Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-10-21

2015-10-28 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 06:54:47PM +0100, Jan Holesovsky wrote:
> * Present: Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Tomaz, Stuart
> 
> * UI changes integrated the last week:
> 
> + Enable auto-numbering by default reverted for now (Samuel)
> + First/last button in the Calc tab bar (Tomaž)
> + NotebookBar proof-of-concept pushed (Kendy)
> + alt-x support to math (Justin)
> + more 32px Breeze icons (Andreas)
> + Appearance -> Application Colors (Adolfo)
> + initial "Home" NotebookBar tab proof-of-concept (Samuel)
> + make sidebar toolboxs item order RTL sensitive (Bubli)

+ proper scrollwheel handling in TabBar/Sidebar (Bjoern)
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[Libreoffice-qa] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-10-21

2015-10-28 Thread Jan Holesovsky
* Present: Heiko, Jay, Kendy, Tomaz, Stuart

* UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Enable auto-numbering by default reverted for now (Samuel)
+ First/last button in the Calc tab bar (Tomaž)
+ NotebookBar proof-of-concept pushed (Kendy)
+ alt-x support to math (Justin)
+ more 32px Breeze icons (Andreas)
+ Appearance -> Application Colors (Adolfo)
+ initial "Home" NotebookBar tab proof-of-concept (Samuel)
+ make sidebar toolboxs item order RTL sensitive (Bubli)

* Table styles (Kendy)
 
+ would be good to have a Friday session about that (Kendy)
+ already collected stuff in a doc (Jay)
+ 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FPkf9fn79dXJ5tHpc-meMYxaQpj3nV5sEN6u9HOo2GQ/edit?usp=sharing
+ 9th October, 1:00pm CEST / 11:00am UTC (Kendy)
+ more discussion about the proposal (Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
+ afraid of too many elements there (Heiko)

+ what's the game plan there? (Jay)
+ ODF export first, then ODF import, then OOXML support (Kendy)
+ but cannot promise exact timeline (Kendy)

+ had the Friday session about this, useful to continue the discussion 
there (Jay/Heiko)
+ to define the general approach to the table propeties, style etc. - 
in the sidebar (Jay/Heiko/Kendy)
+ should we eg. remove the table toolbar (that appears when the cursor 
gets into a table, etc.)
+ where to put the table styles - to such a sidebar? to styles & 
formatting?
+ etc.

+ worked on the design during the meeting (Jay/Heiko)
+ reworked the dialog with an almost finished layout (for discussion 
with the community)

* Area Tab design session (Heiko/Jay)
 
+ Area Tab - https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94551
  
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gf7wqYszXnbrbzbyNlLKbJelMb20ssuimxfszcHP_wM/edit?usp=sharing
+ not published yet
 
* Dedicated Design team blog (Heiko)
 
+ redmine ticket: https://redmine.documentfoundation.org/issues/1505
+ pending on infra
 
* Bug discussions
 
+ none this week

* NotebookBar (Samuel)

+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/NotebookBar
+ screenshot - 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/f/f5/Notebookbar-writer.png
+ NotebookBar allows to create toolbars with glade (Samuel/Kendy)
+ full control over widgets in the topmost area, defined via a .ui file
+ an optional thing for users (Samuel)
+ menus + toolbars the default
+ now in master, but hidden via an env. variable (Kendy)

+ keep in mind the HIG (Heiko)
+ https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/ToolBar
+ mentions some future enhancements of toolbars that might be helpful 
here (Heiko)
+ eg. grouping
+ possible with Notebookbar
+ eg. 
http://docs.sencha.com/extjs/4.0.7/#!/example/toolbar/toolbars.html ?

   + tabs make toolbars context depending which is against the use case of 
toolbars (Heiko)
   + strucutring the toolbar with labeled groups and perhaps different 
sized buttons make sense
   + the tabs from the current notebookbar should stay a menubar (Heiko)

* Help updating (Kendy)
 
+ new patches, would be great to have a new release (Jay)
+ will do, this time really :-) (Kendy)
 
+ help-related meta bugs:
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=94016
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93580
+ wikihelp? (Jay)
+ help proposal
  
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MULCsm8gD-QPv-W1LbHBynnY0eD16Q6uXsrzpgfJdvQ/edit?usp=sharing
+ idea to use xml editor (Kendy)
+ steps needed:
+ hooks on help.libreoffice.org redirecting to editable page
+ per-user session - own git checkout
+ some way of editing - either the xml help or the xml <-> html 
mapping
+ commit creation in the git + push to gerrit
+ overall - like the idea to have some infra on top of the current 
help,
  easier than the entire editable wiki (Kendy)
 
* Icon Updates / Issues (Jay)

+ Should svgs be stored in repo and pngs created at build time (Samuel)
+ Fast svg import hack working (Tomaz)
 
+ still something wrong with inheritance (Jay)
+ Samuel will look at one of them
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93866
+ easiest solution: eg. for tango, during build concat tango + 
galaxy links.txt, and
  put to images_tango.zip
+ one shared links.txt is probably not possible (Jay/Samuel)
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91565
  tango - 
https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=115945
  galaxy - 
https://bug-attachments.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=119516

+ Icons not appearing in help viewer's web view
  

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Halloween BugHunting Session for 5.1 -- Advertise and Recruit!

2015-10-28 Thread Marc Paré

Hi Robinson,

Le 2015-10-27 12:08, Robinson Tryon a écrit :

Hi all,

As you all undoubtedly know by now, our 3-day BugHunting Session for
the alpha1 build of the 5.1 Release Series will be this Friday,
Saturday, and Sunday.

Each BugHunting Session is a great time for us to concentrate on
finding bugs in the alpha builds, and really polishing up the
development that's been taking place on LibreOffice's master branch.
It's also a great time for recruitment.

Given that the BugHunting Session happens to overlap with Halloween
this year, it's a great time for us to use some of that fun, spooky,
energy and invite people to join us. Bugzilla will have a banner, I'll
be writing a blog post shortly, and I invite all of you awesome folks
to help us spread the word about how much these testing times help out
the project.

Here's the link to the wiki:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugHunting_Session_5.1.0.0

Here's the post from the TDF blog:
https://blog.documentfoundation.org/2015/10/19/first-bug-hunting-session-for-libreoffice-5-1/

Think about what other places we should advertise!

We've already got a post on /r/libreoffice:
https://www.reddit.com/r/libreoffice/comments/3pnmkc/first_bug_hunting_session_for_libreoffice_51/


Thanks,
--R



I've updated the events banner ... have a look!

http://www.libreoffice.org/events/

Marc




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