Re: [Libreoffice-qa] UX bugzilla queries (was: minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-18)

2016-08-18 Thread jan iversen 
I am not completly sure what this is about.

But I hope you are aware, that we have a system in place, so that any bugs that 
get needsUXadvice added, get CC to the UXadvice list. 

Therefore you should already get all changes via that mail alias.

rgds
jan I.


> On 18 Aug 2016, at 19:02, Bjoern Michaelsen  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Heiko,
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 06:36:50PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
>> * UX Update (Heiko)
>>+ from: 
>> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/kendy-collabora-com-Minutes-of-ESC-call-2016-08-11-tp4190974p4190988.html
>>+ ux-advice: keep it, because many bugs are not easy to file against 
>> a certain component
>>+ tracking of needsux: sure, can do that; but many people may 
>> understand enhancements similar to ux, which needs to get covered (or better 
>> we restrict our trust in the numbers)
>>+ no semantic difference between "component:LibreOffice 
>> keyword:needsUXeval" and "component:ux-advise" (Bjoern)
>>+ introduced keyword, to allow component linked (Heiko)
>>+ component for newcomers (Heiko)
>>+ personally like to keep both (Heiko)
>>+ 350 and 150 in each bucket (Bjoern)
>>+ component:LibreOffice is the catch-all (Bjoern)
>>+ watch compoment for mailing list? (Heiko)
>>+ get a email for every bug change and filter (Thorsten)
>>+ ML create false impression there might be a discussion (Thorsten)
>>+ actual discussion should happen (Eike)
>>+ RSS Feed for query: 
>> https://www.bugzilla.org/features/#buglist-formats (Jan-Marek)
>> AI  + move component:ux-advise to component:LibreOffice keyword:UX as 
>> ninja-edit (Robinson)
>>+ get checkbox for bugzilla (Heiko)
>>+ we have 500 ux bugs, we dont need to make it much easier right now 
>> (Bjoern)
> 
> here is a query wrt. UX on bugzilla to get you started:
> 
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED_status=RESOLVED_status=VERIFIED_status=CLOSED_status=NEEDINFO_status=PLEASETEST=-7d=Now=needsUXEval%2C%20_type=allwords_id=628531=LibreOffice_format=advanced=---
> (unresolved bugs with keyword:needsUXeval touched in the last 7 days)
> 
> you can modify and tweak this with the "edit search" button. Also note the 
> XML,
> CSV, RSS buttons which can be used in a skript. This:
> 
> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/contrib/dev-tools/tree/scripts
> 
> has a few examples of libreoffice scripts using bugzilla. As Thorsten noted,
> using:
> 
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
> 
> as an event stream and filtering that should also work.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Bjoern 
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[Libreoffice-qa] UX bugzilla queries (was: minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-18)

2016-08-18 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen 
Hi Heiko,

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 06:36:50PM +0200, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
> * UX Update (Heiko)
> + from: 
> http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/kendy-collabora-com-Minutes-of-ESC-call-2016-08-11-tp4190974p4190988.html
> + ux-advice: keep it, because many bugs are not easy to file against 
> a certain component
> + tracking of needsux: sure, can do that; but many people may 
> understand enhancements similar to ux, which needs to get covered (or better 
> we restrict our trust in the numbers)
> + no semantic difference between "component:LibreOffice 
> keyword:needsUXeval" and "component:ux-advise" (Bjoern)
> + introduced keyword, to allow component linked (Heiko)
> + component for newcomers (Heiko)
> + personally like to keep both (Heiko)
> + 350 and 150 in each bucket (Bjoern)
> + component:LibreOffice is the catch-all (Bjoern)
> + watch compoment for mailing list? (Heiko)
> + get a email for every bug change and filter (Thorsten)
> + ML create false impression there might be a discussion (Thorsten)
> + actual discussion should happen (Eike)
> + RSS Feed for query: 
> https://www.bugzilla.org/features/#buglist-formats (Jan-Marek)
> AI  + move component:ux-advise to component:LibreOffice keyword:UX as 
> ninja-edit (Robinson)
> + get checkbox for bugzilla (Heiko)
> + we have 500 ux bugs, we dont need to make it much easier right now 
> (Bjoern)

here is a query wrt. UX on bugzilla to get you started:

 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED_status=NEW_status=ASSIGNED_status=REOPENED_status=RESOLVED_status=VERIFIED_status=CLOSED_status=NEEDINFO_status=PLEASETEST=-7d=Now=needsUXEval%2C%20_type=allwords_id=628531=LibreOffice_format=advanced=---
 (unresolved bugs with keyword:needsUXeval touched in the last 7 days)

you can modify and tweak this with the "edit search" button. Also note the XML,
CSV, RSS buttons which can be used in a skript. This:

 https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/contrib/dev-tools/tree/scripts

has a few examples of libreoffice scripts using bugzilla. As Thorsten noted,
using:

 https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs

as an event stream and filtering that should also work.

Best,

Bjoern 
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[Libreoffice-qa] minutes of ESC call: 2016-08-18

2016-08-18 Thread Bjoern Michaelsen 
* Present: Norbert, Sophie, Armin, Stephan, Robinson, Christian, Thorsten, 
Jan-Marek, Bjoern, Eike, Miklos, Lionel, Olivier, Heiko

* Completed Action Items:
+ fixed with 62c4a8aacf76771e97a8da35096e6ad69a11979a - was: explain the 
reason why "make debug=T" doesnt build with symbols anymore
  / bring it to some ESC when Stephan is here (Stephan / Bjoern)
+ for breeze etc. originals, find out who needs commit access & enable them 
to do it (Heiko)
+ Breeze & co. originals in git should be done 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/kendy-collabora-com-Minutes-of-ESC-call-2016-08-11-tp4190974p4190988.html
+ approve https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27028/ and
  https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/27857/ (Cloph)

* Pending Action Items:
+ poke at MSDN licenses (Michael)
[ waiting for a response on new process, on holiday ? ]
+ investigate a cron job that queries & auto-merges (Norbert)
[ the solution proposed by David - using his query & a JSON script
  to refine it - will work - needs a bit more python (Norbert) ]
+ tweak UI and get LiveConnect API key / build case for board (Christian)
   + still need to get API key, rest is done
+ attempt to re-build a recent gstreamer 1.0 / core spec file
  on our CentOS6 base (tdf#94508) (Christian)
+ Program committee to work on the Conf. program (Kendy, Thorsten, Italo, 
Marina)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ no release this week, rc1 last week rc2 next week (cloph)
+ all on track (cloph)
+ 5.1 → 5.1.6 rc1 Oct 4th
+ 5.2 → 5.2.1 rc2 next Tue (Aug 23rd)
+ 5.3 → 5.3.0 alpha 1 Oct 18th
+ Android & iOS Remote

* LibreOffice Conference in Brno (Kendy)
   + kendy away, anyone else?
   + shm_get: see ya there
   + erAck: prep slides!

* Membership Committee plug (Michael)
+ Please send nominations and self-nominations via e-mail to
  electi...@documentfoundation.org (which reaches the Board of
  Directors in private) and also (!) to
  board-disc...@documentfoundation.org (which is a public mailing
  list). We kindly ask nominees who would like to stand for
  elections to provide a statement of up to 75 words on their
  candidacy as continuous text (so no bullet lists or multiple
  paragraphs). In addition, please also provide your full name,
  e-mail address and your corporate affiliation, if any, and
  please announce that you will provide information on all future
  changes as soon as possible.
+ tooling uses git & is user-friendly for devs.

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Help page for doc classification in.
   -> vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/swriter/classificationbar.xhp
+ Preparing help page for CMIS setup and usage
   -> Found CMIS access very slow in cmis.alfresco.com/cmisatom
   -> will install Alfresco community in laptop to study check-in/check-out 
real case
+ Writer Guide book under review by Jean Weber
+ Getting Started 5.2 open for update
   -> Community slow to jump in (vacations?).
+ Bjoern: blocking on something from dev/infra?
 + infra to put link for Q for 5.3, not urgent (askbot or something 
else)

* GSoC 2016 (Thorsten)
+ Next deadline is August 23rd 19:00 UTC for students to submit their work
+ Mentors then review, final deadline for mentor eval is August 29th
+ reminder - blogging at a minimum helps docs / QA teams etc.
+ !!! soft pen-down next Monday (15th), on 23rd deliver & package
+ to be frozen and delivered after that
+ important that the students deliver that on time, otherwise they'll 
be failed
+ 6 students attending the Conference
+ no news, make students document/blog wildly (Thorsten)

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ from: 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/kendy-collabora-com-Minutes-of-ESC-call-2016-08-11-tp4190974p4190988.html
+ ux-advice: keep it, because many bugs are not easy to file against a 
certain component
+ tracking of needsux: sure, can do that; but many people may 
understand enhancements similar to ux, which needs to get covered (or better we 
restrict our trust in the numbers)
+ no semantic difference between "component:LibreOffice 
keyword:needsUXeval" and "component:ux-advise" (Bjoern)
+ introduced keyword, to allow component linked (Heiko)
+ component for newcomers (Heiko)
+ personally like to keep both (Heiko)
+ 350 and 150 in each bucket (Bjoern)
+ component:LibreOffice is the catch-all (Bjoern)
+ watch compoment for mailing list? (Heiko)
+ get a email for every bug change and filter (Thorsten)
+ ML create false impression there might be a discussion (Thorsten)
+ actual discussion should happen (Eike)
+ RSS Feed for query: 
https://www.bugzilla.org/features/#buglist-formats (Jan-Marek)
AI  + move component:ux-advise to component:LibreOffice keyword:UX as 
ninja-edit

Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Does LibreOffice run on El Capitan (Mac)?

2016-08-18 Thread Robinson Tryon 
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 8:02 AM, Steven Yanoff  wrote:
> Does LibreOffice run on El Capitan (OS X El Capitan on Mac)?

Hi Steven,

I'd suggest that you download the latest version of LibreOffice and try it out
https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/

> If it does, are there problems?  I am running the latest - El Capitan 10.11.6.

Have you experienced any issues running LibreOffice on OSX? If there
is an issue present, please check to see if it's been reported in the
bug tracker, and file a new bug if needed:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/

In fact, here's an older bug report about El Capitan that needs review
and re-testing:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93368

If you're interested in QA on OS X, that might be a good place to start!

Thanks,
--R

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Re: [Libreoffice-qa] Does LibreOffice run on El Capitan (Mac)?

2016-08-18 Thread Italo Vignoli 
On 17/08/2016 15:02, Steven Yanoff wrote:
> Does LibreOffice run on El Capitan (OS X El Capitan on Mac)?  If it does, are 
> there problems?  I am running the latest - El Capitan 10.11.6.

Yes, it works.

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[Libreoffice-qa] Does LibreOffice run on El Capitan (Mac)?

2016-08-18 Thread Steven Yanoff 
Does LibreOffice run on El Capitan (OS X El Capitan on Mac)?  If it does, are 
there problems?  I am running the latest - El Capitan 10.11.6.
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