.0+ and 4.4.0.0.alpha1, except for the fact that in 4.3
the legacy behavior is obtained with the default value of option
UpdateReferenceOnSort, when in 4.4 you have to change it to get back the
legacy behavior.

2/ with 4.3, it is not possible to make all tests of the spreadsheet
working, without changing the option, which implies that you need to
restart LO each time you need to change the value of the option. It is
not a user experience as good as we expect.

I hope to be able to attach the spreadsheet to the metabug shortly.

Best regards.
JBF

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[Libreoffice-qa] open calc / sorting issues ...

2014-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks

On Mon, 2014-10-27 at 19:56 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> Le 23/10/2014 17:20, Michael Meeks a écrit :
> > [...]
> > * Pending Action Items:
> > + get a clear use-case & description of what doesn't work vs. master 
> > wrt. Calc sorting (JBF)
> 
> First draft here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85490

So - I don't grok that bug; I was expecting a tracker bug; are you
trying to use 'see also' for that ? rather than 'depends on' ? the "see
also" is a zoo that doesn't solve the problem here I think.

I spent a few minutes poking around at this stuff - and I couldn't see
a single place where I can see: "are these bugs fixed on master" ?

There is a request for us to do an accelerated 4.3.x release - which
make some sense here I guess; but if we are -still- unsure about whether
the bugs are fixed - its ~impossible to make a sensible decision there;
and not knowing delays our ability to trigger any builds.

A clear, tracker bug - perhaps ignoring the "default on master / for
4.4" issue that is punted to UX - and/or summary of any of the live
issues that remains open that a busy ESC member can read quickly -
rather than having to follow a dozen irate comments would be great ! =)

"Is the problem fixed for 4.3.x ?"

I spent 10x minutes, and picked a commit, but I see no clear answer
there.

Thanks,

Michael.

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call ...

2014-11-03 Thread Michael Meeks

On Sun, 2014-11-02 at 22:53 +0100, Thorsten Behrens wrote:
> Michael Meeks wrote:
> > + apparently a fiction that as of today there is idle TDF owned 
> > hardware.
>
> No idea why this is relevant here, but for the record: there is a
> number of donated / sponsored boxes with TDF, that for various
> hysterical reasons are not under infra control. 3-4 of them are mostly
> idle or powered down.

Interesting; so the boxes are not paid for by TDF, but are donated by
others ? As such, of course I'd imagine that they're under the control
of whomever set them up - but if we can kick them into life that'd be
great of course: is there an up-to-date list ?

ATB,

Michael.
 
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